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Originally posted by IPC
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I based my analysis from the recent FIBA Asia U-16 Championship tournament format which I think is the same as the tournament format of the ongoing Asian Games
"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV -
the format for Asian games is same as FIBA Asia cup… if Gilas tops the group, they are automatically qualify for QF… if not, they will play in play in game for QF…Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
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Tough luck for Margielyn as she failed to defend her gold
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I based my analysis from the recent FIBA Asia U-16 Championship tournament format which I think is the same as the tournament format of the ongoing Asian GamesOriginally posted by IPC View Post
here was the grouping & the placing of the teams after the elims of the recent Asia U-16 tournament:
Group A
Australia
India
Lebanon
Group B
Japan
Iran
Qatar
Group C
NZ
Jordan
Korea
Group D
China
Phi
Malaysia
Here are the groupings of the ongoing Asian Games:
Group A
Iran
Saudi
Kazakhstan
UAE
Group B
China
Taiwan
Mongolia
Hong-Kong
Group C
Jordan
Phi
Bahrain
Thai
Group D
Korea
Japan
Qatar
Indonesia
Let's make a hypothetical scenario in which Gilas emerges as the No. 2 team of Group C. Now since Gilas is in Group C in the Asiad, it takes the situation of Jordan in the recent Asia U-16 tournament (Jordan emerged as Group C's No. 2 team in the U-16). Jordan faced the No. 3 team of Group C & after it won that game, it faced Australia (being the No. 1 of Group A) in the quarterfinals. It turned out that Australia beat Jordan in the quarterfinals. Guess who Australia faced in the semis? Its the Philippines who beat Japan (the No. 1 team of Group B.)
In the Asian Games, who is expected to be the No. 1 team of Group B? China, di ba?
Of course we are just talking here of the most likely scenarios.
"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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Gilas women wins vs Kazakhstan 83-69… their next assignment is against Hong Kong… another warm up game before facing tough Japan team… but I don’t get in the women's side how they will pair the QF matches after the prelims? Aside from top 2 in each group, only 2 3rd seeded team will advance… Still unknown who will gilas women face if in case they will reach the QF… one thing for sure for me, avoiding Korea, Japan and China should be the prayer for coach Pat to have a chance reaching semifinals… if not, then sorry for them.. for sure China, Japan and Korea will be the top 3 seeded teams…Comment
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Gilas Womens 83 - Kazakhstan 59
Janine Pontejos 21pts 7/13 3pt,
Jack Animam 9pts 12rebsComment
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@IPC
Now if for instance, Gilas tops Group C, it will face the winner of A2 vs. B3 game as its quarterfinal opponent. Now in that scenario, Gilas takes the situation of New Zealand in the Asian U-16 in which it emerged as the No.1 team of Group C. NZ faced the winner of of A2 (India) vs. B3 (Qatar) in the quarterfinals & after NZ beat Qatar in the quarters, guess which team NZ faced in the semis? It was Group D No. 1 team China.
Which means that if Gilas wud top Group C & subdues its quarterfinal opponent, it will face Group D's most likely No. 1 team which is Korea. Unless of course Korea gets beaten in the quarters.Last edited by JAMSKIE; 09-27-2023, 11:54 AM."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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Nope bro… the format is A vs D and B vs C in the semis… check this Asian games websiteOriginally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
edit: I read it carefully, Jamskie is right… when I look again the website.. it’s A and B in the first bracket and C and D in the 2nd bracket… my bad… so that means we have to win vs Jordan to avoid China until finals… it’s better to face China in the finals than in semis…Last edited by Giannis34GOD; 09-27-2023, 12:03 PM.Comment
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Ah OK. So it's different pala to the format of 2023 Asian U-16 tournament pag dating sa semis.Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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Actually you nailed it… I read the competition website… A and B bracket will be in first bracket (game 29 and 30) and C and D are (games 31 and 32) in the QF.. that means we need to win vs Jordan to avoid China in semis.. If we lose to Jordan, we will go to A and B bracketOriginally posted by JAMSKIE View PostComment
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Gilas Mens 3x3 still undefeated after 3 games
A win over Mongolia on Friday would complete a sweep for Gilas and an outright berth in the knockout stage.
After the Philippines, running second in Group A is Chinese Taipei (2-1), Mongolia (1-1), Jordan (0-2) and Hong Kong (0-2).
The top team in each group will automatically earn a quarterfinal slot, while the next two teams will make it to the qualifications where the four other quarterfinalists will be determined.
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TIL, the Men's 3X3 Tournament is restricted to U-23 playersOriginally posted by hmbopbaduwap View PostComment
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Gilas will be a tired team in the semifinals if we go the difficult path as the qualification to qf, quarters and semifinals will be no break...To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.Comment
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It will be easy sailing for Gilas against the Thais today but it will be a see-saw against Jordan on Saturday. A dogfight, a pitch battle that an outcome could be decided on how tenacious the winner can be. It could be like Gilas-Dominicana type of match…
Starting unit of Jordan :
SF - RHJ 6”7” (no further intro)
PF/C - Ahmad Al-Dwairi (aka Ahmet Deverioglu) 6”11” Turkish-Jordanian who won Euroleague championship with Fenerbahce in 2017.
PF/C - John Bohannon 6”11” NP played with G-League, NZ-NBL and Kaohsiung where he team-up with J.Brickman. He is a product of NCAA Div I UTEP.
SG - Sami Bzai 6”3” American-Jordanian from US NCAA Div2 SE Oklahoma State
PG - Fadi Mustafa (aka Freddie Ibrahim) 6”3” Canadian- Jordanian from US NCAA Div2 Tampa
take notice all of Jordan’s starters honed their basketball abroad. No home grown. The reality of internationalisation of basketball. Without borders it should be like that. Maybe unfair to many but our world is changing…Last edited by FilWelsh; 09-27-2023, 09:53 PM.Comment
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Nah! Its just 1 extra game if we finish 2nd in Group C & it's against a light opponent, either Qatar or Indonesia. In fact I see Gilas benefiting from that 1 extra game as it could further improve the team's chemistry & assimilation with the triangle offense, especially among the 5 late replacements - Ross, Lassiter, Tolentino, Perez, Alas.Originally posted by reamily View Post
Key players like Brownlee, Junmar, Kouame, Perez should just be given limited playing in that extra 1 game - qualification to the quarterfinals game."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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