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  • Originally posted by xenoloxy View Post
    who do you think is replacing him in the pool
    will navarro
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    • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post

      will navarro
      makes the most sense, not a lot of tall defending wings with intl experience

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      • I think Cone’ s hands are tied here. Chualay and SMC in the end have a final say on which players they can pick. Aside from the international shoo-ins, Kai, Dwight, Edu, and the couple of MVP guys who pass the muster, Oftana and Newsome, the rest should be SMC guys. The injuries are testing his rule that he will only get 11 locals for the pool. Being competitive in the OQT will give his pool a lifeline. However if they fail, pressure is on him and Chua to add non-SMC guys to the pool.

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        • Originally posted by Rds View Post
          I think Cone’ s hands are tied here. Chualay and SMC in the end have a final say on which players they can pick. Aside from the international shoo-ins, Kai, Dwight, Edu, and the couple of MVP guys who pass the muster, Oftana and Newsome, the rest should be SMC guys. The injuries are testing his rule that he will only get 11 locals for the pool. Being competitive in the OQT will give his pool a lifeline. However if they fail, pressure is on him and Chua to add non-SMC guys to the pool.
          Thing is, the SMC players (including farm teams) who are good enough for Gilas are as follows:

          Guards: Scottie (Ginebra), M. Ahanmisi (Ginebra), Perez (Ginebra)
          Wings: Marcio (SMB) Malonzo (Ginebra), Navarro (NorthPort), Arvin (NorthPort), Javi GDL (TerraFirma), Brownlee (Ginebra; NP)
          Bigs: June Mar (SMB), Japeth (Ginebra), CStand (Ginebra; NP), Carino (TerraFirma)

          The guys from the mother SMC teams outside of Mav and Marcio are already in the pool.

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          • Originally posted by IPC View Post

            Thing is, the SMC players (including farm teams) who are good enough for Gilas are as follows:

            Guards: Scottie (Ginebra), M. Ahanmisi (Ginebra), Perez (Ginebra)
            Wings: Marcio (SMB) Malonzo (Ginebra), Navarro (NorthPort), Arvin (NorthPort), Javi GDL (TerraFirma), Brownlee (Ginebra; NP)
            Bigs: June Mar (SMB), Japeth (Ginebra), CStand (Ginebra; NP), Carino (TerraFirma)

            The guys from the mother SMC teams outside of Mav and Marcio are already in the pool.
            Man, this team is old and is only good for 1 fiba cyle if lucky

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            • Originally posted by CoJ View Post

              Man, this team is old and is only good for 1 fiba cyle if lucky
              The guards and bigs are pretty damn old.
              Attack
              defend
              Unite

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              • Originally posted by CoJ View Post

                Man, this team is old and is only good for 1 fiba cyle if lucky
                let’s see if they stick with no older players. but then again they recruited back japs
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                • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post

                  let’s see if they stick with no older players. but then again they recruited back japs
                  ...exactly why mofo's like robert the Saudi construction worker and his kind still cannot comprehend why the whole idea of a "core" was a bad one to begin with as opposed to a pool then make cuts. If they're just playing this game of favorites, they might as well call-up Mike Philips since he's an SMC boy (and will definifely end up in one of their teams after a lopsided trade next year) exactly like Malonzo years ago. He's probably as young as those players Gilas will face in the OQT.

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                  • Originally posted by paolylo View Post

                    ...exactly why mofo's like robert the Saudi construction worker and his kind still cannot comprehend why the whole idea of a "core" was a bad one to begin with as opposed to a pool then make cuts. If they're just playing this game of favorites, they might as well call-up Mike Philips since he's an SMC boy (and will definifely end up in one of their teams after a lopsided trade next year) exactly like Malonzo years ago. He's probably as young as those players Gilas will face in the OQT.
                    They would if they could. But he takes up the NP slot. If you're going with M Phillips there, then you will have no excuse for not picking Kouame.

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                    • Originally posted by paolylo View Post

                      ...exactly why mofo's like robert the Saudi construction worker and his kind still cannot comprehend why the whole idea of a "core" was a bad one to begin with as opposed to a pool then make cuts. If they're just playing this game of favorites, they might as well call-up Mike Philips since he's an SMC boy (and will definifely end up in one of their teams after a lopsided trade next year) exactly like Malonzo years ago. He's probably as young as those players Gilas will face in the OQT.
                      Because we all know CTC is not known for ideal Long list of pools... You know CTC is not a patience type of coach... You have to respect CTC's decision... As for the core, Everybody knows that the core of Kai, Edu, Tamayo, KQ and Ramos are the "Legit" ones who will be the long term of Gilas even post CTC era, atleast he add Amos on his list too... Those veterans such as JMF, Scottie are there to introduce the system of current coach... Every team needs veteran presence.. And that is the reason why they are there... They already proved that last Asian Games... Even me wants to pool atleast 16 players... Everyone who follow Gilas wants atleast bigger pool in case of injury... Maybe you not understand why CTC just want shorter pool...

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                      • Originally posted by xenoloxy View Post
                        who do you think is replacing him in the pool
                        Japeth, then Mason are Malonzo's replacements.



                        So our wing rotation will be limited to Dwight, JB, Oftana, and maybe Quiambao.

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                        • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                          Japeth, then Mason are Malonzo's replacements.



                          So our wing rotation will be limited to Dwight, JB, Oftana, and maybe Quiambao.
                          Lots of wings can be pick on.. and he choose japs.. tim is stubborn as you can get..

                          But no need for bigger pool right?
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                          • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post

                            Lots of wings can be pick on.. and he choose japs.. tim is stubborn as you can get..

                            But no need for bigger pool right?
                            Japeth was tapped due to familiarity with the coach and also because of Edu's uncertain status...Although there are many players who can pick... But can we blame CTC here? Until now Balti is grounded with SBP... Atleast he tapped Amos for long term...

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                            • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
                              Japeth was tapped due to familiarity with the coach and also because of Edu's uncertain status...Although there are many players who can pick... But can we blame CTC here? Until now Balti is grounded with SBP... Atleast he tapped Amos for long term...
                              Our wing rotation is a bit thin. I just said it. Dwight, JB, Oftana, maybe Quiambao. Dwight and JB are the only reliable defenders at that spot, until I can see Oftana be competent in defense again (he was a competent defender in the August 2022 window; he's getting blown by in the PBA).

                              As for AJ, he may be injured and recovering, but this replacement is specifically for Malonzo.

                              Sir SK's right, Cone can be stubborn to a fault, like Chot. I'm speaking as a Ginebra fan who watched Ginebra games almost every time they're on.

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                              • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                                Our wing rotation is a bit thin. I just said it. Dwight, JB, Oftana, maybe Quiambao. Dwight and JB are the only reliable defenders at that spot, until I can see Oftana be competent in defense again (he was a competent defender in the August 2022 window; he's getting blown by in the PBA).

                                As for AJ, he may be injured and recovering, but this replacement is specifically for Malonzo.

                                Sir SK's right, Cone can be stubborn to a fault, like Chot. I'm speaking as a Ginebra fan who watched Ginebra games almost every time they're on.
                                CTC is balancing between fans clamor and his big boss situation... This is not his control... Maybe he want a longer pool but only little of players are only acceptable both for him and for his bosses.. As i said i also want more players... But can we blame him? Actually i was surprised that Tamayo was picked because remember he choose to begged off for the FIBA World cup roster.. SBP might disappointed on his decision and maybe SBP will not tap him for that in the next Gilas iteration.. Even Ravena bros were not picked even we all know the Ravena family and MVP are in good terms... Even Parks, since he has good relation w/ Boss Al of SMC...We all know why CTC can't pick more players and we have nothing to do about their decision... If you look how many foreign based players were picked, It was Edu, Kai and Ramos are only selected because they are very necessity to the Gilas program.. Others such as Abando, Heading, Parks, etc... were not selected... Tamayo was selected just after he was released by his team in Japan... I'm sure from now, PBA and SBP might pursuing Tamayo to join PBA in exchange for Gilas spot... As Tamayo still undecided whatever he plans on his next chapter... You know the answer why only few pool members for this and we are nothing to do about that...

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