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  • This reply by Giannis34GOD has been deleted by Sikatrix

    Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
    If SGA supports UE does that mean that Converge will leave UP for UE?
    I thought Robinson is the main chief backer of UP, w/ the help of Remullas...

  • Originally posted by Metta View Post

    It's probably a result of scouting and in-game adjustments. Gameplan of opposing teams would always be, defend 3-pt shooters and take advantage of their small guards.

    How effective the opposing teams are able to do that is only found out once the game transpires. Then comes adjustments.

    And if their shooters get hot and consistently hit logo shots, players will tend to try to match that and game play gets rushed.
    The thing that they are overlooking on Japan is that their guards and the wings (1, 2 and 3) are close to three-level scorers - they can drive, they can go midrange and shoot from the three. They also have smooth handles (Korean guards are pretty stiffed ballhandlers) and pretty quick.
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    • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

      I think Indonesia has a shot beating Thailand this Sunday... They are playing at home and have better roster.. but Indonesia needs to beat Thailand 17 or more points to steal that 3rd place.. or else Indonesia have to beat either Australia or Korea to advance which is way harder...
      Indonesians should stop counting on DMX and Bolden. They are not always available. IMO, they should process Dame Diagne's clearance as a local. Vincent Kosasih can't handle the paint all by himself.
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      • Originally posted by ja.he View Post

        Indonesians should stop counting on DMX and Bolden. They are not always available. IMO, they should process Dame Diagne's clearance as a local. Vincent Kosasih can't handle the paint all by himself.
        But Beane, Jawato, Grahita and Saputera are all speedsters.. Lish is the only guard can match up on them.. Beane dominates every Korean guards who are defending.. it's too hard for Lish to stop much bigger and more talented Beane... if Lamb and Morgan bros are there it will be better but it's unlucky that this crucial match they are not available.. Indonesia might win their match vs Thailand on Sunday at their home but the question will be they can beat Thailand by 17? That's the magic number for them..

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        • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

          But Beane, Jawato, Grahita and Saputera are all speedsters.. Lish is the only guard can match up on them.. Beane dominates every Korean guards who are defending.. it's too hard for Lish to stop much bigger and more talented Beane... if Lamb and Morgan bros are there it will be better but it's unlucky that this crucial match they are not available.. Indonesia might win their match vs Thailand on Sunday at their home but the question will be they can beat Thailand by 17? That's the magic number for them..
          Well, both teams have a slim to reach the FIBA-Asia Cup anyway since the possible third placers in other groups are Guam and Taipei.
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          • Originally posted by deku_midoriya View Post
            Japan will not make contested threes over scottie, ramos, newsome, oftana. They will have to do it off screens. A good man to man will shut them down. Believe me, newsome will shut kawamura down. My concern is watanabe, hachi and the work rate of hawkinson.
            Kawamura’s quickness translates even in the nba where even at half court, guards have a problem staying in front of him and he can beat his man off the dribble, his weakness is his finishing inside since he’s smaller, also his shooting efficiency isn’t that good by nba standards but we’ve seen in FIBA he can shoot over taller defenders.

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            • I think a team on the rise after some years of struggle in Asian basketball is Chinese Taipei. The team is impressive in its game vs. Hongkong yesterday, beating Hongkong by a whopping 30 pts. This current CT team is significantly stronger than the one that played in the 1st window last February.The Taiwanese have a No. of promising young players including the 6-foot-2 Afro shooting guard Mohammed Gadiaga Bachir a. k. a. "Abbasi" who is playing in the japan B-league & 6-foot-3 combo guard Benson Lin who is playing in China CBA. These 2 are really promising guards. Waiting in pipeline are the very 2 Hinton brothers who are honing their skills in the US. Both are good size wings & are promising as well.

              Chinese Taipei's Achilles heel remains to be in the big man position that's why their naturalized players are natural centers. It would be interesting to see the Chinese Taipei vs. New Zealand game a few days from now. It would be the real test for Chinese Taipei.
              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                I think a team on the rise after some years of struggle in Asian basketball is Chinese Taipei. The team is impressive in its game vs. Hongkong yesterday, beating Hongkong by a whopping 30 pts. This current CT team is significantly stronger than the one that played in the 1st window last February.The Taiwanese have a No. of promising young players including the 6-foot-2 Afro shooting guard Mohammed Gadiaga Bachir a. k. a. "Abbasi" who is playing in the japan B-league & 6-foot-3 combo guard Benson Lin who is playing in China CBA. These 2 are really promising guards. Waiting in pipeline are the very 2 Hinton brothers who are honing their skills in the US. Both are good size wings & are promising as well.

                Chinese Taipei's Achilles heel remains to be in the big man position that's why their naturalized players are natural centers. It would be interesting to see the Chinese Taipei vs. New Zealand game a few days from now. It would be the real test for Chinese Taipei.
                Gilbeck looks better than Artino. He blends well with the team maybe because he has been playing pro in Taiwan for quite sometime now.
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                • I wonder how much better hong kong can be when this guy finally plays

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                  • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
                    I wonder how much better hong kong can be when this guy finally plays

                    https://www.scmp.com/sport/basketbal...cup-qualifiers
                    Definitely a boost, it will finally relieve the pressure on Duncan Reid from carrying the team at the bigman spot. However, the overall quality of the locals will still drag Hong Kong's team down.
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                    • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
                      SoKor is still in transition period. They'll be good in next cycle 28-31
                      Agree.
                      Its still early to jump into conclusion that South Korea basketball is on a decline. There are really times & period when a team, an Asian contender for that matter, would be struggling, especially during its transition period. I remember South Korea had some struggle in Asian basketball during the late 2000's. But the Koreans bounced back in 2011 & 2013 editions of FIBA Asia Championship finishing third in both tournaments.

                      Korea will always have a good pool of talents. Its just a matter of developing a cohesive & mature national team.
                      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                      • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
                        I wonder how much better hong kong can be when this guy finally plays

                        https://www.scmp.com/sport/basketbal...cup-qualifiers
                        How the hell can they play right away by just getting hongkong passport? Should not they be considered as NP since because of the passport before 16 rule?

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                        • Originally posted by lem0nadi View Post

                          How the hell can they play right away by just getting hongkong passport? Should not they be considered as NP since because of the passport before 16 rule?
                          He was born and raised in Hong Kong - enough justification to consider him as a local.
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                          • Originally posted by lem0nadi View Post

                            How the hell can they play right away by just getting hongkong passport? Should not they be considered as NP since because of the passport before 16 rule?
                            He is still in the GLeague. Probably wont play until the offseason. Should also be a candidate for an exemption if he is legit born and raised in Hong Kong.

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                            • Originally posted by lem0nadi View Post
                              2023 World Cup : finished 22nd among 32 teams

                              Reuben Te Rangi (C), Izayah Le'afa, Finn Delany, Taylor Britt, Shea Ili, Yanni Wetzell, Flynn Cameron, Tohi Smith-Milner, Jordan Ngatai, Hyrum Harris, Walter Brown, Isaac Fotu.


                              ​I don't understand how some people call that NZ team Gilas defeated last night a Team B. This is their WC lineup and Lli, Ngatai, and Fotu are the only missing key ones. Which to be honest a degrade if we are going to replace Waardenberg over Fotu. Ngatai on the other hand is that bearded-guy whom Francis Lopez got heated on, and he can be easily check by a healthy Jamie Malonzo. Webster is literally an upgrade over Lli.

                              Mennenga is gone, so is Edu. Also, Waardenberg is their arguably best big right now who is averaging 15ppg in NBL Australia. I think their team last night is the best Team they had over these past few years but its just that they were on rebuilding mode.
                              Those are all just lame excuses and reasons by the NZ fanboys. JMF would be playable if they opt to go with Wetzell and Fotu. Those two are smaller and had issues with their laterals.

                              Why would NZ even need to trap Gilas’ perimeter players? Breaking that press would be too easy for us. Let’s be real—that kind of strategy works only against low-tier teams, and they’ll need Corey’s scoring to even compete with Gilas. Kahit sino pa ipadala ng NZ, Gilas would still come out on top unless they somehow convince Adams to suit up. All these excuses are just BS. A loss is a loss—no need for so many reasons. Haha!

                              If Kai eventually pairs with a solid defensive big like Edu, that’s when we’ll truly see how dominant this Gilas team can be.

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