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  • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
    Your missing two things

    It's only slim chance if Harris acted alone at 16 to look into Qatar citizenship.
    don't underestimate Qatar craftiness to instigate years before steps to game FBA eligibility system ( they afer all spend heaps to get ahead )

    Two . Qatsr cannot field Harris until he gets a passpprt ( not when he applied for one ) which is alibi on why they didn't use him previously.
    now let me ask you this, QMB , if he had a passport before 16 yrs old as in news , how come he never played in U16 to U19 Batang Gilas youth teams, when there are official news he was being recruited? So begs the question, might he just applied for passport before 16 ( not issued owe ?). We don't know right? In the same way we don't know the details of Harris
    Bro naman.. it's very obvious.. Harris didn't have any connections to Qatar until last year... Before that he played in Argentina, Romania, Uruguay, France before moving to Qatar just last year.. Actually he just finished his stint in Argentina just past summer.. so how you will convince us that he was granted local by Fiba?

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    • I find the Bahamas exceptions more troubling.

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      • Originally posted by FilWelsh View Post

        I believe Qatar’s hosting of 2027 WC is their bargaining chip and they making that event as their hostage… no one can stop them now..
        Maybe.. remember, it take months before Fiba world cup last year to announce who will be the host.. that was pandemic era, where most of the countries badly hit by COVID and there are no budget to host the event.. Same scenario where China withdraw their bid in 2023 AFC (football's Asian cup) then Qatar came to the rescue despite they just finished their hosting at 2022 FIFA world cup...They are the only country willing to spend big for those events within pandemic era...

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        • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
          I find the Bahamas exceptions more troubling.
          Nope... Buddy Hield, DeAndre Ayton, Mychal Thompson, Kai Jones are all born in Bahamas even they raised in US.. remember, it's automatic local for Fiba where you born in that country.. passport is not that needed if you have documents that you were born there...

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          • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

            Nope... Buddy Hield, DeAndre Ayton, Mychal Thompson, Kai Jones are all born in Bahamas even they raised in US.. remember, it's automatic local for Fiba where you born in that country.. passport is not that needed if you have documents that you were born there...
            Eric Gordon?

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            • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
              Before prompting judgment, understand the basis of FIBA eligibility rules, which contrary to conventional thought is not base on either blood lines or even residency .
              it's based on documentation
              FIBA rules are agnostic of the different independent laws of citizenship of each country, it isnt based on one's opinion perception of who is rightfully a citizen of a country.
              Filipino is a nationality, not ethnicity. The fact that you don't know that only means you have no business talking about who is Filipino and who isn't.

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              • Originally posted by empyreanmaze View Post

                Peranakan is a malay word for a mixed-race Malay so that's Edu, Perez, Ramos and Newsome and the older guys like Pingris. Guys like Kai, Fajardo, Japeth, Quiambao, Tamayo and Scottie are malay-stock pinoys and this team wouldn't exist without them. I don't think we really consider pinoys with dominant light skinned east Asian phenotypes like Kai, Romeo, Chan and Tamayo as mixed anymore because there is a lot of us.
                You know Malay is an antiquated term to refer to Southeast Asians? The politically correct term is Austronesians and the fact that you don't know that means you have no business talking about who is Filipino and who isn't.

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                • why did this thread suddenly become racist?

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                  • Originally posted by OverratedTabBaldwin View Post

                    Filipino is a nationality, not ethnicity. The fact that you don't know that only means you have no business talking about who is Filipino and who isn't.
                    And FIBA clearly distinguishes the differenc between entnicity and Nationality, otherwise all African Americans like Lebron can play for an African nation. And BTW FIBA like I really don't have business determining who is Filipino National or not , they do have business however pf their jurisdiction which is who is FIBA eligible or Not .

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                    • Some are NOT reading or refuse to comprehend

                      1. It's passport APPLIED not passport issue date .
                      (application befor 16 is an exception basis )


                      2. Verification of records including application date is based on record keeping of central immigration international records shared by different countries (none of this information is available as public knowledge that anyone here knows of)

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                      • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                        Your missing two things

                        It's only slim chance if Harris acted alone at 16 to look into Qatar citizenship.
                        don't underestimate Qatar craftiness to instigate years before steps to game FBA eligibility system ( they afer all spend heaps to get ahead )

                        Two . Qatsr cannot field Harris until he gets a passpprt ( not when he applied for one ) which is alibi on why they didn't use him previously.
                        now let me ask you this, QMB , if he had a passport before 16 yrs old as in news , how come he never played in U16 to U19 Batang Gilas youth teams, when there are official news he was being recruited? So begs the question, might he just applied for passport before 16 ( not issued owe ?). We don't know right? In the same way we don't know the details of Harris
                        Sir, why compare Philippine basketball from Qatar basketball? Qatar basketball has lots & lots of money while Philippine basketball has almost nothing.

                        Are U aware of what Qatar basketball did in the 2000's when it recruited quite a No. Of players from Africa (of no Qatari descent) then it gave them Qatari citizenship & have them play in the Qatar national team as local players? That's the reason Qatar was competitive in Asian basketball during the 2000's.

                        Qatar can do that because it has the money to draw or attract foreign players (of no Qatari descent) to play for the Qatar national team.

                        In Philippine basketball on the other hand, what we did (& still is doing) is to convince Fil-american or Fil-foreign players to play in the PBA so that in turn, they might play for the national team as in the cases of Danny Seigle, Asi Taulava, Kelly Williams, Gabe Norwood, etc. But those players are natural born Filipinos. Those African & Bosnian players playing & had played for the Qatar national team on the other hand are absolute foreigners of no Qatari descent & were just "converted" into Qatari locals.

                        My point here is that it's very hard to believe the possibility that if for instance Tyler Harris applied for or had obtained Qatari passport prior to his 16th b-day, it took so many years (Harris is already 31 yrs old by the way) before the Qataris were able to convince him to finally play for the Qatar national team as a local knowing how eager or determined the Qataris are in making their national team competitive. Remember that for several years now, Qatar basketball has struggled in Asian basketball. For sure Harris would have been a big help in making the team competitive if Harris had joined the team say 6 years ago.
                        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                        • Who do you all think you’re kidding? Let’s look at our own team shall we:

                          Brownlee - one naturalized player
                          Newsome - born and raised overseas
                          Ramos - born and raised overseas
                          Edu - born and raised overseas
                          Norwood - born and raised overseas
                          Matthew Wright - born and raised overseas
                          Lassiter - born and raised overseas
                          Amos - born and raised overseas

                          And the most egregious one of them all:

                          Malonzo - born and raised overseas then miraculously remembers he got a PH passport before 16 just before the FIBA WC. What are the odds!

                          Anyone crying foul over Qatar should be embarrassed in themselves.

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                          • Qatar is very capable of providing official intelligence records that Harris applied for a passport before 16 .
                            this has nothing to do with Harris availability, but Qatars capabilities, ( they actually plan well in advance to game a system which is legal)

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                            • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
                              I find the Bahamas exceptions more troubling.
                              I agree , very well documented

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                              • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                                Some are NOT reading or refuse to comprehend

                                1. It's passport APPLIED not passport issue date .
                                (application befor 16 is an exception basis )


                                2. Verification of records including application date is based on record keeping of central immigration international records shared by different countries (none of this information is available as public knowledge that anyone here knows of)
                                Paiba iba ka Analyzed. Now it's passport applied, before you are insinuating that Remy Martin was issued just a couple of months after he turned 16. So if that's the case then he applied a months prior turning 16? Then if before pala nagapply, this is the route that can be taken by SBP for him. If that's the case he should be eligible.

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