FIBA ASIA Cup Qualifiers

[DAdmiral]

Has Harris covered this qualifications

He actually has ( to a certain degree )
note 3rd factor is Others - can be connected to a citizen or others such as contributions to the growth of sport by holding camps


The guidelines specify no minimum number of years for both 1 Residdecy years and 2. Domestic leaque playing years

Clarkson meets zero of the factors especially 1 and 2 points which are the primary criteria guidelines for exception

[JAMSKIE]

Ganito nalang, let's just put it this way, I think we Filipinos find it hard to accept that a foreigner, with no blood ties to a certain country he wants to represent, will be declared as a local citizen of that country. That's precisely the case of Tyler Harris of Qatar. He is a total foreigner eh with no blood ties with Qatar. Yet he is considered by FIBA as a Qatari local player.

On the other hand, we have a Remy Martin whose mother is a natural born Filipino therefore he has blood ties with the Philippines, but he is considered by FIBA as a naturalized player.

I think it's no coincidence that our citizenship law recognizes jos sanguinis but not jos soli, because we Filipinos value blood ties that much.

I think other countries like China, South Korea, Japan, Israel, etc. value blood ties that much as well.

[Silent Killer]

Ganito nalang, let's just put it this way, I think we Filipinos find it hard to accept that a foreigner, with no blood ties to a certain country he wants to represent, will be declared as a local citizen of that country. That's precisely the case of Tyler Harris of Qatar. He is a total foreigner eh with no blood ties with Qatar. Yet he is considered by FIBA as a Qatari local player.

On the other hand, we have a Remy Martin whose mother is a natural born Filipino therefore he has blood ties with the Philippines, but he is considered by FIBA as a naturalized player.

I think it's no coincidence that our citizenship law recognizes jos sanguinis but not jos soli, because we Filipinos value blood ties that much.

I think other countries like China, South Korea, Japan, Israel, etc. value blood ties that much as well.

Naturalized prior to 16 or was born in japan. Played together in both 5x5 and 3x3

https://www.fiba.basketball/en/events/womens-olympic-basketball-tournament-paris-2024/news/mawuli-sister-act-aim-to-give-back-at-the-olympics

[zairex]

He actually has ( to a certain degree )
note 3rd factor is Others - can be connected to a citizen or others such as contributions to the growth of sport by holding camps


The guidelines specify no minimum number of years for both 1 Residdecy years and 2. Domestic leaque playing years

Clarkson meets zero of the factors especially 1 and 2 points which are the primary criteria guidelines for exception

How did he contributed by having a clinic. He also played for Uruguay, so he was not solely playing in Qatar for those years I mean Brownlee has been in this country collectively longer that Harris stay in Qatar. I know JB has also done so many clinic too.

I mean how do you define contributed to the growth. Did he made basketball so popular in Qatar. Did he serve Qatar for such a long time. Most of Naturalized players improve the chances of their countries to win .

[DAdmiral]

How did he contributed by having a clinic. He also played for Uruguay, so he was not solely playing in Qatar for those years I mean Brownlee has been in this country collectively longer that Harris stay in Qatar. I know JB has also done so many clinic too.

Well then SBP should a file for a case for Brownlee , which they haven't. So how can he get a approval for something that hasn't been applied

BTW according to report Haeris runs more than a clinic but an academy.

oh Jasmike , so have they filed a case for Remy?
FIBA has made no assessment for exemption for Remy cause no case was filed

[zairex]

Well then SBP should a file for a case for Brownlee , which they haven't. So how can he get a approval for something that hasn't been applied

BTW according to report Haeris runs more than a clinic but an academy.

oh Jasmike , so have they filed a case for Remy?
FIBA has made assessment for exemption for Remy cause no case was filed

Any links on your info in Harris Academy. Did he build a Gym or his he the head of it?

Again not here to make a case for JB. But to know how did Harris satisfied the requirements

[DAdmiral]

Any links on your info

That's the thing there is no official communication thst they filed a case for Remy or Brownlee absence of a confirmation means hasn't been applied , why in the world would anyone assume the opposite thst a case has been filed , thsts illogical

it was you who included why Brownlee should be considered then

[zairex]

That's the thing there is no official communication thst they filed a case for Remy or Brownlee absence of a confirmation means hasn't been applied , why in the world would anyone assume the opposite thst a case has been filed , thsts illogical

it was you who included why Brownlee should be considered then

It's not illogical to assume that Brownlee will file to be recognized as local if that was available in the first place, especially backed by SMC will do everything to make that happen. They want to make our NT stronger as they are Bank rolling it.


Again if it was on the table


I only mention JB for comparison purposes.

Again the question I have is how did Tyler satisfy those requirements?

[deku_midoriya]

That's the thing there is no official communication thst they filed a case for Remy or Brownlee absence of a confirmation means hasn't been applied , why in the world would anyone assume the opposite thst a case has been filed , thsts illogical

it was you who included why Brownlee should be considered then

Just admit it that this is a special exemption by FIBA because Qatar is hosting the World Cup. To a certain degree like Jawato for Indonesia and Malonzo and Adams for the Philippines, these were accommodations then because we were hosting.

[Giannis34GOD]

He actually has ( to a certain degree )
note 3rd factor is Others - can be connected to a citizen or others such as contributions to the growth of sport by holding camps


The guidelines specify no minimum number of years for both 1 Residdecy years and 2. Domestic leaque playing years

Clarkson meets zero of the factors especially 1 and 2 points which are the primary criteria guidelines for exception

That's why I'm saying this here for long time.. but you always disagree with me.. now you are talking the same way that I telling here.. This is what Mr. Zagklis said how players can be exempted to be a local player.. I post a link here so many times...

[Giannis34GOD]

Just admit it that this is a special exemption by FIBA because Qatar is hosting the World Cup. To a certain degree like Jawato for Indonesia and Malonzo and Adams for the Philippines, these were accommodations then because we were hosting.

True... They just give Qatar a favor... That's it... But this is unfair for other countries, especially lower rank teams who are playing fair.. That's what it is.. But i will not surprise if they will hire more talented Naturalized player next year for Fiba Asia cup and world cup in 2027 as host...

[JAMSKIE]

True... They just give Qatar a favor... That's it... But this is unfair for other countries, especially lower rank teams who are playing fair.. That's what it is.. But i will not surprise if they will hire more talented Naturalized player next year for Fiba Asia cup and world cup in 2027 as host...

Correct. What would stop Qatar from naturalizing more world imports to play for them as locals? The case of Tyler Harris could serve as precedent. Baka one day ma realize nalang natin, Qatar team has as many as 6 Amercan imports playing as locals aside from those Bosnian, Montenegro & African players they "converted" into Qatari citizens prior to their 16th bdays so that they can play as local players. If these would happen, Qatar cam threaten even the top 5 teams in Asia-Oceania.

I hope this won't happen.

[sroth3839]

Correct. What would stop Qatar from naturalizing more world imports to play for them as locals? The case of Tyler Harris could serve as precedent. Baka one day ma realize nalang natin, Qatar team has as many as 6 Amercan imports playing as locals aside from those Bosnian, Montenegro & African players they "converted" into Qatari citizens prior to their 16th bdays so that they can play as local players. If these would happen, Qatar cam threaten even the top 5 teams in Asia-Oceania.

I hope this won't happen.

Reminds me of the 2015 Handball WC. Qatar's team literally had 90% europeans.

Anyways, this is the reality we live in today. Money talks.

Let's just hope those exceptions for QMB, Phillips, Zav, and Ange can come to fruition.

[DAdmiral]

Let's just focus on what we can do (SBP), not others. Just like everyone else is just focusing on what they need to do to get better.
And the reality is as far as getting players eligible, the SBP hasn't been doing a good job, it's a less than strategic smart approach , given how the rules are setup..

[DAdmiral]

It isn't an exaggeration that the SBP stakeholders have spent more on Blatche and Clarkson alone , than the rest of the budget for Gilas. Not kidding.
now is this prudent use of money ?
What if we spent a fraction of the cost allocated to Blatche and Clarkson on simply providing financial assistance to Fil foreigners to process their passport before 16, ( note they eventually processed their passport anyway but however late)

if Qatar is wise enough to invest in 16 year old foreign recruitment, shouldn't we have enough smarts to process and recruit our Fil foreigners before 16 years old? It isn't rocket science