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  • #76
    Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post

    Now if we form an early core ( coach and young players for 2027 WC) this July for OQT, we have around 80 % chance of making the 2027 WC and maybe a 10 % chance of making 2nd round of WC and making the 2028 Olympics outright as lone Asian Olympic qualifier. Now tell me which is more sensible planning ? this decision does not need to be experimented or proven , as time and time again it is long term planning that works ( period)
    Correct after all the prepaartions done by team in 2018 yeah we stumbled in world cup but picked up whats left off and we won the gold with guys who were involved in that process
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
    1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by ja.he View Post



      ​You did not get my point - teams should not rely on certain players.

      DR is all about KAT. Take out KAT, DR will take a dip in terms of competitiveness.

      When the Golden Generation of Argentina retired, they struggled to stay relevant in recent years.

      This is where Brazil is commendable - no letdowns despite of change of guard. I do believe that no one in Asia-Pacific can beat this team except Australia
      No bro… even w/o KAT, they are tough team in Americas… do you know Jean Montero? He’s just 19 but already top players of DR… they both equal in terms of manpower, strength… actually, Brazil would not qualify in this year’s World Cup if not for team USA’s decision to bring worst than their g-league players in their last game… Do you know they lose to f*ck*ng Columbia in World Cup qualifiers, I really don’t know that Columbia has a basketball team, yet Brazil lose to them….




      they also lose to Puerto Rico and Mexico in World Cup qualifiers too… and you say they are better? Cmon…. Brazil got lucky last qualifiers (they have same fate as Iran in WC qualifiers, only save by the bell)…

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      • #78
        Originally posted by reamily View Post
        If we really prepare hard, we can win this tournament(mga 2 percent)... hahah hot take..as long as no kp in equation
        Gilas just focus to beat Georgia first… they are tough to beat but they are lower than Latvia… Get that inspiration from Japan how they beat Finland… I think Finland is slightly better than Georgia… if they plan really well, they can upset Georgia… the schedule is also not in favor on Gilas.. they will play in 1st 2 games… so Georgia would watch Gilas first game vs Latvia to scout… Gilas has to play smart in able to manage squeeze to the 2nd round via back door

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        • #79
          I would consider picking Kouame over JC or JB. With Kouame and Edu there we can rotate them and have a good rim protector who is excellent at switching on the floor all the time. We dont need to play JF who always becomes target practice at this level. Kai would also be optional. Our SF, SG spot would be weaker but I think a rotation of Dwight, Newsome and Malonzo can be decent. Newsome proved he can be decent at the SF spot last Asian games.

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          • #80
            Tagal pa kasi eh. Way too many things will happen before August. Gilas doesn't even have a coach, there could be a bunch of new and even returning faces to the program based on their performance in the PBA like Juan GDL and Caracut. Even Balanza is decent-sized for the FIBA game. Maybe try out Santillian as an undersized 3 or even a 4 the way Quiambao was at FIBA Asia. If JC gets a callback, I'd like to see Carl Tamayo because he spreads the floor better than every other big Gilas had (including RdO). We'll just have to wait for FIBA Asia Cup qualifying before looking ahead to the OQT.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by paolylo View Post
              Tagal pa kasi eh. Way too many things will happen before August. Gilas doesn't even have a coach, there could be a bunch of new and even returning faces to the program based on their performance in the PBA like Juan GDL and Caracut. Even Balanza is decent-sized for the FIBA game. Maybe try out Santillian as an undersized 3 or even a 4 the way Quiambao was at FIBA Asia. If JC gets a callback, I'd like to see Carl Tamayo because he spreads the floor better than every other big Gilas had (including RdO). We'll just have to wait for FIBA Asia Cup qualifying before looking ahead to the OQT.
              Yeah… others are too rush even the event still months ahead… most of the players are playing professionally… they are busy from their mother clubs…

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Rds View Post
                I would consider picking Kouame over JC or JB. With Kouame and Edu there we can rotate them and have a good rim protector who is excellent at switching on the floor all the time. We dont need to play JF who always becomes target practice at this level. Kai would also be optional. Our SF, SG spot would be weaker but I think a rotation of Dwight, Newsome and Malonzo can be decent. Newsome proved he can be decent at the SF spot last Asian games.

                The perfect big man rotation for Gilas is Kai and Kouame at 5,AJ at 4 with a backup from dual position Balthazar and Tamayo.That's the tallest and most skilled athletic big men frontline that Gilas can ever field.

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                • #83
                  by OQT July, if SBP wanted to Philips will be exempted, (no Asian team would contest his inclusion in the OQT) , only one who would oppose is the PBA ,, as he would join B-league.

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                  • #84
                    given their success in the asian games wonder to what extent will the smc block's involvement be? and if it will still be longhair running the show will he continue to shun those who ask for the "moon"?

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Kaireem View Post
                      given their success in the asian games wonder to what extent will the smc block's involvement be? and if it will still be longhair running the show will he continue to shun those who ask for the "moon"?
                      With the timeframe... it's just going to be Clarkson unless the program brings in Kouame or a 36-year old Brownlee. I think Kai Sotto is done as far as bargaining power with Chua there. AJ Edu will be happy to join the team without drama. Who are other SMC bigs? Sanggalang? Tratter? I really can't see them bringing in outsiders to the pool unless they're trading for them soon. I don't trust them any more than I trusted MVP and his henchmen.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by paolylo View Post
                        With the timeframe... it's just going to be Clarkson unless the program brings in Kouame or a 36-year old Brownlee. I think Kai Sotto is done as far as bargaining power with Chua there. AJ Edu will be happy to join the team without drama. Who are other SMC bigs? Sanggalang? Tratter? I really can't see them bringing in outsiders to the pool unless they're trading for them soon. I don't trust them any more than I trusted MVP and his henchmen.
                        The SMC bigs are June Mar, Japeth Sangalang, Tratter, Tautuaa (ineligible), Laput (ineligible), Reavis (ineligible), Manuel and Brondial.

                        After June Mar, their cupboard of quality eligible bigs for FIBA is bare. Japeth's retired.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by paolylo View Post

                          With the timeframe... it's just going to be Clarkson unless the program brings in Kouame or a 36-year old Brownlee. I think Kai Sotto is done as far as bargaining power with Chua there. AJ Edu will be happy to join the team without drama. Who are other SMC bigs? Sanggalang? Tratter? I really can't see them bringing in outsiders to the pool unless they're trading for them soon. I don't trust them any more than I trusted MVP and his henchmen.
                          I think they just tap Kouame, If Brownlee still suspended... SBP will not waste money for now to JC... unless SBP will tap new naturalized player for OQT, especially the chances are slim... What happened to JB's case? Why until now WADA/ITA still silent on JB's case?

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by IPC View Post

                            The SMC bigs are June Mar, Japeth Sangalang, Tratter, Tautuaa (ineligible), Laput (ineligible), Reavis (ineligible), Manuel and Brondial.

                            After June Mar, their cupboard of quality eligible bigs for FIBA is bare. Japeth's retired.
                            That's why Edu and Kai still necessity in this program... The next best eligible big man in the PBA is Justin Arana already....

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

                              I think they just tap Kouame, If Brownlee still suspended... SBP will not waste money for now to JC... unless SBP will tap new naturalized player for OQT, especially the chances are slim... What happened to JB's case? Why until now WADA/ITA still silent on JB's case?
                              Only poor people don't understand how basketball here is just luho to these conglomerates (unless they run a farm team). Some people buy Playstations for fun, these conglomerates buy basketball teams and have the league in their pockets for fun. MPIC is a lot poorer than SMC but still had more than enough money to host the World Cup, pay both Clarkson and Kai Sotto, then keep wasting (what rich people call investing) more money on power/toll roads/water/health care/light rail/logistics. It's not so much SMC wasting money than it is trusting in his ability to create shots better than say... Mikey Williams? In Kai's case, his value is inflated based on the lack of rim protection apart from Edu, JMF, and Kouame. Sige fine, para may maka-dunk din tapos happy mga tao.

                              A full-strength Gilas team with proper international coaching will be competitive. Now, it's a matter of being able to win at least one vs Latvia or Georgia, then pull an upset against either Brazil or Montenegro and hope the final isn't against Latvia, if it is... maybe upset Latvia. If Clarkson wants to play, I have no doubt SMC will pay him whatever he was getting for the World Cup. Bahala na sila mag-usap. Kai is another story because it's really up to MVP's people who gave Kai and his family the whole kabuhayan plus package that PBA players normally get when they're retired. So all this talk about players asking for the moon has layers of value versus utang na loob attached to it. At the end of the day, we'll want to hear this "for the country" talk, but there are options ranging from who has been there before, who impresses, and who can actually make the team better.

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                              • #90
                                This YouTuber thinks we should send a young squad for the OQT, similar to what sir DAdmiral said:



                                He says that we should send younger PBA players, the overseas guys, and some collegiate players.

                                Honestly, I agree to an extent. We just need some veterans that can still play in 2027. We should be able to balance development of a core, and ability to compete with world-level teams.

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