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Surely he knows abando, kiefer, heading..Philippine Malditas to FIFA Womens World Cup 2023
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And if defense is the argument against Kiefer and Heading, CJ, who got cooked by Newsome and Banchero, is not a good man-to-man defender, and is only good in passing lanes, is in the pool. Mason, a defensive liability, is in the pool. Pogoy, a defensive liability in FIBA, is in the pool. June Mar, a defensive liability in FIBA, is in the pool.Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
Mason and June Mar address bigman issues, though.Comment
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SMC/MPIC probably dont want to pay the insurance premiums of our ofw players (though heading is a FA right?)Originally posted by Silent Killer View PostComment
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heading currently plays here in nbl 1 with west adelaide bearcatsOriginally posted by CoJ View PostPhilippine Malditas to FIFA Womens World Cup 2023
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Like who?Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
Have you seen Stockton's games in the 2023-2024 Philippine Cup? That was a significantly improved Alec Stockton.
Do U think Stockton's game doesn't fit the FIBA style of game? I wonder why? The guy has a reliable 3-pt shot, better than that of either CJ Perez or Chris Newsome or Iskati Thompson, has good slashing, is a good finisher off the break& has a deadly pull-up jumper from mid-range. Stockton can also play defense. And the clincher is, he plays point guard in his PBA team.
Aren't most of us here been clamoring for a good size point guard in the national team? Well, Stockton is 6-foot-2 who can play that role.
Of course he has to tested in the higher level. Baka nga kasi sa PBA lang sya magaling."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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With Scottie out, can we still realistically add new guys?Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
I don’t trust CJ playing point.
Newsome is good but can’t expect him to play 40 minutes in two games.
Dwight playing point didn’t work out last time either.Comment
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I just don't see TC adding Stockton. He's a bit stubborn. Maybe he'll add a Ginebra guard is more realistic IMO. And unless something really disastrous happens he won't change his ways.Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostComment
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The last minute addition that makes the most sense is Mav but maybe Tim Cone isn't a fan. I don't think Ginebra has won anything with Mav.Comment
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Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
Tim Cone seems to like Pogoy. And will most like fit Cone’s system.Comment
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Well, most probably not now. But I hope somewhere along the way to the 2027 FIBA World Cup coach Tim Cone would consider other prospects especially since Gilas is thin at the 1 & 2 positions. Of course we also have to remember that some of the current Gilas members aren't getting any younger like Chris Newsome & Junemar Fajardo who I think are now both 34 yrs old. Maybe after the 2025 FIBA Asia Cup, both Newsome & Fajardo would retire from national team service.Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
The thing is, even CJ Perez & Iskati Thompson aren't that young anymore. They're both 30 yrs old now.
It's time that coach Tim & the SBP set their sights on younger guards like Dalph Panopio, Alec Stockton, Aaron Black, Migs Oczon, Clint Escamis, etc. as possible replacements for those ageing guards of the current Gilas pool."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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Quite ironic that coach Tim lost a point guard in Iskati Thompson yet he's replacing it with a wingman in RR Pogoy. This to think that Iskati is the lone natural point guard of the team. With Iskati out for the OQT & Pogoy becoming his replacement, Gilas is left with no natural point guard.Originally posted by The_Big_Cat View Post
With this development (Iskati being replaced by Pogoy), it is really becoming obvious that there is really a falling out between SMC & Robert Bolick. Imagine Bolick who is the consensus choice for being the best point guard in Philippine basketball right now is not getting any invite despite the inavailability of Gilas starting point guard Iskati Thompson becoz of injury.
Sino pa nga ba ang dapat kapalit ni Thompson sa Gilas kung di si Bolick. In fact people even question why Bolick wasn't in the original 12-man Gilas pool of coach Tim.Last edited by JAMSKIE; 06-22-2024, 12:57 AM."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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Fully agree with you broOriginally posted by Silent Killer View PostPogoy is one example that sure he's playing good in PBA doesnt mean it warrants a Gilas call up and expect the same performance. We've seen countless times on pogoy. People don't learn on suggesting players..
and now people suggesting stockton?Comment
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Inang Pogoy to. I for one suggests that Scottie’s spot should be filled with a replacement. But if it’s Pogoy? Lets just stick to 11 players. Bwisit.Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View PostComment
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kiefer, sj, rjay, dalph panopio, jordan heading, well even remy martin, bolickOriginally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
stockton is nowehere near on that options
let’t not deceive on his performance on recent conference
remember mike miranda was once pitch to be included for future gilas team after a good conferencePhilippine Malditas to FIFA Womens World Cup 2023
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This is just getting bad. Pogoy is not much of an initiator. Not a good defender and cannot shoot at the Fiba level. We are getting players who can neither defend nor score in Fiba.
As a fan Im hoping being served humble pie by Newsome and Banchero has made CJ consider the holes in his game as he says.
The only two way guys we have are Dwight and Newsome. And neither is a good outside shooter. We dont have another decent perimeter defender as CJ is worse than them and Scottie. Newsome will be outsized by the Euro wings and will be just a guard defender. Dwight will be outsized by euro wings. Oftanas perimeter defense will be exposed.
We dont have a tall wing defender. Our PF at 6’6 is a bit outsized and is our only decent “big” defender. Our prospects dont look good.
I would like to get Heading because he is a good shooter and fundamentally sound in other parts like defense and facilitating. But he is not a wing defender either. Navarro and possibly Malonzo are the only ones who are decent big wing defenders. The lack of big wings in the PBA is one reason. You need to develop tall wing defenders and I dont think there are other PBA players that fit the bill. You need to get from the UAAP and develop them.Comment
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