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  • #16
    Lesson learned on how to build a champion team

    Denver switched out Will Barton, Monte Morris, Austin Rivers, Facundo Campazzo and Bones Hyland in favor of Caldwell-Pope, Christian Braun, Bruce Brown and Jeff Green over the course of the season. Essentially swapping out players who are more effective with the ball in their hands, for players who can defend multiple positions and be off-ball weapons. It elevated Jokic and Murray’s games, and strengthened their defense around their stars. They completely bought into the identity and it worked.

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    • #17
      18 years old James Nnaji is the 3rd best Center in the 2023 NBA Draft after Vic Wembayama and Dereck Lively.

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      • #18
        So all the drama surround Ja Morant's situation and NBA comm. Adam Silver give him 25 games suspension... I do think that Adam Silver is too soft regarding to this... I expected more than that, This is very serious issue and just only for f*ck*ng 25 games? It just like he was doing Load management for just couple of games, whether if it is w/ pay or w/o pay.....

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        • #19
          Twenty (20) green room invites for players invited to attend the 2023 NBA Draft with their families. The list also coincides with ESPN’s Top 20 out of 100 prospects for the draft

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          • #20
            The Spurs situation is they have 6 mid 1st round draft picks in next 3 years . Obviously they can't sign all of them , so they need to consolidate those via trade to trade up to around top 9 to 12 in next 3 drafts . (3 picks) to form 7 man core together with Wemby, Sochan, Vaseel and Keldon

            The target for this draft is a PG, hopefully Cason Wallace or Kobe Bufkin. they have the 33rd pick , Malaki (9th best rookie 2022) and Graham as trading pieces to trade up to 12 to 15th

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            • #21
              chris paul, shamet and a couple of future picks traded to was for bradley beal. Chris Paul expected to be waived or traded by Was

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              • #22
                Can Beal co exist with Booker ?

                Baka KD and Beal will be relegated to standing in the corner LOL​

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                  Can Beal co exist with Booker ?

                  Baka KD and Beal will be relegated to standing in the corner LOL​
                  Not bad IMO. Paul was not taking them anywhere. Question is who is playing PG?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Rds View Post

                    Not bad IMO. Paul was not taking them anywhere. Question is who is playing PG?
                    same question, who’s playing point, plus Suns’ depth is now messed up, lost a lot of pieces for Durant and Beal. And Ayton might be on his way out

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                      The target for this draft is a PG, hopefully Cason Wallace or Kobe Bufkin. they have the 33rd pick , Malaki (9th best rookie 2022) and Graham as trading pieces to trade up to 12 to 15th
                      no love for Brandin Podziemski who Sochan called out to play with him for the Polish team?
                      you guys can resign Jones, have Graham and Wesley. you also have cap space to get FVV or even Harden if you wanted. im not really sure with PGs of this class outside of Scoot and Amen.

                      WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES

                      P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
                      SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAAN

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by CoJ View Post

                        same question, who’s playing point, plus Suns’ depth is now messed up, lost a lot of pieces for Durant and Beal. And Ayton might be on his way out
                        Point Book. that has been used since Coach Earl Watson i think. it isnt used extensively because Book's scoring goes down and noone can pick it up if it happens. both Book and Beal has shown ability to run the point and able playmakers. except..... neither has played lead guard for extended mins let alone games.

                        Trading is interesting. Beal only agreed to be traded because he demanded to go to Phx and play with Durant, Book, and DA. obviously, his nontrade clause has 0 bearing if he isnt being traded. but will trading DA make Beal disgruntled without even playing a single game? DA needs to go imo. Coach Frank Vogel is a D guy and the owner just gave him 3 offensive players. and DA's D starts and ends with his length. i wonder what teams will give up for him. Suns can just stick with these 4, cam payne and resign londale, craig, and wainwright.then its praying the vets who are ring chasing sign for vet min.
                        WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES

                        P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
                        SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAAN

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post
                          no love for Brandin Podziemski who Sochan called out to play with him for the Polish team?
                          you guys can resign Jones, have Graham and Wesley. you also have cap space to get FVV or even Harden if you wanted. im not really sure with PGs of this class outside of Scoot and Amen.

                          we can be patient , i don't think Wemby will be ready to carry a team for a deep playoff run until 2 years from now, so super reluctant to spend on high price FA now, i'd rather have a young new PG grow with Wemby and be productive 2 or 3 years from now. that trio of existing PGs ( tre) are at best bench PG's . ( ive no trust in them) ..
                          And besides after 2 years if these drafted players don't pan out , then that's the time to lose patience and open the check book for high paying FA. no way we spend now on CP3 or van fleet , in development stage of build up...

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post

                            Point Book. that has been used since Coach Earl Watson i think. it isnt used extensively because Book's scoring goes down and noone can pick it up if it happens. both Book and Beal has shown ability to run the point and able playmakers. except..... neither has played lead guard for extended mins let alone games.

                            Trading is interesting. Beal only agreed to be traded because he demanded to go to Phx and play with Durant, Book, and DA. obviously, his nontrade clause has 0 bearing if he isnt being traded. but will trading DA make Beal disgruntled without even playing a single game? DA needs to go imo. Coach Frank Vogel is a D guy and the owner just gave him 3 offensive players. and DA's D starts and ends with his length. i wonder what teams will give up for him. Suns can just stick with these 4, cam payne and resign londale, craig, and wainwright.then its praying the vets who are ring chasing sign for vet min.
                            Vogel said that his goal was to get Ayton back to all-star level. We can debate if he was ever at all but I take Vogel's words as is. Having a motivated Ayton will help Suns a lot. If a 6'9 Bam was decent in defending Jokic, 7' Ayton can do a much better job if he has his head straight.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Rds View Post

                              Vogel said that his goal was to get Ayton back to all-star level. We can debate if he was ever at all but I take Vogel's words as is. Having a motivated Ayton will help Suns a lot. If a 6'9 Bam was decent in defending Jokic, 7' Ayton can do a much better job if he has his head straight.
                              as a suns fan, i remember small details on where the team is rosterwise. I keep seeing different posters from different outlet that Suns HAVE to trade DA because they dont have the capability to sign players to fill the roster. right and wrong, right that they wont be able to sign non-min vet players and or undrafted players to 2-way contracts or whoever is eligible to that. wrong, because although Suns only has 6 guaranteed contracts now (KD\Book\DA\Beal\Payne and goodwin who is now part of the Beal deal) they have bird rights to Londale, Craig, Wainright, okogie, bazley, and Biyombo. i can see teams offering money to probably londale and okogie. but it wont be much either.so in the event all these players sign back thats 12 players already. TJ Warren and Terrence Ross are UFA that was not able to play much last season because they came in late and Coach Monty didnt really give them a chance. it might not happen, but they or one of them, could just sign back in for min too see how it goes after a full season. thats 13-14 players already and we havent used our mid level exception yet. and if I remember correctly, the trade where we gave away Saric gave us a 5million TPE. and so far, the only min vet i mentioned are Warren and Ross. yes, that isnt "deep" enough for a playoff push, but we dont need to. we just need warm bodies to get into playoffs, and we will operate with 7-8 players from there. if Bazley and Okogie becomes consistently useful, then the 6 guaranteed players plus these 2 gives us 8 players for playoffs.
                              WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES

                              P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
                              SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAAN

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by CoJ View Post
                                chris paul, shamet and a couple of future picks traded to was for bradley beal. Chris Paul expected to be waived or traded by Was
                                Good trade for the Suns. Though his skillset kinda overlaps with Booker's and in all honesty he's like a slightly poor man's version of him. It was Beal who made the trade possible, for Washington it's all about not paying him the remainder of his contract.

                                Now I'm curious how they're going to round up their roster. Ayton was big when they defeated the nuggets 2 years ago but he kinda stopped trying once he signed his new contract. Will they ship him out for less expensive pieces?

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