B.League (Japan Pro Basketball League)

[ARMIR]

Sir Armir,

very very unfortunate indeed...those Granpa need to shape up ASAP or ship out all together.

Out of the ashes,a new and a better league will be born.

[paulrenzo]

Sir Armir,

very very unfortunate indeed...those Granpa need to shape up ASAP or ship out all together.

Who knows. If what Tuck says is true, and Oceana players will be considered "Asian", then that can possibly lessen overseas opportunities for Filipinos, bringing more of them "back" to the PBA.

[BJ_Reloaded]

Out of the ashes,a new and a better league will be born.

Sir Armir,

oh dear, we may brace ourselves to a new horizon and a better air quality,

boss it's either nakakatakot or nakakatuwa the statement that you've posted.

[BJ_Reloaded]

Who knows. If what Tuck says is true, and Oceana players will be considered "Asian", then that can possibly lessen overseas opportunities for Filipinos, bringing more of them "back" to the PBA.

Sir Paul,

I stand to be corrected on this,

historically and technically NZL and mainland AUS was basically part of that greater Asian continent during the Ice Age era and latter part of it but due to the rising sea water and the end of that era they were separated alongside PHL, INA among others. In the sporting world theirs this so-called Asia-Oceania zone or bracket that was recognized by different legit sports body like ITF, FIQ, FIFA among others. we have to keep in mind that the Olympic of Asia (OCA) are slowly incorporating AUS and NZL but they decided to hold their horses for that moment because they are not cool on China's hosting of Hangzhou AG bec. of some political thing and the pandemic is still on it's tail-end, I won't be surprise if they will send some athletes on few events on the coming AG at Japan.

in fact the recent news that was reported, that Asean will eventually(?) or contemplating(?) to include AUS as a regular member of it's fold.

I won't be surprise..it's inevitable

Political landscape and sports landscape has(almost) similar dynamics.

[Sikatrix]

Id hope the BLeague open up for west asians before they go the oceania route

[hmbopbaduwap]

Off topic: Jaja Santiago joins the Japanese Womens National team training camp, huge loss for Philippine volleyball if she makes it on the team, but I'm happy for her as it will fullfil her dream of playing in the Olympics.

https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/jaja-santiago-joins-japan-womens-national-volleyball-team-training-camp/296405

There have been reports last year that Santiago, a staple in the Philippine women’s national volleyball team, skipped the 32nd Southeast Asian Games as she was at the moment pursuing Japanese citizenship.

Taka Minowa, the husband of Santiago who is currently coaching Nxled in the Premier Volleyball League, welcomed the former PVL MVP in a tweet but cleared that her wife has yet to gain naturalization.

“She’ll join the Japan national team training camp, she hasn’t get naturalization yet but this opportunity really big step for her dream. Welcome to Japan’s national team,” said Minowa on X.

[ARMIR]

Sir Armir,

oh dear, we may brace ourselves to a new horizon and a better air quality,

boss it's either nakakatakot or nakakatuwa the statement that you've posted.

Its at this point of Pinoy basketball players,that their skills are better off than playing in the PBA,they need a better challenge to take their skills to the next level.To think the PBA was the innovator of Asian imports at one point and they actually have a Invitational tournament,that's way ahead of EASL,they even have a two import conference where they penalize the top 3,to only send 1 import at a time vs the other team with two imports,forcing the resident local big men to take their skills to another level facing off against an import the whole game.The PBA went all the way down to the botttom compared to those days,just watching them in youtube,makes me angry

[Metta]

The PBA built a strong moat within the Philippines. In the process of building that moat, it got complacent, developed bad habits and stagnated. But the stakeholders didn't mind maintaining just the status quo.

However, due to lack of foresight, it did not see that the moat will not work against overseas leagues.

In a basketball league the "players" are the products. You live and die by the quality of your products. And now just a quick snapshot of the Gilas team shows that majority of the young up-and-coming players are playing overseas. That means majority of your (should have been) future best-selling products are now somewhere else.

The trend I see continuing is that the elite players coming into the pba will be the overseas ineligibles. That's why they had to loosen eligibility rules, talent had to come from somewhere. Whether that will be enough to keep people interested remains to be seen.

[ARMIR]

The PBA built a strong moat within the Philippines. In the process of building that moat, it got complacent, developed bad habits and stagnated. But the stakeholders didn't mind maintaining just the status quo.

However, due to lack of foresight, it did not see that the moat will not work against overseas leagues.

In a basketball league the "players" are the products. You live and die by the quality of your products. And now just a quick snapshot of the Gilas team shows that majority of the young up-and-coming players are playing overseas. That means majority of your (should have been) future best-selling products are now somewhere else.

The trend I see continuing is that the elite players coming into the pba will be the overseas ineligibles. That's why they had to loosen eligibility rules, talent had to come from somewhere. Whether that will be enough to keep people interested remains to be seen.

Because the moat is meant to protect from upstart local league,remember the days of MBA,I believed the PBA became creative in that era,need another league that have the money and knowhow to draft young upcoming stars and lure them away from the PBA and steal the star free agent from the PBA too,theri tv rights,,and start with SEA imports first and broadcast the games in their country, it will kill that league.

[Rds]

Off topic: Jaja Santiago joins the Japanese Womens National team training camp, huge loss for Philippine volleyball if she makes it on the team, but I'm happy for her as it will fullfil her dream of playing in the Olympics.

https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/jaja-santiago-joins-japan-womens-national-volleyball-team-training-camp/296405

There have been reports last year that Santiago, a staple in the Philippine women’s national volleyball team, skipped the 32nd Southeast Asian Games as she was at the moment pursuing Japanese citizenship.

Taka Minowa, the husband of Santiago who is currently coaching Nxled in the Premier Volleyball League, welcomed the former PVL MVP in a tweet but cleared that her wife has yet to gain naturalization.

“She’ll join the Japan national team training camp, she hasn’t get naturalization yet but this opportunity really big step for her dream. Welcome to Japan’s national team,” said Minowa on X.

She’s a big loss to us. Arguably the our best player by a wide margin. To me its as if June mar left Gilas to play for another country.

[BJ_Reloaded]

Its at this point of Pinoy basketball players,that their skills are better off than playing in the PBA,they need a better challenge to take their skills to the next level.To think the PBA was the innovator of Asian imports at one point and they actually have a Invitational tournament,that's way ahead of EASL,they even have a two import conference where they penalize the top 3,to only send 1 import at a time vs the other team with two imports,forcing the resident local big men to take their skills to another level facing off against an import the whole game.The PBA went all the way down to the botttom compared to those days,just watching them in youtube,makes me angry

Sir Armir,

In reality, when you grow older you tend to be contended on many things including goals in life(and s#$%x) that's the sign of being a Grandpa and Grandma.

[magic_chiongson]

She’s a big loss to us. Arguably the our best player by a wide margin. To me its as if June mar left Gilas to play for another country.

iirc she declined a D1 college offer due to homesickness or something. guess that's not the case anymore

[ARMIR]

She’s a big loss to us. Arguably the our best player by a wide margin. To me its as if June mar left Gilas to play for another country.

Well,the shoe is in the other foot,there will be more players gonna be offered citizenship to attain their ultimate goal to play on the big stage,we lost a grandmaster,an elite fencer,women's volleyball should lose alot more,its frustrating on what's happening there,you can only sacrifice so much when the other side is offering money,better competition,respect and even their NIL.

[k3ttch]

iirc she declined a D1 college offer due to homesickness or something. guess that's not the case anymore

Her husband is Japanese, and home is where the heart is. It’s just too bad, but this is the best for her career. At least we can say the PSC, POC, and LVP haven’t failed her the way we failed Maxine Esteban and Wesley So.

[Rds]

Her husband is Japanese, and home is where the heart is. It’s just too bad, but this is the best for her career. At least we can say the PSC, POC, and LVP haven’t failed her the way we failed Maxine Esteban and Wesley So.

I don't know how we failed her. Unlike So and Esteban, she probably has a pretty good income here. Of course it is small compared to Japan but I don't think she's a pauper here. I'm now thinking it might really be love. She's a tall girl, 6'5 or 6'6. Her boylet prospects here might not have been enticing for her. She had a pretty public relationship with another volleyball player. Her sister's husband is much shorter. Maybe Jaja had problems finding one here. I hope she's happy with her husband. Changing country and culture is never easy.