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  • Originally posted by greenarcher View Post
    Is that the final roster? Last minute hugot from 3 different leagues. Good luck with familiarity and cohesion.

    With the way Scottie has been playing in the PBA, I would have gotten Keifer or Thirdy instead.

    Amos has also been lackluster so far.
    Mason and Japeth was announced a long time ago.

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    • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
      I just hope that this roster won't get blown out by opponents

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      With Porzingis' recent injury, is he confirmed out for the OQT?

      Big boost for us if he isn't playing though the Bertans bros are probably playing.

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      • Originally posted by IPC View Post
        I'll just watch for the following:

        1. Have Kai, Carl, and Quiambao improved enough defensively, or do they still have work to do? As I've repeatedly said, AJ is our only reliable interior defender among the locals. The other reliable is JB, our NP. We will need Kai to improve to be decent at that in FIBA, and for Carl to at least be a good defender at 4, and Quiambao at 4 or 3 so that we won't be as reliant on AJ defensively.

        2. Can Oftana and CJ defend well in the FIBA setting? They haven't had the best defensive season in the PBA. Oftana is a good rebounder, but has gotten blown by in the PBA. Man-to-man is a crucial part of being a 3, which is Oftana's FIBA position. CJ's defense outside of passing lanes is below average at best. He gets blown by (see PBA Finals, where Banchero and Newsome routinely got by him), and

        3. Can Carl, Oftana, Mason, and JB shoot in FIBA? We will need shooting so at least the floor is spaced. We need these guys to shoot well. Support from Dwight, Newsome, and even Scottie and CJ is appreciated too.

        4. Can June Mar compensate for his poor defense in the FIBA setting? In the past, June Mar could compensate for poor defense. Now, I'm not sure anymore, given the past tournaments. Maybe cover for him enough so that when AJ and Kai are out, he can spell them long enough.

        5. Is having perimeter defense enough to compensate for AJ's absence? We have four good perimeter defenders in Scottie, Newsome, Dwight, and JB. They will have to prevent rim pressure so that when Kai sits, opponents won't attack the basket at will.

        6. What lineups will Cone try?

        7. How will our defense perform without AJ? Ayun na nga, AJ is our only reliable interior defender among the locals. So with him out, how will we do? What are the schemes to make up for it?

        Just watch how our players improve and grow into the FIBA setting. If we keep up, great. If we win, better.
        In the Asian games the Kouame less lineups sucked even with JB. Lets see if Kai makes up for it. I think JF can give more effort on defense with less minutes. But he cant be our primary center.

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        • Originally posted by greenarcher View Post
          Is that the final roster? Last minute hugot from 3 different leagues. Good luck with familiarity and cohesion.

          With the way Scottie has been playing in the PBA, I would have gotten Keifer or Thirdy instead.

          Amos has also been lackluster so far.
          This is the reason why you have a pool. Some get injured or play subpar, others can step up. Now we see Cones fixation on just 12 is BS. It’s just a way to exclude other deserving players from the pool. Now what if Scottie, CJ, Mason and Japeth suck? Will he again add to the pool? Saying his initial 12 was the best we have was BS. It is the best SMC has and it might probably be not enough.

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          • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
            Howard’s taiwan mustangs vs gilas exhibition match in Philsports arena on 24th of june 6pm manila time. Admission is free

            no cousins, howard and cook for mustangs

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            • Originally posted by greenarcher View Post
              Is that the final roster? Last minute hugot from 3 different leagues. Good luck with familiarity and cohesion.

              With the way Scottie has been playing in the PBA, I would have gotten Keifer or Thirdy instead.

              Amos has also been lackluster so far.
              But Thirdy is no point guard. Not even close. People point to his suspect handles as the biggest hindrance for Thirdy to play as point guard. In line with that, as I've previously said, current Gilas pool/team is thin at the guard line with only Iskati, Newsome & Perez in there. If one of them gets injured or becomes unavailable, malaking problema na. That is why I suggest we add 2 more combo guards/shooting guards in the pool - Jordan Heading & Rhenz Abando.

              Well, honestly adding a Kiefer Ravena in the pool isn't a bad idea. Kiefer already has the experience.
              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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              • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                With Porzingis' recent injury, is he confirmed out for the OQT?

                Big boost for us if he isn't playing though the Bertans bros are probably playing.
                probably the same line up that surprise many last year..
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                • Originally posted by Rds View Post

                  This is the reason why you have a pool. Some get injured or play subpar, others can step up. Now we see Cones fixation on just 12 is BS. It’s just a way to exclude other deserving players from the pool. Now what if Scottie, CJ, Mason and Japeth suck? Will he again add to the pool? Saying his initial 12 was the best we have was BS. It is the best SMC has and it might probably be not enough.
                  people are quick to defend about cone’s munting pool now when everyone is harping for bigger pool some people changes their tone about this..
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                  • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post

                    no cousins, howard and cook for mustangs

                    https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba/...feed_1_section
                    So who will be their world import?
                    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                    • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                      But Thirdy is no point guard. Not even close. People point to his suspect handles as the biggest hindrance for Thirdy to play as point guard. In line with that, as I've previously said, current Gilas pool/team is thin at the guard line with only Iskati, Newsome & Perez in there. If one of them gets injured or becomes unavailable, malaking problema na. That is why I suggest we add 2 more combo guards/shooting guards in the pool - Jordan Heading & Rhenz Abando.

                      Well, honestly adding a Kiefer Ravena in the pool isn't a bad idea. Kiefer already has the experience.
                      and you’re against with kiefer from the get go while everyone wants his inclusion because he is old. While some in the pool are older than him
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                      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                        So who will be their world import?
                        in the article

                        Even without the three NBA players, Gilas Pilipinas will still be tested especially in the frontline as Taiwan will be playing with 7-foot-6 Samuel Deguara, who once played in the Asean Basketball League.
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                        • People in ibn still arent used on drama less announce ment of final 12..This isnt chot era where he always want Gilas to be engage in different media (like your typical attention seeking vlogger)
                          To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                          1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                          • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
                            I just hope that this roster won't get blown out by opponents

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                            I don’t care if we blown by against them… Our main target is 2027 FIBA WC.. let them develop their chemistry as years goes by… we are not ready for 2024 Paris Olympics… just treat this as our preparation games… we will not always facing European teams every year..

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                            • Originally posted by greenarcher View Post
                              Is that the final roster? Last minute hugot from 3 different leagues. Good luck with familiarity and cohesion.

                              With the way Scottie has been playing in the PBA, I would have gotten Keifer or Thirdy instead.

                              Amos has also been lackluster so far.
                              Originally posted by Rds View Post
                              This is the reason why you have a pool. Some get injured or play subpar, others can step up. Now we see Cones fixation on just 12 is BS. It’s just a way to exclude other deserving players from the pool. Now what if Scottie, CJ, Mason and Japeth suck? Will he again add to the pool? Saying his initial 12 was the best we have was BS. It is the best SMC has and it might probably be not enough.
                              Honestly, I don't think we should drop Scottie, considering the composition of the pool. He's still a good defender in FIBA. Without AJ, we will need every defender we have. JB, Newsome, Scottie, and Dwight are our only reliable defenders so far. We need as many of them as possible to at least get our perimeter defense ready.

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                              • Originally posted by Rds View Post
                                In the Asian games the Kouame less lineups sucked even with JB. Lets see if Kai makes up for it. I think JF can give more effort on defense with less minutes. But he cant be our primary center.
                                We'll have to rely on outscoring the opponent and perimeter defense that prevents easy baskets.

                                As for June Mar, I hope we see as little of him partnered with Kai, Mason, Carl, and KQ. There's a risk of us giving up more than we score.

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