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  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

    We have no concrete evidence regarding this sir, but I honestly believe you're right about this. We know how the US as well as Western countries influences everything.

    Botttomline is, almost all pro basketball leagues have adjusted to synchronize with the FIBA calendar except our beloved PBA & as we are all aware of, this is among the biggest hindrance that keep us from forming a strong & well prepared national team.
    Don’t forget NBA… my dream is that NBA will give break for FIBA windows in the future

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    • Originally posted by paolylo View Post

      But again, my point is that... why do you think it's June, July, August, and September... and not Feb, March, April, and May as if it's summer-like here? Who controls and who adjusts? The IOC which will never schedule the Summer Olympics in Feb? Or FIBA who practically built the new FIBA Calendar around the 4-year Olympic cycle that didn't even budge during the pandemic when they held the 2020 Olympics a year later? They didn't pick the months to practically fuck off every non-4 season country, they did it because those Western Summer months is when most pro-sporting countries will be available to host and play. Was there ever a time when a complete NBA season went from Feb to September and just name the season by year (say, 2024) instead of October to late May the next year following a cycle of seasons (like 2023-2024 SEASON).

      In the PBA's case, it's the uniqueness of sharing venues and potentially losing profits to college basketball from September to December (if we stricly follow the traditional PBA scehdule, All-Filipino usually starts mid-January and they still go on breaks during Holy Week, off-conferences in May and between August to September, another break during the Holidays... then the off-season. Talagang lugi sila sa Governor's Cup when it comes to venues and it doesn't help that there's now Women's volleyball. In the unlikely event of qualifying for the Olympics, the PBA has to do something about Commissioner's Cup just to form a team. At least this season, that's over thanks to the World Cup and the Asian Games and they gotta deal with when to actually start the All-Filipino Cup.

      Their scheduling mess is easier done by an AI scheduling software that we use in the airline industry than in practice because you're not convincing the dipshits in the PBA board to have games in a crap 2000-seat venues with only livestreaming and no primetime TV coverage just so that this league with only a dozen teams play 3-4 times a week like during a finals series instead of 2 max and use the time saved in making time for FIBA Windows and tournaments instead of doing special seasons and cancelling entire conferences. Punyeta, wala namang manonood ng Blackwater vs Converge so why all those days off between practice and games? PBA teams look way more spoiled than those in Korea and Taipei. Japan looks even more professional than the NBA because they do back-to-backs in the same venue and it saves them time.
      Let's go back to our original discussion sir in which you replied with my original post with this:

      Originally posted by paolylo View Post

      I've said this before, June to August are western summer months. We don't have winter so the PBA has the prerogative to schedule the games however they want because they're also competing with the UAAP and the NCAA for venues.... the only problem is you look at a country like Australia with entirely different seasons but still chose to adapt to the western hemisphere knowing all their athletes aim to compete in Olympics and World Championships. Did the Aussie NBL have dumb shit like a special draft or shortening their seasons entirely para sa bayan? No. They play 26 weeks from September to March and during off seasons, some players sign short-term deals elsewhere like the G.League or even Europe... for the last 45 years. The PBA has been doing it longer but has been doing it wrong for the last 17 years at least.

      This post of yours strike me as if you're saying that the reason why the PBA doesn't schedule their off season during the June to September period is becoz we don't have winter here in the Philippines & we don't have the 4-season climate that the US & Western nations have therefore we cant expect the PBA to have the same calendar as all the other pro leagues in the world have. And I countered that I don't believe this is the reason since those Latin American countries have tropical climate just like the Philippines yet their pro leagues have almost the same calendars as that of the NBA & those pro leagues in Europe, etc. PBA calendar lang talaga ang naiiba sa lahat.

      I won't argue with you about what you are implying that the US & Western nations which had influence the FIBA in the scheduling of the latter's tournaments which are held during the July to September period becoz I honestly believe this is probably true. So apparently, FIBA set its calendar in synchronize with the NBA & European pro leagues calendar (we know how strong the influence of Western powers is), then the rest of the world follows except our beloved PBA.

      Everybody has adjusted except the PBA.
      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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      • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

        I don’t think basketball is a winter sport in US… it is also played everywhere, either spring, summer or fall… in US, basketball is the most participating sport, even outnumbered American football because of latter’s CTE.. it just NFL is the most viewed sport in US…


        You don't have to make assumptions, just google it. It's common knowledge. Football is fall, baseball is spring and basketball is winter. Soccer depends on the State. This is how american student-athletes are able to participate in different sports growing up. It's scheduled to optimize the weather for the different sports.

        And obviously, anyone can play any sport anytime. No one's stopping anyone. AAU/club basketball is pretty much year-round (except during ongoing HS season in the winter) and peaks during American summer (no school) when all major camps/tournaments occur. And bingo this is also when FIBA schedules tournaments.
        Last edited by Metta; 02-20-2024, 12:34 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Metta View Post


          Doing a quick google/chatgpt search will enlighten you. Football is fall, baseball is spring and basketball is winter. Soccer depends on the State. This is how american student-athletes are able to participate in different sports growing up. It's scheduled to optimize the weather for the different sports.

          And obviously, anyone can play any sport anytime. No one's stopping anyone. AAU/club basketball is pretty much year-round (except during ongoing HS season in the winter) and peaks during American summer (no school) when all major camps/tournaments occur. And bingo this is also when FIBA schedules tournaments.
          Maybe because when basketball created, it was winter of late 1890s… but remember, basketball like football (soccer) are always accessible in any season… Can play in summer, can play in fall, can play in rainy and winter season if your state/city has gym, or any indoor arena to played… actually in those 4, it was winter season that is hard to find basketball courts to play and hard to get sweat, any ballers will feel the same especially if you are living in the cold areas… try to ask real ballers and tell what season is very accessible to play… mostly will say summer and fall season…

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          • I'm more convinced that the most probable reason for the PBA not scheduling its off season during the months of July, August & September is that since that period is the off season of the NBA L, Euroleague & all other basketball pro leagues all over the planet, masosolo ng PBA ang Pinoy viewership. Pinoy basketball fans will have no choice but to watch PBA becoz there's no other basketball event to choose from. Although FIBA tournaments are held in this period, those tournaments like FIBA World Cup, FIBA Asia Cup, Olympics last for only 2 weeks.
            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
              I'm more convinced that the most probable reason for the PBA not scheduling its off season during the months of July, August & September is that since that period is the off season of the NBA L, Euroleague & all other basketball pro leagues all over the planet, masosolo ng PBA ang Pinoy viewership. Pinoy basketball fans will have no choice but to watch PBA becoz there's no other basketball event to choose from. Although FIBA tournaments are held in this period, those tournaments like FIBA World Cup, FIBA Asia Cup, Olympics last for only 2 weeks.
              With the number of times the PBA schedule has changed over the years, there's really no fixed off-seasons. Just mere turnarounds in-between conferences. FIBA will only take up less than a week every 4 months plus however long a Continental Cup or World Cup lasts depending on the year plus the odd SEA Games or Asian Games, that's less than an eigth of an entire year. I'm not suggesting the reasons why I think they can't adjust the other 7/8ths of the time is lame (some of it like making money is valid), it's just that there are a lot of ways to allow for better preparation in FIBA that will never happen because of how the PBA insists they are unique as if they're better than everyone else here when they're clearly an inferior basketball product.

              NBA-style rules and officiating, the 3-conference format, height limits on foreign players, the absence of home and away games, twice a week games being a norm... the scheduling is nothing more than a by-product of the league's incompetence... and die hard Gilas fans expect them to adapt? That ship sailed 17 years ago.

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              • Personally, I will be following the tournament in Latvia with Group A involving Georgia, the Philippines, and Latvia.
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                • Draw is on March 19. Winner of the Latvia OQT will be in Pot 2

                  MIES (Switzerland) - The Draws for the Men's and Women's Olympic Basketball Tournaments Paris 2024 on March 19 in Mies, Switzerland will be completed according to specific Draw Principles.

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                  • good thoughts. wont say i 100% agree but quite good argument ->
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                    • Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post
                      good thoughts. wont say i 100% agree but quite good argument ->
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH8eN5N2YeA
                      Not all countries has that resources that Lithuanians, Serbians or Latvians have... I respect their opinion and they are still competitive even w/o NP, but NPs are only key, especially for low tier basketball programs to improve their national teams.. This Naturalization spots are optional, If they think this is not ideal then they can not tap it, But atleast they have option to strengthen their respective national teams thru this and to popularize basketball more on those countries that basketball is just a niche sport... In the end of the day, Winning still important....

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                      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                        What's the update on Jamie Malonzo injury?
                        Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
                        From Twitter

                        GerryRamos

                        JUST IN: Jamie Malonzo suffered a calf injury and will be out 3-4 weeks @spinph @BrgyKings @barangayginebra
                        Thank goodness. At least we can have him back for the OQT.

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                        • IMG_0840.jpg
                          Preview of Team USA kits. How would ours look like? Hmmm
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                          • So ugly. Haha

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                            • Originally posted by greenarcher View Post
                              So ugly. Haha
                              At least their squad can defend now. The FIBA WC proved that positionless basketball is useless if they're giving up good looks on the other end. All those offensively-switchable parts before like Josh Hart, Mikal Bridges, Bobby Portis, Brandon Ingram, and Cam Johnson... imagine a zone defense of Jrue, Tatum, Embiid, Kawhi, and maybe LeBron. No choice for other teams but to chuck contested threes.

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                              • Originally posted by zuma169 View Post
                                IMG_0840.jpg
                                Preview of Team USA kits. How would ours look like? Hmmm
                                sucks that only team USA uses the old 4-15 numbering in FIBA/Olympics tourney.

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