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  • Originally posted by insulares View Post
    Chot Reyes' best recent coaching moves? Moving aside.

    Moved aside from TnT. JoLas subbed and won a crown.

    Moved aside from NT. Cone subbed and won a crown.

    Things ain't broke now, so don't fix it!

    SBP: "Hold my beer"

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    • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

      Count me in as among those Pinoy basketball fans who thought that we will never see a Philippine team winning the Asian Games basketball gold in his lifetime.

      It was during the 1990 Asian Games that I felt in love with Philippine basketball. So that was exactly 33 years ago. We all know that Philippine basketball's performance in the Asian Games hasn't been that rosy as it was marred by some disappointments & heartbreaks, the most painful of which was that semifinal close loss to tormentor South Korea in the 2002 Busan Asian Games via buzzer-beater 3-pt shot by the Koreans in a game that we would have won.

      Perhaps, bumabawi lang sa atin yung swerte for all the kamslasan that Phi basketball has suffered all these years.

      I salute the players, coach Tim Cone & the SMC management for this Asian Games gold medal finish by Gilas.

      U all make us Pinoy basketball fans very proud & happy!!!
      I started watching RP NT during the Centennial days and I remember it and also 2002 run like they just happened a couple of years ago. The prime Johnny A, Meneses, Marlou, Espino, Cariaso, Duremdes, Asi, Dhonts, Racela, Menk, et al couldn't get the job done back then and exited both edition's semis in heartbreaking fashions. It traumatized me to be an RP NT fan tbh.

      Then came the NSA shake up and the shift in priorities, gave us hope at each start of FIBA cycles and also for the Asiad but only mustered mixed results and is a freakin' roller coaster ride in itself with all the highs and lows over the years. If not for the 3 WC appearances, our program would not have regained any semblance of respectability in the global basketball community.

      ​​​​​​I hope this gold medal victory jump starts the long-term, sustainable NT program that we are all clamoring for here in IBN. They have a massive financial backing in their disposal and the sport-loving, albeit controversial, personality as head of the program now. It should only go up from here on out.

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      • Originally posted by JOI2dWorld View Post

        my parents was not even born the last time Philippines won the asian games gold medal, it is really a surreal feeling and with the talent that we have i dont think we will wait another 60 years to win it all again
        Yeah bro, i'm with you on this one. I am now expecting the SMC-led Gilas to medal at every Asiad from here on out.

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        • Originally posted by hmbopbaduwap View Post
          Gilas 1 og members Aguilar and Lassiter retires from National Team.. Thank you Japeth and Marcio for your services to the national team

          https://www.facebook.com/10004438752...2wG5hDrmz74Rl/
          I have nothing but respect for both of them. The OG gilas with Japs, Casio, Lassiter, Lutz, Tiu, Baracael, and Coach Toroman were the reason I started following basketball. I'll defend these players to death.
          #FIRECHOTREYES!!

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          • Originally posted by Chef30 View Post

            If TAB was able to develop Kouame who started to play organized basketball late, do you think he could have done the same to Kai if he stayed with Ateneo?
            I think yes more than no. Yes they did teach Kouame how to play. But Kouame’s height, mobility, humility and work ethic also helped. Chiu in the meanwhile still seems soft. He moves well on defense but is still on rebounds and in the post. Well he turned Go to a decent player.

            We saw glimpses of what he wants Kai to do. He would probably try to polish Kais face up game more. Maybe tone down his propensity to go for highlight plays instead of saving his energy to maxize his activity.

            Although we cant be sure I think it more likely that Kai improves under Tab. He wouldve been given the chance to work on his fundamentals and develop more methodically. Although Kai is a quick study it seems to me he couldve served well to train under in a more methodical manner.​

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            • Not only did Gilas win the gold, it also prevented a Middle East team from winning the Asian Games basketball gold medal. Its China & South Korea who always win the Asiad basketball gold medal.
              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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              • Its weird that as dominant as Iran had been the last 15 years they've never won Gold in the Asian Games, buti na lng China & Korea were always there to match them & now its ours hehe

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                • Originally posted by B L A C K S U N View Post

                  I have nothing but respect for both of them. The OG gilas with Japs, Casio, Lassiter, Lutz, Tiu, Baracael, and Coach Toroman were the reason I started following basketball. I'll defend these players to death.
                  It's the original "Smart Gilas" program that really gave me hope as far as Phi basketball is concerned. From a dismal 9th place finish in the 2007 FIBA Asia Championship & another dismal 8th place finish in 2009 FIBA Asia Championship, the Gilas-1 team of Rajko Toroman put Phi basketball back to a decent placing in Asian basketball by finishing 4th in the 2011 FIBA Asia Championship. The 2007 & 2009 RP teams both PBA-select national teams, supposedly the best players of Phi basketball at that time.

                  On the other hand, Gilas-1 was composed mostly of amateur players with some PBA players & a Marcus Douthit reinforcing the team.
                  "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                  • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post
                    Its weird that as dominant as Iran had been the last 15 years they've never won Gold in the Asian Games, buti na lng China & Korea were always there to match them & now its ours hehe
                    The closest a Middle East team could have won the gold in Asian Games basketball was Iran in 2014 (behind gold medalist Korea) & 2018 (behind gold medalist China) & Qatar in 2006 (behind gold medalist China).
                    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                    • Congrats everyone!!!!! So hard to sleep i had to take melatonin to be able to sleep because of the joy!

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                      • Imagine Irans Golden gen they cant win the Asiad
                        To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                        1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                        • From a FB post:


                          For Tim Cone and the 1998 Centennial Team.
                          For Jong Uichico and the 2002 Busan Asiad Team.
                          For Marcio Lassiter and the Smart Gilas Team.
                          For LA Tenorio and the 2013 Fiba Asia Team.
                          For June Mar Fajardo, Japeth Aguilar, and the Gilas OGs.
                          For CJ Perez, Arvin Tolentino, and the 23-for-2023 list.
                          For Kevin Alas and the Cadets program.
                          For Ange Kouame and the Tab-coached ACQ Team.
                          For Justin Brownlee, Chris Newsome, and the 2023 WC Team.

                          And most of all, para sa bayan -- GOLD!
                          - Randolph Leongson, @dolphtrythis

                          #AsianGames #GilasPilipinas
                          #LabanPilipinas​

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                          • There is a quote " “Victory is sweetest when you've known defeat.”

                            I'm back in internet basketball to congratulate our team and to share my happiness to all Filipino fans for this wonderful victory that we have waited for 61 years. All the pain, trials, suspensions, sorry loses( especially those miss free throws by Racela and buzzer beater three by SK was very traumatic), and politics in basketball we had endure througout the years has now bear fruit. "Thank God. Amen." Congratulations to Team Gilas Pilipinas and thank you for the sacrifice and hardwork. I know it's not a Fiba qualifying tournament anymore but this is very historical competition and old, and it adds a gold medal to our Pilipinas medal haul. Now let us continue to go up and win the Fiba Asia Cup and try our best in OQT to qualify in the Olympics. Let us set our goal to be number one in Asia and at least top 15 in the world no matter how long it takes. God willing it will happen.
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                            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                              Bro, just put it this way, 10 to 15 years from now, nobody wud remember that Japan just sent their national team-B in this tournament & Lebanon didn't join the tournament. What everyone would remember is that the Philippines won the gold, Jordan settled for the silver & poor China satisfied itself with just the bronze medal.​
                              But everybody will remember Japan who qualified for 2024 Olympics, not us… that means everyone else in the world still think Japan is the best team in Asia… we should be not contend that winning Asian games gold is the final nail in the coffin.. Asian games competition is not FIBA sanctioned tournament… congrats we won but we still not finish our mission yet… We won Asian games gold medal is already accomplished, But bigger battles that we should look out too, the 2025 FIBA Asia cup and 2027 FIBA WC… playing in the Olympics is still the dream of Filipino fans worldwide…

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                              • Originally posted by OverratedTabBaldwin View Post

                                Only a casual fan like you would think that Asian Games competition is comparable to World Cup. 55 active NBA players participated in the FIBA World Cup while this Asian Games had zero. I'm still having a cold beer and enjoying this win though because I might not get to experience this again in my lifetime.
                                I will be afraid that after this Asian games victory, our national team will no longer have the hungry to win and will lay down the performance post Asian games… we still dreaming on playing in the Olympics and the only way we achieve that is the best Asian team in WC… when Korea won 2014 Asian games, their performance dropped because they don’t have hunger to win games… they were disappointed in 2015 fiba asia cup as they finished just 6th place and still disappointing until now… we should still work hard to achieve the biggest goal of Philippine basketball…the dream to play for Olympic basketball in our lifetime…

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