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  • If Arana can play good defense, then I think he would be serviceable for Gilas. He could be some sort of a Mark Pingris.
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    • Originally posted by hmbopbaduwap View Post
      Wow that means he was about 16 when he got into UST seniors.

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      • Originally posted by ja.he View Post

        I think he can do well against Taipei and Hong Kong. His serious test will come from the Tall Blacks.
        He's getting Pingris comparisons. Ping was able to translate his strength internationally. If Arana can also do that, then he will be a good gilas player.

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        • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
          If Arana can play good defense, then I think he would be serviceable for Gilas. He could be some sort of a Mark Pingris.
          Dennis Espino career trajectory than ping..
          To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
          1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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          • Originally posted by Metta View Post

            He's getting Pingris comparisons. Ping was able to translate his strength internationally. If Arana can also do that, then he will be a good gilas player.
            Taller version of Pingris. But I see semblance of Dennis Espino's game on him.
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            • Originally posted by IPC View Post

              Thanks for reminding me on Bolick. Mikey's ineligible and is 32, but we can use an NP.

              Long-term wise, I don't get the sense of forcing a lineup composed of mostly aging/old players, especially if it's against Taiwan and Hong Kong. Unless, the PBA can be open to some of their younger players playing in the windows. Schonny and Tuffin can contribute, and maybe Mamuyac and Tio can be potentially good pieces. Maybe Arana if he can play PF in FIBA. At 6'6" without shoes and a 6'9" wingspan, his size is best for 4.

              Bolick is itching to go and likes that extra competition,Mikey can be in one of the games specially if Brownlee is still a no go.They gotta insert some of the college standouts that had played in Batang Gilas before,I'm a little more confident now on the 2 and small 3 position internationally,the big 3 if either Tamayo or Baltazar or both can play the combo forward.

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              • Originally posted by Metta View Post

                He's getting Pingris comparisons. Ping was able to translate his strength internationally. If Arana can also do that, then he will be a good gilas player.
                Its becoz Pingris had exceptional defense & his energy & tenacity were really up there. Ping was what, 6-foot-4? But he can defend big guys who were 3 to 4 inches taller than him. I remember Ping holding his own against the 6-foot-8 Korean-American big guy during the historic Gilas-South Korea semis game in the 2013 FIBA Asia Championship.

                Hope Arana's defense & tenacity would be somewhere close to that of a prime Pingris.
                "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                • Originally posted by ARMIR View Post


                  Bolick is itching to go and likes that extra competition,Mikey can be in one of the games specially if Brownlee is still a no go.They gotta insert some of the college standouts that had played in Batang Gilas before,I'm a little more confident now on the 2 and small 3 position internationally,the big 3 if either Tamayo or Baltazar or both can play the combo forward.
                  With Mikey's shady reputation, would you like him in Gilas uniform? I would rather try a Stephen Holt.
                  "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                  • Originally posted by Metta View Post
                    He's getting Pingris comparisons. Ping was able to translate his strength internationally. If Arana can also do that, then he will be a good gilas player.
                    Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                    Its becoz Pingris had exceptional defense & his energy & tenacity were really up there. Ping was what, 6-foot-4? But he can defend big guys who were 3 to 4 inches taller than him. I remember Ping holding his own against the 6-foot-8 Korean-American big guy during the historic Gilas-South Korea semis game in the 2013 FIBA Asia Championship.

                    Hope Arana's defense & tenacity would be somewhere close to that of a prime Pingris.
                    And Ping was also a good switch defender. At 6'4", he needed to be quick too for his defense to be truly an asset. Good for him that he had the good combination of quickness, leaping ability, strength, and motor.

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                    • Originally posted by IPC View Post



                      And Ping was also a good switch defender. At 6'4", he needed to be quick too for his defense to be truly an asset. Good for him that he had the good combination of quickness, leaping ability, strength, and motor.
                      This despite of Ping's shortcomings in offense. 3-pt shooting was non-existent & he didn't even have a mid-range jumper.
                      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                        With Mikey's shady reputation, would you like him in Gilas uniform? I would rather try a Stephen Holt.

                        Money is a big motivation for this guy and SMC signs him,then they wanna showcase him.Stephen Holt is your backup if Mikey can't really play.

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                        • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                          With Mikey's shady reputation, would you like him in Gilas uniform? I would rather try a Stephen Holt.
                          so far, it looks like he likes money. i dont blame him as his window of playing is starting to close. maybe less than 10years to go. other than money, what else makes his reputation shady?
                          if he gets paid and he delivers, whats the problem?
                          WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES

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                          • Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post

                            so far, it looks like he likes money. i dont blame him as his window of playing is starting to close. maybe less than 10years to go. other than money, what else makes his reputation shady?
                            if he gets paid and he delivers, whats the problem?
                            Maybe asking more than what he deserves is the problem. In short, greed.

                            While we know that professional basketball is mainly about money, there's a distinction between asking the amount one deserves ( yung sakto lang) & being too greedy. I feel Mikey Williams is more of the latter.
                            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                            • Originally posted by ARMIR View Post


                              Money is a big motivation for this guy and SMC signs him,then they wanna showcase him.Stephen Holt is your backup if Mikey can't really play.
                              My point here is, if for instance Mikey ends up playing for any of the SMC teams in the PBA, if U invite him to play for Gilas, he'll demand a huge pay from the Gilas sponsor/s. And that pay could be much much bigger than each of the other Gilas player gets. For instance a Scottie Thompson gets 100K to play for a particular window, Mikey on the other hand would demand 800K.
                              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                                My point here is, if for instance Mikey ends up playing for any of the SMC teams in the PBA, if U invite him to play for Gilas, he'll demand a huge pay from the Gilas sponsor/s. And that pay could be much much bigger than each of the other Gilas player gets. For instance a Scottie Thompson gets 100K to play for a particular window, Mikey on the other hand would demand 800K.

                                I don't think he can demand more money than the standard pay for all SMC players that plays in any window,he won't have a choice once he signed with SMC,they owned even his soul until that contract expires.

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