Kai Sotto Thread

[greenarcher]

Nice to see someone changing his tone. Haha. Finally some common sense and reality kicking in.

From "better than Chet/Wemby/Wiseman" to 1st round NBA pick to 2nd round NBA pick to B League Star to now "let's give the kid time to improve". Hahahahahahahahaha!

The goal post keeps moving as Kai's career progresses because the Kainatics are slowly realizing their expectations are overblown and unrealistic.

Better late than never. They will never admit they were wrong but their reasoning/excuses is enough to show they got it all wrong. LOL

[DAdmiral]

No denying the expectations are becoming lower and lower as each season passes. While that sounds like rubbing things in, it really is just reality..
Some blame the outcome on mis handling, while I believe that was a factor , ultimately this is on Kai, and maybe the thought that he simply wasn't that talented a prospect to begin with, honestly isn't that a possibility if you put Pinoy pride aside and viewed him as an American.

[Linusports]

I am one of those people hoping that Kai would make it in the NBA but the odds are against him. Kai signing with the Hiroshima Dragonflies for the next season in the B-League, for me only indicates that his management believes ( most likely) that no NBA team or G-League teams would sign him. Of course, I wish Kai all the best.

I believe that's not an actual "contract" contract, more like a Letter of Intent - whenever Kai goes back to B.League, Hiroshima have his commitment.


*IF indeed KAI pushes through at NBA, which league origin would reflect on his NBA Screen Profile?

Australia NBL - ADL 36ers
or
Japan B.League - Hiroshima Fireflies

[PeeZones]

If you think that my perception of Kai making the NBA has change, then your totally wrong.haha im just citing possible reasons why Kai maybe deemed inconsistent and why he struggles sometimes. Who would put all the team goals and burden on a 20yr old? Unless it is a bottom team who doesnt have any aspiration and all they do is showcase players for promotion like Wemby's team.haha Pagmaliiit stats ni Kai kasalanan niya agad di man lang minention na wala ng pasa.haha wala kami problema kung walang pasa 100k already in the bank and problema na ng mngt ng Hiro yan if they want to struggle with their plays when other players would ballhog instead of playing easy bball.

Kai will always have his opportunity to be in the NBA specially these days with the backing of Wasserman. It would be stupid to assume that Wass isnt in a hurry.haha Kai will be there if not this year but hopefully within 1 to 2yrs.

[DAdmiral]

Spin Sayson say they don't hype raw


The problem is Spin isn't even accurate on reporting on Kai's status , if he needs to declare, if 2 ways are limited , if 10 days are realistic for none US base, so they provide little accurate insight on his chances or lack of . . They simply report what the agents tell them, without any insightful journalistic takes based on investigation. It's littirally B like tabloid level reporting..

On contracts, just read on "out clauses", many NBL players have out claises for NBA call ups ..
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[magic_chiongson]

speaking of makur maker, i actually thought kai played better than him in their aau days. since then what did makur do right that kai (and his team) did wrong?

[thatweirdguy]

speaking of makur maker, i actually thought kai played better than him in their aau days. since then what did makur do right that kai (and his team) did wrong?

They didn't pissed everyone off at Ignite for one. Ignite was the NBA's baby and they were trying to compete with the NCAA in drawing in the top recruits. Part of the reason Kai was signed was to draw more attention to the team. Him just taking their money and not playing a single game probably got him blacklisted. Before he left for the Philippines Shaw was hinting at the press that it wasn't properly communicated to him.

[NightShift]

Yes in context of Asian teams that is NOT over hype casue Asian trams are winless.vs those same Euro teams since 2010.
yes not over hype cause I openly admit NZ will not qualify if in Europe, and consistently just plays beyond its weight (talent) in the WC to place consistently as high as stronger 2nd tier Euro and Americas teams,
Consistently for every WC and Asian qualifiers this century, NZ has placed higher than any Asian team

there is no hype exageration there, just super accurate. Just consistent better results.

To others my apologies as this is OT, does not belong in this thread.. and for being so so repetitive... which i understand is annoying. Sorry agsin .. as was simply replying to Zairex bringing NZ into conversation..

In summary
NZ is as good as advertised (Asian context )
Kai hype is false advertising (not a serious NBA prospect as claimed)

You knew it's OT, yet you still continue replying to him? Just give it up man, you don't need to reply to every post directed at you.

[magic_chiongson]

They didn't pissed everyone off at Ignite for one. Ignite was the NBA's baby and they were trying to compete with the NCAA in drawing in the top recruits. Part of the reason Kai was signed was to draw more attention to the team. Him just taking their money and not playing a single game probably got him blacklisted. Before he left for the Philippines Shaw was hinting at the press that it wasn't properly communicated to him.

but makur didn't play for ignite though. both of them played in the aau circuit, and then in the nbl where they have comparable stats. makur went on to get signed by an nba team.

[PeeZones]

They didn't pissed everyone off at Ignite for one. Ignite was the NBA's baby and they were trying to compete with the NCAA in drawing in the top recruits. Part of the reason Kai was signed was to draw more attention to the team. Him just taking their money and not playing a single game probably got him blacklisted. Before he left for the Philippines Shaw was hinting at the press that it wasn't properly communicated to him.

This one was a sound take of what really happened to Kai. Also, SBP should have let Kai have his ignite over that non important window
The pandemic also didnt help with everything. It is possible that is was the main reason why Kai wasn't in that Givony list.

A lot of NBA players used Wasserman to fix major issues with their teams and the league. EWP has taken the backseat and Wasserman is already the driver with regards to Kai's affairs. I dont even see any from EWP doing interviews regarding Kai these days. Kai with Wasserman is a very different package. Wass made Kai a Puma GLOBAL ambassador at age 20 and still not in the NBA.

[Kaireem]

This one was a sound take of what really happened to Kai. Also, SBP should have let Kai have his ignite over that non important window
The pandemic also didnt help with everything. It is possible that is was the main reason why Kai wasn't in that Givony list.

A lot of NBA players used Wasserman to fix major issues with their teams and the league. EWP has taken the backseat and Wasserman is already the driver with regards to Kai's affairs. I dont even see any from EWP doing interviews regarding Kai these days. Kai with Wasserman is a very different package. Wass made Kai a Puma GLOBAL ambassador at age 20 and still not in the NBA.

can you name those players with major issues with the nba that wasserman help make peace with the league and went on to play in the nba?

[Kaireem]

They didn't pissed everyone off at Ignite for one. Ignite was the NBA's baby and they were trying to compete with the NCAA in drawing in the top recruits. Part of the reason Kai was signed was to draw more attention to the team. Him just taking their money and not playing a single game probably got him blacklisted. Before he left for the Philippines Shaw was hinting at the press that it wasn't properly communicated to him.

that's what i thought too, having said that even that wouldn't matter if kai really has nba potential.

as long as you have real nba talent teams will look the other way even if you have a criminal record (allen iverson comes to mind) and draft you at the first opportunity. besides usd250k might be a lot to ordinary folks but that's chump change in the nba.

the other possibility is brian shaw probably doesn't have a good word to say about kai when team owners, gms and coaches ask him about what he saw in the player while he was handling ignite, and that turns people off.

[Kaireem]

Nice to see someone changing his tone. Haha. Finally some common sense and reality kicking in.

From "better than Chet/Wemby/Wiseman" to 1st round NBA pick to 2nd round NBA pick to B League Star to now "let's give the kid time to improve". Hahahahahahahahaha!

The goal post keeps moving as Kai's career progresses because the Kainatics are slowly realizing their expectations are overblown and unrealistic.

Better late than never. They will never admit they were wrong but their reasoning/excuses is enough to show they got it all wrong. LOL

the bleague stint really changed their view, they were expecting kai to be so dominant in a league with no real nba prospect yet he still got outplayed by both imports and locals alike.

and again its the same excuse from ignite and the nbl of kai's teammates not passing him the ball

well if i can't rely on my teammate to complete the play i won't pass him the ball even

[thatweirdguy]

but makur didn't play for ignite though. both of them played in the aau circuit, and then in the nbl where they have comparable stats. makur went on to get signed by an nba team.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. He didn't make the mistake of commiting, signing a contract, taking the money then leaving just before the bubble without properly informing them/ asking for permission then tried to force his way into the bubble in the middle of the pandemic where everyone are scared of getting covid. It was a reckless move that backfired big time. If Kai ultimately doesn't make it to the NBA, I'd pin it on that mistake.

[PeeZones]

We dont see Kai being outplayed but mostly teammates trying to lessen his impact after good games eversince when he was in the NbL. We could agree that Kai would be overpowered by stronger bigs but him being outplayed isnt really because he cant but mainly because teammates are deliberately trying to lessen the spotlight on Kai.lol if you see things the other way then it is your problem.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/261175/James-Harden-Hired-Wasserman-To-Facilitate-Trade-From-Rockets

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2934230-the-2-month-trade-request-how-james-harden-forced-his-way-out-of-houston

Also, do yourself a favor by doing your own research instead of believing opinions of those who clearly cant formulate sound takes. Those who believe that Kai went home because he was not given chances with Ignite were too gullible and cant formulate decent takes.lol