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  • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

    Then ask Tim Cone!!! It will not help your arguments over here... Are you better than CTC? If he thinks Pogoy is better than Heading then may magagawa kaba? BTW, I'm not Pogoy fan either... check your facts and check my previous post...
    Classic Robert. “Mas magaling ka pa sa coach” bs.
    Hahahaha. You’re really such a clown.

    Anyway, good thing that Pogoy’s Latvian VISA can’t be secured on time. Wew! He could have caused disaster for us down there, shooting us in the foot. Time for Perez to miraculously improve on defense and on taking care of the basketball. Making those open threes won’t hurt either. We’re in deep trouble if both Newsome and CJ are shooting duds and mishandling as ball carriers.

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    • Yeah the tuneup was nothing more than what it's supposed to be. It was competitive in spurts, but ultimately it won't change my mind that Gilas is getting blown tf out in the OQT. In this game vs the Mustangs, there wasn't anything I saw that convinced me this team is ready for high level FIBA games just because it was just a nice little show. Hopefully they figure it out in the tuneups vs Turkey and Poland or else the are getting smashed for us to see.

      Ramos is the standard that Pinoy players should aspire to play like... simple game, effective movements, and he makes open shots. JB got his one on ones and was cooking. JMF's active hands bothered Deguara while Kai seriously tried to match him strength-for-strength with hands up but was more succesful as help defender when JMF was there. Tamayo at this point defends way better than Japeth. Even KQ and Amos got run-ins.

      Hate to say this 'coz I'm a La Salle guy, but Newsome is the most important piece or this depleted team. He got players like Perez and Oftana involved... tried his best to stay on Lopez who exposed this team defensively... without him, no one else pushes the ball up court.

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      • was not able to watch the game last night. based on the comments here, mostly from FB and the vlogs, I take it fans arent happy? I think the most consistent comment I could see was we had poor FT%. some Kai fans wanting their idol some more pt. its a tune up game, so not sure why PT is a prob. outside the FT% its CJ thats getting a lot of heat.

        that said, i am sure we will get a bit better after the tune up games versus Turkiye and Poland. im not familiar with Poland but Turkiye should give us a really reality check before Latvia and Georgia. if we do well against them, we should be fine, and hopefully be in a position to pull the rug under Georgia. still a tall task but i think that is more realistic than Latvia.
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        • Haven't finished watching the game but that Gilas starting 5 has size. JMF, Kai, Brownlee, Oftana and Dwight.

          Trippy to see Oscar Lopez being a standout in asian circles. Saw him play and train since he was in high school.

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          • There’s obvious bias coming into play here. There’s always been a mandate to use as much pba players as you can. You would need to be Dwight , Kai good to be above that .

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            • Originally posted by Tuck View Post
              There’s obvious bias coming into play here. There’s always been a mandate to use as much pba players as you can. You would need to be Dwight , Kai good to be above that .
              Yeah because the powers that be are affiliated with the PBA. Just like the Ateneo bias during Tab's time. Even then its not that simple if what Snow is saying is true. Its the PBA's Bolick who is blacklisted.

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              • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
                Yeah because the powers that be are affiliated with the PBA. Just like the Ateneo bias during Tab's time.
                Originally posted by Tuck View Post
                There’s obvious bias coming into play here. There’s always been a mandate to use as much pba players as you can. You would need to be Dwight , Kai good to be above that .
                I wouldn't mind the bias if the players were good at their roles. June Mar, Scottie (defense), Newsome, JB now, and guys like Ange, Navarro, Dwight, and even SJ during Tab's time.

                The problem would arise when guys like Pogoy, Troy, Wright are favored. CJ is getting close to this territory.

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                • Originally posted by zairex View Post

                  Korean were better shooters. The difference is both Japan and Gilas 2014 we were not afraid to penetrate like how Jimmy and Castro did it.
                  I think that kind of offense worked because it was shot creators like Jimmy and Castro, this current team doesn’t have that kind of shot creation. Also I didn’t watch Japan vs Australia game but saw highlights, one of the differences is Japan has good spacing, they have guys who can shoot really stretching out Australia, also Australia I don’t think had any good rim protectors, but another difference is they had a Kawamura who can penetrate and score around the rim, same with baba. Early on I. The game as an example Oftana tried testing Deguarra’s rim protection and got his shot blocked, also another player tried(can’t remember who)and got blocked so this Mustang team had a stronger interior defense making it harder to penetrate and score especially since this team lacks ball handlers who could do that also the spacing on this team when Junmar and Kai were on at the same time wasn’t good.

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                  • Originally posted by IPC View Post


                    I wouldn't mind the bias if the players were good at their roles. June Mar, Scottie (defense), Newsome, JB now, and guys like Ange, Navarro, Dwight, and even SJ during Tab's time.

                    The problem would arise when guys like Pogoy, Troy, Wright are favored. CJ is getting close to this territory.
                    They are trying to make the Ravenas and chot the scape goat .

                    Scottie was awful in the world stage but he’s the PBA’s poster boy . It’s really messed up you can move one way or another with the management of a team but the same politics on a different spectrum will be in play. Tim Cone was pushing for Kiefer to be cut in the wc . Pogoy was basically a none negotiable as they didn’t want Parks,heading, thirdy or even Abando taking mins over a pba guy.

                    Pogoy was decent tho. He played well

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                    • Originally posted by Tuck View Post
                      They are trying to make the Ravenas and chot the scape goat .

                      Scottie was awful in the world stage but he’s the PBA’s poster boy . It’s really messed up you can move one way or another with the management of a team but the same politics on a different spectrum will be in play. Tim Cone was pushing for Kiefer to be cut in the wc . Pogoy was basically a none negotiable as they didn’t want Parks,heading, thirdy or even Abando taking mins over a pba guy.

                      Pogoy was decent tho. He played well
                      Yeah, Pogoy did make up for his poor performances in the past when he shot more decently in the WC. The only egregiously bad play he had was that stupid steal attempt against Angola.

                      I wouldn't really mind a lot of PBA players. Just pick the right ones, meaning the ones who have performed well, and the ones whose skillset can reasonably translate to the FIBA stage. Of course, age and roster balance has to be considered as well, and you may have to drop underperforming players.

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                      • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
                        Kristap Porzingis might not play for Latvia next month, Since doctors tell that he needs 6-8 weeks of healing process before to play again... That means he will be automatically out and I'm sure Boston will not allow him to join this summer... Luka Doncic might not play too since he needs some rest after grueling run for the Mavs this season... Lauri Markannen will not play for Finland this OQT.. Also questionable are Al Horford and KAT of DR... meanwhile Giannis will play for Greece...
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                        • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post

                          From Twitter

                          FIBA

                          Luka is back with his Slovenia ahead of #FIBAOQT

                          @kzs_si




                          Looks fit. It took him the whole NBA season up to the finals to get rid of the offseason fat just for the OQT. Priorities

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                          • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post

                            From Twitter

                            FIBA

                            Luka is back with his Slovenia ahead of #FIBAOQT

                            @kzs_si




                            This is why Luka is one of the most lovable persons in the NBA... Forget about his tantrums against refs... but he is one of a kind... Many think he might take rest, including American media outlets... He should be Imitate by all athletes... Love for the country first before anything else.... You can't see this in other ballers around the world (Cough Jokic!!!!)

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                            • Originally posted by Rds View Post

                              Looks fit. It took him the whole NBA season up to the finals to get rid of the offseason fat just for the OQT. Priorities
                              Did you know that he always more often watching Euroleague games than NBA games... He's more happy playing overseas than in the NBA... He just treat NBA as professional jobs

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                              • Originally posted by TheRodster21 View Post

                                I think that kind of offense worked because it was shot creators like Jimmy and Castro, this current team doesn’t have that kind of shot creation. Also I didn’t watch Japan vs Australia game but saw highlights, one of the differences is Japan has good spacing, they have guys who can shoot really stretching out Australia, also Australia I don’t think had any good rim protectors, but another difference is they had a Kawamura who can penetrate and score around the rim, same with baba. Early on I. The game as an example Oftana tried testing Deguarra’s rim protection and got his shot blocked, also another player tried(can’t remember who)and got blocked so this Mustang team had a stronger interior defense making it harder to penetrate and score especially since this team lacks ball handlers who could do that also the spacing on this team when Junmar and Kai were on at the same time wasn’t good.
                                Defensively it seems Japs is still better than Kai. Unfortunately both dont have a reliable perimeter shot. But guess what Mr 5 time MVP finally developing a midrange against higher comp 10 yrs after he showed promise in the WC. A bit late but still glad it’s coming along.

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