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  • Originally posted by IPC View Post
    Lucero will come back to the Philippines to prepare for his NorthPort debut: https://x.com/naveenganglani/status/...603782266?s=20
    Northport’s (potential) Arvin Tolentino replacement. Not bad. They still got a squad with Lucero Munzon and Navarro returning after his injury.

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    • Originally posted by Money View Post

      Northport’s (potential) Arvin Tolentino replacement. Not bad. They still got a squad with Lucero Munzon and Navarro returning after his injury.
      I just hope the allowed physicality in the PBA protects athletic lanky SFs. In the UAAP you could not say that with how short but bulky guards like Cagulangan are allowed to be excessively physical without severe repercussions. I think the PBA might have seen the possibilities when you allow tall skilled athletic guys to move. Against BAD, it was only Malonzo who was able to matchup against their tall SFs. It is to the PBA's benefit if like Malonzo, they allow guys like Lucero to play their game without fear of getting injury because of excessive physicality.

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      • Originally posted by Rds View Post

        I just hope the allowed physicality in the PBA protects athletic lanky SFs. In the UAAP you could not say that with how short but bulky guards like Cagulangan are allowed to be excessively physical without severe repercussions. I think the PBA might have seen the possibilities when you allow tall skilled athletic guys to move. Against BAD, it was only Malonzo who was able to matchup against their tall SFs. It is to the PBA's benefit if like Malonzo, they allow guys like Lucero to play their game without fear of getting injury because of excessive physicality.
        NBA players who played in both the highly-physical era and less-physical era say the main difference is...

        The disallowing of hard fouls when going to the basket. Used to be, when you attack the rim, you will get hit/fouled hard that you won't be able to do it in a consistent basis if you're skinny (unless you're crazy and durable like Iverson). Guys weren't even required to go for the ball, they can use their fouls however they want. Now, the defenders always have to be going for the ball and cannot hit excessively. I think that's a rational change for pba to make.

        There are many other rule-changes but that one along with hand-check ban and freedom of movement is the biggest change in the nba.

        Now, laterals are so important because you have to defend with your feet. In Asia, I think this is one of the reasons why China is in a decline, their players are so bad laterally (no soccer culture). Would probably be the case with us also if not for our Filfors.

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        • Originally posted by Metta View Post
          NBA players who played in both the highly-physical era and less-physical era say the main difference is...

          The disallowing of hard fouls when going to the basket. Used to be, when you attack the rim, you will get hit/fouled hard that you won't be able to do it in a consistent basis if you're skinny (unless you're crazy and durable like Iverson). Guys weren't even required to go for the ball, they can use their fouls however they want. Now, the defenders always have to be going for the ball and cannot hit excessively. I think that's a rational change for pba to make.

          There are many other rule-changes but that one along with hand-check ban and freedom of movement is the biggest change in the nba.

          Now, laterals are so important because you have to defend with your feet. In Asia, I think this is one of the reasons why China is in a decline, their players are so bad laterally (no soccer culture). Would probably be the case with us also if not for our Filfors.
          This is actually mentioned in this video (around the 10:26 mark):

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          • Originally posted by Rds View Post
            I just hope the allowed physicality in the PBA protects athletic lanky SFs. In the UAAP you could not say that with how short but bulky guards like Cagulangan are allowed to be excessively physical without severe repercussions. I think the PBA might have seen the possibilities when you allow tall skilled athletic guys to move. Against BAD, it was only Malonzo who was able to matchup against their tall SFs. It is to the PBA's benefit if like Malonzo, they allow guys like Lucero to play their game without fear of getting injury because of excessive physicality.
            Originally posted by Metta View Post
            NBA players who played in both the highly-physical era and less-physical era say the main difference is...

            The disallowing of hard fouls when going to the basket. Used to be, when you attack the rim, you will get hit/fouled hard that you won't be able to do it in a consistent basis if you're skinny (unless you're crazy and durable like Iverson). Guys weren't even required to go for the ball, they can use their fouls however they want. Now, the defenders always have to be going for the ball and cannot hit excessively. I think that's a rational change for pba to make.

            There are many other rule-changes but that one along with hand-check ban and freedom of movement is the biggest change in the nba.

            Now, laterals are so important because you have to defend with your feet. In Asia, I think this is one of the reasons why China is in a decline, their players are so bad laterally (no soccer culture). Would probably be the case with us also if not for our Filfors.
            Well, Gabe Norwood has had 15 seasons in the league. Oftana hasn't been injured much, and he's still pretty good defensively outside the PBA. Will and Zav did have a non-contact ACL injury, which sucks, but I don't think it was because of the physicality they endured.

            In any case, let's just hope long quick wings keep getting encouraged, as in SoKor.

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            • Originally posted by IPC View Post



              Well, Gabe Norwood has had 15 seasons in the league. Oftana hasn't been injured much, and he's still pretty good defensively outside the PBA. Will and Zav did have a non-contact ACL injury, which sucks, but I don't think it was because of the physicality they endured.

              In any case, let's just hope long quick wings keep getting encouraged, as in SoKor.
              Oftana has been healthy. But I won't count Gabe. As far as I know for his whole career he was basically a perimeter defensive specialist who rarely drove and went into the paint. It is not only whether there were contact injuries or not. You rarely see 6'5 and up athletic guys drive to the paint hard even if there's just a 6'5 ground bound center defending the paint. We have lots of 6'5 and athletic guys, particularly Filfors but they are not effective for some reason. Then here comes bad with 6'6 to 6'9 SFs towering over our 6'2-6'3 SFs.

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              • Originally posted by Rds View Post

                Oftana has been healthy. But I won't count Gabe. As far as I know for his whole career he was basically a perimeter defensive specialist who rarely drove and went into the paint. It is not only whether there were contact injuries or not. You rarely see 6'5 and up athletic guys drive to the paint hard even if there's just a 6'5 ground bound center defending the paint. We have lots of 6'5 and athletic guys, particularly Filfors but they are not effective for some reason. Then here comes bad with 6'6 to 6'9 SFs towering over our 6'2-6'3 SFs.
                plus the fact that Gabe is a teammate of the player that plays too physical and a team that was well known for deliberately hurting other player

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                • Philippine Cup opening on the 28th, aside from the usual playing venues, (Araneta, Philsports, MOA Arena, and Ynarez Center) the will also be games at the Ninoy Aquino Stadium, Calooocan Sports Complex, and Ynarez Sports Arena.

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                  • Originally posted by hmbopbaduwap View Post
                    Philippine Cup opening on the 28th, aside from the usual playing venues, (Araneta, Philsports, MOA Arena, and Ynarez Center) the will also be games at the Ninoy Aquino Stadium, Calooocan Sports Complex, and Ynarez Sports Arena.

                    https://twitter.com/reubensports/sta...pis__-H5w&s=19
                    Wtf is the PBA thinking with having 2 different venues on a single game day.

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                    • Originally posted by Money View Post
                      Wtf is the PBA thinking with having 2 different venues on a single game day.
                      Actually, that's not a bad idea at all. 2 different venues could be a good idea if the PBA wants more games, and compressing the season calendar at the same time. More butts in the seats, e, plus you can extend the TV reach with another channel.

                      But 2 venues and 2 different timeslots, that's new.

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                      • Originally posted by Money View Post

                        Wtf is the PBA thinking with having 2 different venues on a single game day.
                        Originally posted by IPC View Post

                        Actually, that's not a bad idea at all. 2 different venues could be a good idea if the PBA wants more games, and compressing the season calendar at the same time. More butts in the seats, e, plus you can extend the TV reach with another channel.

                        But 2 venues and 2 different timeslots, that's new.
                        Maybe, an experiment about the feasibility of a home-and-away format.
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                        • Originally posted by hmbopbaduwap View Post
                          Philippine Cup opening on the 28th, aside from the usual playing venues, (Araneta, Philsports, MOA Arena, and Ynarez Center) the will also be games at the Ninoy Aquino Stadium, Calooocan Sports Complex, and Ynarez Sports Arena.

                          https://twitter.com/reubensports/sta...pis__-H5w&s=19
                          finally the PBA will be using smaller venues for the elimination round. Hope they can fill the 5K seater Ninoy Aquino Stadium!

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                          • There are too many good small indoor arenas within Metro Manila and surrounding areas.

                            Caloocan Sports Complex
                            Ynares Sports Arena
                            San Andres Sports Complex
                            Alonte Sports Arena
                            FilOil Flying V Arena
                            CSJDM Sports Complex
                            Bren Z Guiao Stadium
                            Batangas Coliseum
                            Dasmarinas Arena

                            PBA may explore into these options.
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                            • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                              There are too many good small indoor arenas within Metro Manila and surrounding areas.

                              Caloocan Sports Complex
                              Ynares Sports Arena
                              San Andres Sports Complex
                              Alonte Sports Arena
                              FilOil Flying V Arena
                              CSJDM Sports Complex
                              Bren Z Guiao Stadium
                              Batangas Coliseum
                              Dasmarinas Arena

                              PBA may explore into these options.
                              Just put the less popular teams there, especially in the small arenas.

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                              • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                                There are too many good small indoor arenas within Metro Manila and surrounding areas.

                                Caloocan Sports Complex
                                Ynares Sports Arena
                                San Andres Sports Complex
                                Alonte Sports Arena
                                FilOil Flying V Arena
                                CSJDM Sports Complex
                                Bren Z Guiao Stadium
                                Batangas Coliseum
                                Dasmarinas Arena

                                PBA may explore into these options.
                                this might also serve as a wake up call for the smaller teams to improve their respective fanbase. Or else be relegated to these small arenas. In a way competing with the UAAP, NCAA and concerts (weekends) for venues became a positive, production wise, a half full ninoy aquino or caloocan stadium is visually better than a half full MOA arena.

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