Tweet
Originally posted by JAMSKIE
View Post
-
Not just SBP, but all asian basketball federations involve.. This is unfair to all teams participating... -
We hosted last year fiba world cup and fiba did not allow us to play JC as a local, because of their "strict rule" and yet allowed qatar, nigeria and others lol.
Fiba is a joke...
kung ganyan lang kouame should get an exemption to play as local now, if others are allowed i don't see any reason na mareject siya. his basketball heritage is here, he develop his game here.
Comment
-
-
How does being thankful that the rules forced the Philippines to actually showcase the brilliance of brown malay/peranakan pinoys instead of relying on literal American mercenaries make me self-hating?Originally posted by OverratedTabBaldwin View PostComment
-
Because they are also Filipino and recognized as such. So why call then illegals.Originally posted by empyreanmaze View PostComment
-
Before prompting judgment, understand the basis of FIBA eligibility rules, which contrary to conventional thought is not base on either blood lines or even residency .
it's based on documentation
FIBA rules are agnostic of the different independent laws of citizenship of each country, it isnt based on one's opinion perception of who is rightfully a citizen of a country.Comment
-
That's bullshit, they're only "Filipinos" when PBA stakeholders needs a W. If anything FIBA rules needs to be more nationalistic instead of capitalistic. Giving some leeway to weak sauce non-competitive teams like Qatar, Taipei and Indonesia should be allowed in some cases but it shouldn't run too wild(ie having a fully foreign starting 5). I don't really know why some pinoy fans are concerned about these teams, small boy mentality.Originally posted by zairex View PostComment
-
In your eyes how many of them were able to showcase their brilliance? For me, there were only 3 players.Originally posted by empyreanmaze View Post
1. Kai
2. Ranidel
3. Romeo
Alapag(Questionable) Imo he was never good in fiba competition.
Asi-Tongan
Pingris-French
Castro-Maga
Chan-Chinese
Fonacier-dunno but pretty sure not malay/indo
Skati-Maga
Ramos-Putin
Newsome-Maga
Samahan ng mga Bopol ng PilipinasComment
-
Peranakan is a malay word for a mixed-race Malay so that's Edu, Perez, Ramos and Newsome and the older guys like Pingris. Guys like Kai, Fajardo, Japeth, Quiambao, Tamayo and Scottie are malay-stock pinoys and this team wouldn't exist without them. I don't think we really consider pinoys with dominant light skinned east Asian phenotypes like Kai, Romeo, Chan and Tamayo as mixed anymore because there is a lot of us.Originally posted by bluenote49 View PostComment
-
So you think FIBA declaring Tyler Harris as a local Qatari player is legal, valid & logical?Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
Come on!!!
We all know that Harris hasn't obtained Qatari passport prior to his 16th birthday & he's of no Qatari descent. So why on earth did FIBA declare him as a Qatari local? Harris should be declared as a Qatari naturalized player & not a local player.
Kung sina Standhardinger, Clarkson, Pringle were never declared by FIBA as Pinoy local players despite being legit Filipino citizens becoz of their Filipino heritage, then why declare someone as Qatari local when he is a total foreigner & hasn't secured a Qatari passport before his 16th birthday?
I understand that you don't give a damn about bloodline, race, ethnicity, descent or heritage (or whatever you call it. I don't give a damn about semantics as well. Ang importante naintinduhan mo ang ibig kong e imply), but let's be realistic, Asians, in particular the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, are very particular about race, bloodline, ethnicity.
"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
-
It's not Qatar who are weak.. it's about the rules Fiba implementing about eligibility rules... We have no problem if one of Harris or Lewis will be local if they do the right way of exemption.. both Americans just came to Qatar last year, no connection whatsoever to the country and yet one of them granted exemption easily.. what is the purpose of Hagop rule by the way? If they allowed them to parade in the same team together then better scrap that rule.. many countries will likely benefit from it likes of Vietnam, Cambodia, etc...Originally posted by empyreanmaze View PostComment
-
-
I have an immigration background and have consulted FIBA central legal personnel on the basis of their eligibility policies , it has nothing to do on what I think is right or not or what is more popularly considered the norm
Before being able to comment on any case , we have to know all the details (not what is just disclosed and made available to the public) , do we even know what is the basis of FIBA in declaring the Qatar player in question as eligible ? If we don't , how can we possibly conclude that jt is not right based on assumptions of what we know and have available information on .
How do we know for sure that both have no whatsoever previous immigration records with Qatar before 16 ? Do we know their records ? Just because they're Americans doesn't mean they have zero Qatar immigration records in the past on official verifiable records kept in data by world bodies ( 5 eyes etc )
what if the person in question for example has a verified record accessible in data immigration sharing records of a file that they officially applied for Qatar citizenship before the age of 16 , now what does the policy of FIBA state in this regard ratified by a process of approval.Comment
-
I mean, if the SBP is interested, they can question it anyway. Or they could use that as a reason to include the exceptions needed (Philips, Remy Martin). They should apply the mindset: 'If they can do it, why shouldn't we? Just say that it is unfair and the FIBA might go easy on our ineligible players who has bloodline but can't play because of the passport rule.
Comment
-
Correct.Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
What provision in FIBA rule on player eligibility was used which granted eligibility to Harris as a Qatari local player?"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
Comment