FIBA ASIA Cup Qualifiers

[DAdmiral]

How about this strategy, make Boatwright play in MBPL for one year or 10 months. And make him do basketball clinics. After a year we can convert him to Local. Do this to 5 more imports then we definitely can compete for FIBA World cup championship.

That is actually an approach many countries have tried especially for their NP pool. Whether FIBA approves it or not is another topic
I think a model example of this is Abassi of Taipei. That's more the norm than Harris which circumstances are more the exception.

[DAdmiral]

This is more of approximate model of an exception for a player without parental connection to a citizen

If you can do this for 5 U16 African UAAP recruits , then by all means, this is a noble appeo as you're giving these 5 African teenagers a future with education

This approach is certainly more honest and less dodgy than tapping NBA or Div1 made player's who just happen to have distant entncity lineage, but no documentation of a parental connection to a Philippine citizen (ala Clarkson)

https://www.world-today-news.com/fiba-approved-abbasi-can-be-officially-regarded-as-a-welcome-news-for-the-local-chinese-mens-basketball-team-t1-league-basketball-sports-vision-sports-vision/

[zairex]

This is more of approximate model of an exception for a player without parental connection to a citizen

If you can do this for 5 U16 African UAAP recruits , then by all means, this is a noble appeo as you're giving these 5 African teenagers a future with education


https://www.world-today-news.com/fib...sports-vision/

Why try untested players when you can get a 25 to 30 yr old and get him converted to a local. No need to waste time and money on your strategy.

What Qatar and FIBA did can be used as like jurisprudence and basis for future application.

[deku_midoriya]

Why try untested players when you can get a 25 to 30 yr old and get him converted to a local. No need to waste time and money on your strategy.

What Qatar and FIBA did can be used as like jurisprudence and basis for future application.

yes, a precedent for future hosts... I don't think FIBA would give exemptions to Qatar if it were not hosting

[DAdmiral]

yes, a precedent for future hosts... I don't think FIBA would give exemptions to Qatar if it were not hosting

Exactly, approach of getting vets will only work if you're host and needing much needed talent to be a decent competitive team, both is not the situation of Gilas

[zairex]

yes, a precedent for future hosts... I don't think FIBA would give exemptions to Qatar if it were not hosting

They didn't extend that to us. Which makes it even more bias. Not for JB nor for Clarkson.

FIBA should make it clear that's the new rule that a hosting team will get.

[DAdmiral]

They didn't extend that to us. Which makes it even more bias. Not for JB nor for Clarkson.

FIBA should make it clear that's the new rule that a hosting team will get.

SBP actually tried get an exception for Clarkson, but aa clearly discussed below he did NOT meet any of primary requirements of Residency and Domestic play for exception , SBP didn't file for an exception for either Kouame or Brownlee. Hope you get the lesson learned here .

[zairex]

SBP actually tried get an exception for Clarkson, but aa clearly discussed below he did NOT meet any of primary requirements of Residency and Domestic play for exception , SBP didn't file for an exception for either Kouame or Brownlee. Hope you get the lesson learned here .

I am going circle with you.

I was talking to deku_midoriya not you.

[DAdmiral]

BTW there' is simple principle to note here , one cannot use an approval of others as basis for justification that there case should be approved as well. Why is this ? Cause each case is uniquely different, we don't really know all the details of each specific case .
in the case of Harris his case does not have any factors know that would disqualify him from an exception. He has residency and Domestic league play ( however short). FIBA guidelines has no minimum requirements for residency or domestic play. ( So he's not disqualified for exception), Clarkson on the other had is indeed disqualified for exception based on the primary basis for exception.

[Giannis34GOD]

Gilas still rank 34 after the 2nd window of Fiba Asia cup qualifiers

[DAdmiral]

People need to understand the difference between lineage to an entnicity with lineage to a nationality. 90 % of NBA players have lineage to an African entnicity, but it doesn't follow they all have documented connection to specific country made up of mostly African decent. In the same way most 2nd and 3rd generation Fil foreigners while they have entnicity lineage no longer have an acceptable standard of documentation to be connected to natural born Filipino or citizen.

Child to connection to a Philippine citizen is a measurable qualification standard , you either have verification or not, there is no in between or 1/4 or 1/8 Filipino stuff. That's irrelevant in today's world of significant movement of people

[DAdmiral]

Point below is very relevant limited to exceptions ,
not securing a Philippine passport in the 1st instance the reason being is Philippine laws and way passport are processed can reestablish the connection from ancestors as the case of many Fil foreigners who were able to process their passport despite initially not having a direct verifiable connection to a former Philippine citizen.

While there are workaround to get a Philippine passport for those who have distant lineage and no current connectuon offcially citezen the same can't be used for exception , as you cannot retroactively change past records , official record held in international Intelligence records shows that the subject has NO citizenship connection for a specified period ( from 2010 to 2024)

[DAdmiral]

Essentially what this means is any fil foreigner or foreign citizen who has failed to secire a passpoet before 16 years old has no alternative but to establish significant years of residency and domestic league play. starting from a young age , preferably as a minor , before turning 19 . The latter is basd on the exception is for a U16 cuttoff rule

[zairex]

BTW there' is simple principle to note here , one cannot use an approval of others as basis for justification that there case should be approved as well. Why is this ? Cause each case is uniquely different, we don't really know all the details of each specific case .
in the case of Harris his case does not have any factors know that would disqualify him from an exception. He has residency and Domestic league play ( however short). FIBA guidelines has no minimum requirements for residency or domestic play. ( So he's not disqualified for exception), Clarkson on the other had is indeed disqualified for exception based on the primary basis for exception.

Learn about jurisprudence

Again it's all about influence rather than common sense or fairness

[Giannis34GOD]

Essentially what this means is any fil foreigner or foreign citizen who has failed to secire a passpoet before 16 years old has no alternative but to establish significant years of residency and domestic league play. starting from a young age , preferably as a minor , before turning 19 . The latter is basd on the exception is for a U16 cuttoff rule

Correct... Actually many countries now doing this practice


Mohammed Gadiaga (Taiwan)- reside in Taiwan since 8 years old, granted his passport after 16.. become Fiba local eligible just last year

Mamadou Ndiaye (UAE) - Reside in Dubai at 2017, played many time in UAE national team either 5x5 or 3x3, played in various local leagues in UAE, granted his passport early 2022, became Fiba local eligible early this year

Khalid Abdel Gabbar (KSA) - Reside in Saudi since 2016, played many national team stint since 2017, played in various local leagues in KSA, granted his passport since 2017 (Naturalization in Saudi needs to convert to Islam) and now just granted FIBA local eligible yesterday...

Freddie Lish (Thailand) - Reside in Taiwan since 2014, played and stayed in Thailand for 8 years in any Thai league... Granted his local status in late 2022....

Brandon Jawato (Indonesia) - Reside in Indonesia since 2015, played numerous leagues in Indonesia either IBL or ABL, granted his passport and local status late 2020...


Actually even Joel Embiid can be local eligible for USA if they wanted too.. Embiid already reside in USA since 2014 since when he was drafted.. already have house residency and his child born there...