We Need Shooters

[mathematicianrcg]

For tall Shooter

Are you buying 6'7-6'8 Fil Russian Alex Konov as a Wing Shooter? Or he is more of a Stretch Big?

I think if used correctly, he can be a Tall Wing 3pt specialist for us

[C2Hamm]

For tall Shooter

Are you buying 6'7-6'8 Fil Russian Alex Konov as a Wing Shooter? Or he is more of a Stretch Big?

I think if used correctly, he can be a Tall Wing 3pt specialist for us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRx5jhvCNcM

outside of 2 dribbles to get away from close outs he cant put the rock on the floor to attack the defense. mostly set shots and occasional putbacks. i like that he puts efforts to run during fastbreak though.

[Metta]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRx5jhvCNcM

outside of 2 dribbles to get away from close outs he cant put the rock on the floor to attack the defense. mostly set shots and occasional putbacks. i like that he puts efforts to run during fastbreak though.

I like his shooting form to go with his length.

Like Caidic said in his article, he was more of the "set plays" type of shooter. This is how to utilize shooters lacking in handles.

Konov runs/moves well and looks competitive (may angas) so I see his potential in moving without the ball to get open. Youth is also on his side so lots of development time.

And for a "pure shooter," that one or two dribble after a close out then doing a pull up, can already be enough of a lethal arsenal. Klay is hard to stop being that type of player.

[C2Hamm]

I like his shooting form to go with his length.

Like Caidic said in his article, he was more of the "set plays" type of shooter. This is how to utilize shooters lacking in handles.

Konov runs/moves well and looks competitive (may angas) so I see his potential in moving without the ball to get open. Youth is also on his side so lots of development time.

And for a "pure shooter," that one or two dribble after a close out then doing a pull up, can already be enough of a lethal arsenal. Klay is hard to stop being that type of player.

im not too worried with this kid. it's all up to the coach. if they use Konov for pick n pops, hi\lo, or even for kickouts, he would be a great addition because on top of his shooting, he adds rebounding. but if, whoever the coach would be when he is ripe for the main Gilas team, he used like how Wright was used. meaning, given the ball to create, he might now be the one we want. id rather have him than porter or mahmoud though. none of those 3 can be 5s and most likely not be used as wings either. we have too many dynamic wings to choose from that these 3 will be used mostly as stretch big and only Konov has decent height. 6'5 porter and mahmoud wont scare anyone in the international scene past SEA region.

[Metta]

we have good shooters actually ... problem is they're only good when shooting against similar sized or smaller players

its one thing for lassiter or wright to get a shot off a pogoy or scottie yet it s a totally different ballgame when they have to shoot vs uber 6'5 athletes in the international stage

what gilas needs is a tall point guard or go to small forward that can suck in defenses and thus open up shooters

That's why I keep reiterating, shooting is all about repetition and confidence.

Those 5-foot-nothing guards of Japan never lost their confidence. If they had to shoot 10 foot from the 3pt line to have an open shot, they did so without hesitation. Length becomes a non-factor, these are all grown-ass men and they all have the strength to jack it up from there if needed. Confidence.

Confidence is tricky though, you partly gain it by knowing you've put in the time (hundreds/thousands of shots a day) and by getting the green light from the coach. Every team should have at least one guy that the coach gives the total green light to, that's how you develop elite shooters.

[TheRodster21]

6’2 quick release crazy range and unlimited confidence.

[Metta]

6’2 quick release crazy range and unlimited confidence.

Exactly.

It starts with the form. It doesn't have to be textbook or pretty, but it has to be consistent and exactly the same for every shot (especially on the follow-through/release). Once you identify the players with good form and accuracy, make him shoot hundreds/thousands of shots a day. At first, concentrate on "form shooting" so that means it doesn't have to be far from the basket. Make that form automatic/quick through muscle memory (repetition). As he progresses, that's where you add different scenarios/distances. Again hundreds/thousands of shots a day.

The right player who does this will be an elite shooter...and that's when the confidence starts. Rinse and repeat for years. Then basically, the confidence part will be the one that separates the elite from the great.

[Kaireem]

That's why I keep reiterating, shooting is all about repetition and confidence.

Those 5-foot-nothing guards of Japan never lost their confidence. If they had to shoot 10 foot from the 3pt line to have an open shot, they did so without hesitation. Length becomes a non-factor, these are all grown-ass men and they all have the strength to jack it up from there if needed. Confidence.

Confidence is tricky though, you partly gain it by knowing you've put in the time (hundreds/thousands of shots a day) and by getting the green light from the coach. Every team should have at least one guy that the coach gives the total green light to, that's how you develop elite shooters.

in fairness to them japanese shorties, quite a number of them did hone their shooting skills in the us ncaa, shooting over uber athletic 6'4-6'6 guards and 6'7++ wings

isn't it ironic that we have respectable big men now but ever since the pba and colleges put a premium on recruiting big men imports that the development of our guards and wings have seem to have stagnated to "local" levels only?

[DAdmiral]

It comes down to reps and exposure

I've had 1st hand experience in developing really good shooter
Amos brothers
Tuffin (could not shoot in high school)
le'afa ( scored 23 and 27 pts in world cup)

So I know it can be done.

Philippine leagues PBA and UAAP shooting % in FT and 3 pts is actually poor ( so something is obviously wrong on how we develop shooters ). , thiing is as I mentioned above shooting can be developed

[ARMIR]

6’2 quick release crazy range and unlimited confidence.

In the US NCAA Div1,Tominaga is used to being guarded by guys 6'5-6'7 and he adjusted and found ways to shoot over them.When he goes to the NBA,this guy will be setting all kinds of scoring numbers.

[Kaireem]

It comes down to reps and exposure

I've had 1st hand experience in developing really good shooter
Amos brothers
Tuffin (could not shoot in high school)
le'afa ( scored 23 and 27 pts in world cup)

So I know it can be done.

Philippine leagues PBA and UAAP shooting % in FT and 3 pts is actually poor ( so something is obviously wrong on how we develop shooters ). , thiing is as I mentioned above shooting can be developed

this requires mental toughness

[Metta]

It comes down to reps and exposure

I've had 1st hand experience in developing really good shooter
Amos brothers
Tuffin (could not shoot in high school)
le'afa ( scored 23 and 27 pts in world cup)

So I know it can be done.

Philippine leagues PBA and UAAP shooting % in FT and 3 pts is actually poor ( so something is obviously wrong on how we develop shooters ). , thiing is as I mentioned above shooting can be developed

I respect your opinion but I think confidence is more crucial than exposure.

I've also personally seen players go up a higher level (pre-HS to HS, HS to college) and immediately shoot lights out. Minimal to no exposure needed. What they have however, is the reps (repetition/practice) and a lot of confidence.

While there are countless veterans (already a lot of exposure) who regress once their confidence takes a hit (Ben Simmons).

[IPC]

For tall Shooter

Are you buying 6'7-6'8 Fil Russian Alex Konov as a Wing Shooter? Or he is more of a Stretch Big?

I think if used correctly, he can be a Tall Wing 3pt specialist for us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRx5jhvCNcM

outside of 2 dribbles to get away from close outs he cant put the rock on the floor to attack the defense. mostly set shots and occasional putbacks. i like that he puts efforts to run during fastbreak though.

I like his shooting form to go with his length.

Like Caidic said in his article, he was more of the "set plays" type of shooter. This is how to utilize shooters lacking in handles.

Konov runs/moves well and looks competitive (may angas) so I see his potential in moving without the ball to get open. Youth is also on his side so lots of development time.

And for a "pure shooter," that one or two dribble after a close out then doing a pull up, can already be enough of a lethal arsenal. Klay is hard to stop being that type of player.

im not too worried with this kid. it's all up to the coach. if they use Konov for pick n pops, hi\lo, or even for kickouts, he would be a great addition because on top of his shooting, he adds rebounding. but if, whoever the coach would be when he is ripe for the main Gilas team, he used like how Wright was used. meaning, given the ball to create, he might now be the one we want. id rather have him than porter or mahmoud though. none of those 3 can be 5s and most likely not be used as wings either. we have too many dynamic wings to choose from that these 3 will be used mostly as stretch big and only Konov has decent height. 6'5 porter and mahmoud wont scare anyone in the international scene past SEA region.

I think Konov is more of a tweener at this point, but let's see if he can still develop into a true wing (I hope so). He has quickness and hustle, so maybe he can develop into a 3&D 3/4. Checks two boxes at once, shooting and defense from the forward spot.

[C2Hamm]

I think Konov is more of a tweener at this point, but let's see if he can still develop into a true wing (I hope so). He has quickness and hustle, so maybe he can develop into a 3&D 3/4. Checks two boxes at once, shooting and defense from the forward spot.

That would be good obviously but what does he need to do to be a wing? Once he does that, does that mean he dislodge papa dwight, carl, balti, harris, jones, and bayla among others? They wont all be available same time but where will he be in the pecking order?

[Metta]

The trend in world basketball (especially youth brackets) that I see is, teams will have 3 to 4 very similar in height players (wings) then a big and sometimes a smaller lead guard. But for those 3 to 4 similarly sized players, positions are blurred and they can all shoot and handle the ball.

It's only logical that if basketball becomes position-less and "switch everything on D" the height that would be ideal is the middle-sized wing. Hopefully in our case taller wings than we're used to.

Junior team of Letran employed a team composition like this, most players were close to 6'1-6'3. They were all versatile defenders and can handle the ball, whoever got a defensive rebound took off. The only missing thing again....good shooting.