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  • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

    Culture matters... Even Korea not hiring foreign coaches... Language barrier, attitudes of every players and coaches has to adjust to the culture of the country they coaching... If Tab Baldwin coaching those countries and saying "Tactical Immatured" to the local coaches, He will get Persona Non Grata there... Tab is lucky that he is in the Philippines...
    I agree with you on culture matters. I guess Iran winning with Rajko and Veselin was due mostly because of their golden generation as mentioned by IPC.

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    • Samll usage foir Calvin oftana people should realize that his new tnt role was played by Brownlee so he must really paly loot of off ball and mix inside to see more productivity stat wise.. just dont hesiatte to take open shots is my advice..
      To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
      1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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      • Originally posted by reamily View Post
        Samll usage foir Calvin oftana people should realize that his new tnt role was played by Brownlee so he must really paly loot of off ball and mix inside to see more productivity stat wise.. just dont hesiatte to take open shots is my advice..
        And improve his perimeter defense. We don't have many perimeter defenders, and defense is crucial at the wing.

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        • Originally posted by zairex View Post

          I rewatch the 4th quarter and they still do drop coverage when JF is on the floor. The time they were switch everything and man to man is when Japeth was on the floor

          I notice their favorite play of Turkey was bringing their SG from the weakside all the way to the strong side. Putting CJ, Justin or Dwight on multiple screens so they will log behind. Then putting JF on the strong side so when the SG recieve the ball its a catch and shoot situation. JF was on drop coverage and was late to cover the SG.
          You watched a 4th quarter and you already made a conclusion. Watch the whole Mustangs game and the rest of yesterday's game. Better yet, also watch Yeshkel's recent video, he explained it in layman's terms.

          Just like any team in any game, they employed different types of defenses.

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          • Kai is very stubborn. Kai has to learn to jump just straight up with arms raise when going for the block and defending. He needs to watch Chet and Wemby or even Edu how they defend, they just jump nd raise there arms. He does not need to push, handcheck or shove the player he is defending. He has a very long arms and can jump high so, use it.
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            • Originally posted by Metta View Post

              You watched a 4th quarter and you already made a conclusion. Watch the whole Mustangs game and the rest of yesterday's game. Better yet, also watch Yeshkel's recent video, he explained it in layman's terms.

              Just like any team in any game, they employed different types of defenses.
              I watch both games in full and rewatch some parts but focus more on Turkey as it closer to our opponents in OQT than other opponent. I don't compare our game with Taiwan and HK as they don't also not near the talent levels. But I do still watch then to see our plays.

              I don't give too much weight on Yeshkel as some if his analysis are not in depth like his play identification is not accurate
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              ​I believe more on analysis of Bakits.

              I am open to discuss any mistake I make in my own analysis
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              • Originally posted by zairex View Post

                I watch both games in full and rewatch some parts but focus more on Turkey as it closer to our opponents in OQT than other opponent. I don't compare our game with Taiwan and HK as they don't also not near the talent levels. But I do still watch then to see our plays.

                I don't give too much weight on Yeshkel as some if his analysis are not in depth like his play identification is not accurate
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                ​I believe more on analysis of Bakits.

                I am open to discuss any mistake I make in my own analysis
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                Yeshkel's video is worthwhile because he edited it with slow motion to easily see what D I was talking about.

                Now I remember, you're the guy who said Japan was nothing compared to us before the World Cup and that their national program's emphasis on shooting/pace and space won't amount to much. I also remember explaining to you how a 2-3 zone is easily busted by a team with shooters (something a high school player already knows).

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                • Originally posted by yogaflame View Post
                  Kai is very stubborn. Kai has to learn to jump just straight up with arms raise when going for the block and defending. He needs to watch Chet and Wemby or even Edu how they defend, they just jump nd raise there arms. He does not need to push, handcheck or shove the player he is defending. He has a very long arms and can jump high so, use it.
                  I also wonder about that. He does bring down his hands alot or raise one hand rather than two.

                  It could be just a habit but he has been training with US trainer and they could have advise him to be large in defense. I have seen a trainer said to Kai that he don't know how tall he actually is and can easily intimidate opponents by jumping straight up.

                  I have a theory that he might be protecting his mid section by arm bar to soften blow from big opponents. He had two incident in BLeague were he got hut in mid section and was taken out immediately and only came back in half time.

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                  • Originally posted by Metta View Post

                    Yeshkel's video is worthwhile because he edited it with slow motion to easily see what D I was talking about.

                    Now I remember, you're the guy who said Japan was nothing compared to us before the World Cup and that their national program's emphasis on shooting/pace and space won't amount to much. I also remember explaining to you how a 2-3 zone is easily busted by a team with shooters (something a high school player already knows).
                    I remember that discussion, I thought that Japan was going to do a Korean style of offense. One big in the middle and shooters all around. They dump it inside to Ratliff and if he got double kick it out to shooters.

                    What I didn't expect from Japan was to do like us, go dribble drive and beat their opponents by one on one. Not all the time but more Thant what I accustomed to see with them. Would you thought they will let their guards to do a Jayson Castrol play, one on top and everyone spread out.
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                    • Originally posted by zairex View Post

                      I remember that discussion, I thought that Japan was going to do a Korean style of offense. One big in the middle and shooters all around. They dump it inside to Ratliff and if he got double kick it out to shooters.

                      What I didn't expect from Japan was to do like us, go dribble drive and beat their opponents by one on one. Not all the time but more Thant what I accustomed to see with them. Would you thought they will let their guards to do a Jayson Castrol play, one on top and everyone spread out.
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                      Nah, you know what you said about Japan (and modern basketball in general), and I kept calling you out about it. You said to bring up mistakes in your analysis. Your analysis of Japan did not age well.

                      I also remember this because this is how you started then, seemingly level-headed. Then you turned into a full-on troll when you tried defending Chot against bashers. I wasn't one of those Chot haters though, I just remember how you changed. I'm pretty sure many here remember it.

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                      • Originally posted by Metta View Post

                        Nah, you know what you said about Japan (and modern basketball in general), and I kept calling you out about it. You said to bring up mistakes in your analysis. Your analysis of Japan did not age well.

                        I also remember this because this is how you started then, seemingly level-headed. Then you turned into a full-on troll when you tried defending Chot against bashers. I wasn't one of those Chot haters though, I just remember how you changed. I'm pretty sure many here remember it.
                        I admit I made mistakes. I never said that I don't.


                        What I won't tolerate and I won't do saying big lies, accusing someone of misdeeds without proper evidence and burner account.

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                        • We're talking about the "no-drop" defense. So the NBA ideal is switching defense. The general standard if you can't switch is to do drop defense. Which is not perfect but it prevents the drive and possibly the outside shot if perimeter defender is good at slipping screens. This is why I said JMF's laterals have really worsened after the leg break. At his fastest, he was even asked by Tab to switch. Mind you not drop but switch. After that he became heavier and slower. His drop defense was abused. He was abused in PNRs by Kazakhstan.

                          But still he was productive enough on offense. But now, his drop defense is so bad that it had to be simplified for him. No-drop defense. He just sticks with his man. The ball handler in effect has free driving lane to the basket. Which happened several times. I don't remember seeing Kai doing it. But IMO Kai should do the standard drop defense. He doesn't have JF's bulk or injury history to justify not doing a proper drop.

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                          • Originally posted by Rds View Post
                            We're talking about the "no-drop" defense. So the NBA ideal is switching defense. The general standard if you can't switch is to do drop defense. Which is not perfect but it prevents the drive and possibly the outside shot if perimeter defender is good at slipping screens. This is why I said JMF's laterals have really worsened after the leg break. At his fastest, he was even asked by Tab to switch. Mind you not drop but switch. After that he became heavier and slower. His drop defense was abused. He was abused in PNRs by Kazakhstan.

                            But still he was productive enough on offense. But now, his drop defense is so bad that it had to be simplified for him. No-drop defense. He just sticks with his man. The ball handler in effect has free driving lane to the basket. Which happened several times. I don't remember seeing Kai doing it. But IMO Kai should do the standard drop defense. He doesn't have JF's bulk or injury history to justify not doing a proper drop.
                            Yeah, the no-drop has the risk of allowing a free lane. There should ideally be a defender waiting inside. Usually, that's the tagger.

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                            • Originally posted by Rds View Post
                              We're talking about the "no-drop" defense. So the NBA ideal is switching defense. The general standard if you can't switch is to do drop defense. Which is not perfect but it prevents the drive and possibly the outside shot if perimeter defender is good at slipping screens. This is why I said JMF's laterals have really worsened after the leg break. At his fastest, he was even asked by Tab to switch. Mind you not drop but switch. After that he became heavier and slower. His drop defense was abused. He was abused in PNRs by Kazakhstan.

                              But still he was productive enough on offense. But now, his drop defense is so bad that it had to be simplified for him. No-drop defense. He just sticks with his man. The ball handler in effect has free driving lane to the basket. Which happened several times. I don't remember seeing Kai doing it. But IMO Kai should do the standard drop defense. He doesn't have JF's bulk or injury history to justify not doing a proper drop.
                              I just want to understand, is the play in the 00:58:00 of 4th Qrt a drop defense coverage.

                              14 seconds · Clipped by Zai Rex · Original video "Philippines vs Turkey Full game 2024" by BMTV Pilipinas
                              Last edited by zairex; 06-28-2024, 08:45 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by zairex View Post

                                I wondered why it did not work for Iran or China when a German and Serbian coach led them. Even Japan was not winning games in WC 2019 until their current coach which uses DDO and Iso not strictly Euro plays
                                I think China's problem right now isn't about its players not getting used to the FIBA or European style of game but its more of the Chinese players' shortcomings in talent. Chinese basketball has struggled in the last 6 years or so becoz of the lack of go-to-guy type of players in the team. I remember during the 90's & early to mid-2000's which was the height of China's domination of Asian basketball, they had players like 7-foot Wang Zhizhi, 6-foot-8 Gong Xiao Bin, 6-foot-7 Liu Yudong,6-foot-6 Hu Wei Dong. Those were highly skilled & good size players for their respective positions that they play. It seems current China national team hardly has these kind of players.

                                With regards to Iran, Iran basketball has been on a decline in the last 4 years since the retirement of Asian basketball legend 6-foot-5 wingman Samad Nikkah Bahrami & his partner 7-foot-2 strongman Hamed Haddadi already washed up in the last 4 years & is now retired from national team service as well. Right now, Iran is on a rebuilding mode with some good quality wingmen, point guards & "fours". I think Iran would still be among the elite teams in Asia, but it can longer dominate the way it used to during the late 2000's to mid-2010's.

                                I think to be a successful team, it requires the right materials & very good coaching. One without the other won't get the job done.
                                "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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