Kai Sotto Thread

[Juan Lun]

Moving on. I agree with was it Ja.He(?) who finally uttered it...Kai's lazy.

Everyone who has played any semblance of organized basketball knows that the higher level you go, the less playing time is guaranteed. This is especially true if you are a new player in the team.
So along the way you will learn and figure out how to get in the rotation and earn minutes. In all levels, if you defend and rebound, you will get minutes.

Defense and rebound is all about effort. You put in your maximum effort, especially at 7'3" and you will be effective in defense and rebounding. But sad to say he's not giving that type of effort. And coaches are big on "body language" and what he projects is someone who doesn't want it.

Good news is, effort is something he can decide on changing at any moment. If he wakes up tomorrow and decides he will not be lazy anymore, he can do it. It is something that can be instantly fixed if he is willing to.

To think that as a teenager, you should have abundance of enery and motor and yet Kai despite years of training and pro ball still was sub par in that area.. and now at 21, has regressed more.. i agree part of it is mental toughness (lazyness), same issue with Kobe P

[greenarcher]

To think that as a teenager, you should have abundance of enery and motor and yet Kai despite years of training and pro ball still was sub par in that area.. and now at 21, has regressed more.. i agree part of it is mental toughness (lazyness), same issue with Kobe P

Come to think of it, he really does resemble Kobe's stint in Japan. They both look lethargic whenever they are on the floor.

Maybe he will have the same path as Kobe. Division 2 then PBA. LOL

[CoJ]

Come to think of it, he really does resemble Kobe's stint in Japan. They both look lethargic whenever they are on the floor.

Maybe he will have the same path as Kobe. Division 2 then PBA. LOL

at least Kobe has a excuse, busy f**king chicks left and right. Kai probably is due to physical limitations

[DAdmiral]

that's so disappointing if Kai follows the foot path of Kobe,, ( not of course level, but trajectory , stagnant limite growth etc) , it really begs the question, how do we finally get one homegrown to develop and maximize appropriately, one thing i know for sure , IS PLEASE STOP the OVER HYPE EXPECTATIONS!!!. please lang not again.. or never again. these super young yet to accomplish prospects heads grow with instant crazy celebrity status. " like a teenage rockstar without substance yet "

some do not understand why Kai's trajectory is DEAD , and rationalize he's only 21 yrs old, well if we're talking NBA prospect, littierally the age 18 to 21 are like dog years (mutunplied by 7 expected rapid growth), double your productivity in 2 years or else you're littierally done .

[CoJ]

that's so disappointing if Kai follows the foot path of Kobe,, ( not of course level, but trajectory , stagnant limite growth etc) , it really begs the question, how do we finally get one homegrown to develop and maximize appropriately, one thing i know for sure , IS PLEASE STOP the OVER HYPE EXPECTATIONS!!!. please lang not again.. or never again. these super young yet to accomplish prospects heads grow with instant crazy celebrity status. " like a teenage rockstar without substance yet "

some do not understand why Kai's trajectory is DEAD , and rationalize he's only 21 yrs old, well if we're talking NBA prospect, littierally the age 18 to 21 are like dog years (mutunplied by 7 expected rapid growth), double your productivity in 2 years or else you're littierally done .

at ages19-21 the likes of Tatum and Luka were already established stars. While you have a number of high quality role players who started their NBA careers at said age-group. Probably the best way to get a homegrown develop for the NBA is to send the kid to the US or Europe as early as 10-12 yrs old so he would be exposed to high level basketball environment. Parks could have made it to the NBA had he stayed in the US for college instead of wasting away impt years of development at NU (but cant blame him for this, family always comes first)

[Silent Killer]

I don't think he'll ever be an above average rebounder. Nobody just wake up and decides he'll be Rodman. That's actually one of the weakness that I don't think he'll ever overcome. There are only a few times he recorded double digits in rebound. He can improve and be probably decent but you need to pair him with an active 4 otherwise we're going to get beat on the boards every game.

that’s why kai clicks with aj edu. an activity guy..

[paulrenzo]

that's so disappointing if Kai follows the foot path of Kobe,, ( not of course level, but trajectory , stagnant limite growth etc) , it really begs the question, how do we finally get one homegrown to develop and maximize appropriately, one thing i know for sure , IS PLEASE STOP the OVER HYPE EXPECTATIONS!!!. please lang not again.. or never again. these super young yet to accomplish prospects heads grow with instant crazy celebrity status. " like a teenage rockstar without substance yet "

some do not understand why Kai's trajectory is DEAD , and rationalize he's only 21 yrs old, well if we're talking NBA prospect, littierally the age 18 to 21 are like dog years (mutunplied by 7 expected rapid growth), double your productivity in 2 years or else you're littierally done .

You're speaking to the choir here. Unfortunately "Pinoy fried" will keep hyping up the next big thing.

[DAdmiral]

I sometimes think the 1st homegrown NBA player , will be some low key late bloomer, who just works on his craft silently. , and just does a boring role , like defense and develops a 3 pt shot late . Like imagine if a homegrown had the length and mobility of Norwood and develop a 3 pt shot like Pogoy. Perhaps Spo would give the role player a shot in the NBA

[ja.he]

I sometimes think the 1st homegrown NBA player , will be some low key late bloomer, who just works on his craft silently. , and just does a boring role , like defense and develops a 3 pt shot late . Like imagine if a homegrown had the length and mobility of Norwood and develop a 3 pt shot like Pogoy. Perhaps Spo would give the role player a shot in the NBA

Length and mobility like norwood and a skillset plus court smarts of RDO.

[DAdmiral]

Like Miami's Struss, that's a reasonable possibility for a Pinoy homegrown

[Linusports]

Xavier Cook's stats ages 24-25 as compared to Kai ages 19-20!haha Kai is even playing lesser minutes. https://nbl.com.au/player/3694/1427840/xavier-cooks
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Here is Aron Baynes stats ages 19-24!haha Sakit sa mata not NBA MATERIAL.lol daming rebounds ni overage NCAA player Aron baynes mga 5 against college boys.haha https://www.basketball-reference.com...-baynes-1.html

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Why then they closing asap that NBA door to a 21yr-old 7'2 International 2-year Pro-Ball Player?

*Can his stamina&strength issue be resolved with the "right team-right situation"?

[DAdmiral]

Why is his probability low ? Simple , Flat year to year progression ( trajectory in short) , given the exposure opportunity already provided ( Ignite, 36ers- over 3 years, 50 plus games, b- league 24 games ), that's 74 games already, how many more opportunities does one need to demonstrate rapid learning curve development ?

Cooks and Baynes on their draft year were also given assessments (and their assessments while not suitable to be drafted (lack of upside) , could still potentially play a role if developed further after given exposure they have yet received ( 3 years as a pro) , Kai on the other hand has already been given to excellent exposure opportunity for 3 years and has not responded favorably in those 3 years, ( his numbers have basically remained stagnant (no significant imporovement) while Cooks and Landale etc after each year exposed to top level traiing ( div 1, NBL , were continually rapidly improving , ( in fact Cooks was a former most improve player of the year) ..

people are neglecting the facts, that Kai was assessed multiple times with a super failing grade by authorities ( yes the coaches) 1. Ignite, 2. NBL front office, 3 36ers. 4, vote of all 30 GMs on invites. 5. NBA workouts.. it's not simply a case of going undrafted like Cooks or Baynes , but it's the super negative feedback ( this is time and time being ignored , but is given spin and an opposite narrative , that's it's not that bad... It's really bad confirmed , do note Kai wasn't only not draftted ( top 60) , but was not signed in the extra 20 two way contracts , so not top 80. worst not even top 100 ( based on invites ) , keep ignoring these factual info , compared to say Landale , he was actually offered a 2 way contract in his draft year but opted for Europe, ang layo talaga

again this is what people are neglecting : all those NBA scouts who decided on Kai and gave him a thumps down , have seen all the stats you are posting and much, much more, and much much more film and much much more 1st hand exposure workouts and still gave him a poor assessment

BTW in atats u posted on Baynes doubled his pt avg in college from Junior yr 5 pts , 3rd 10 pts , 4th yr 12 pts . People shooting themselves in the foot. .
then he entered the draft , then continued to improve after college . . Talk about misleading people again. Stop this nonsense lying misinformation

[greenarcher]

Why then they closing asap that NBA door to a 21yr-old 7'2 International 2-year Pro-Ball Player?

*Can his stamina&strength issue be resolved with the "right team-right situation"?

What does a "right" team got anything to do with stamina and strength?

These things are on Kai, not his team.

Besides, a team also can't force Kai to be a passionate energy bunny.

Excuses pa more.

[DAdmiral]

What does a "right" team got anything to do with stamina and strength?

These things are on Kai, not his team.

Besides, a team also can't force Kai to be a passionate energy bunny.

Excuses pa more.

and people ignore not just a few teams gave thumps down in NBA (for draft) and NBL (next star stuitable) , but literally ALL TEAMS said NO

[jasper222]

what gaze observed is what people here observed too before he mentioned it live in game.. because some people here are close minded about it.. to the point you call him moron..

is it you and some people here think he is nba talent now? is it before that you guys say “ah kai is 1 and done talent in US NCAA and waste of time if he stays longer”. while some people like me predicted he’ll spent 3 years in college and some of you laughed about it..

now when he wasnt drafted, blaming on nba for being racist, gilas call up and other excuse that i forgot. now some of you change your tone “ah give kai time as he’s young.. look at giannis, marc gasol and you guys rushing him up”

some of you change tone on that..

don’t make yourself clean.. you’re part of the reason why the thread is toxic..

You finally showed your true colors?

I'm not part of why this thread is toxic, this all started because Nightshift said I was blaming everyone except Kai after explaining my logic and reasoning. What in that post he quoted was wrong? Ignite DID tweak Kai's jumper, the one he used early on in his NBL rookie season. Bruton DID want to run a GSW-like offense. Dyan pa lang I'm not alone in it, but because I'm defending my posts I'm the toxic one?

If people can call Chot morons in other threads then I can call Gaze a moron too. Chot is what, a multiple time PBA champ and COTY? Truth be told he's a PH basketball legend but how many of us are in other threads bashing him for his Gilas work? Diba madami? But I'm the one toxic?

You're also putting words in my mouth. You're welcome to sift through all my posts and see if I said "Kai is 1 and done US NCAA talent and a waste of time if he stays longer." Because that wasn't me. Pero ako ang toxic.

I can prove your entire post false but I'll stop here since I don't wish to argue any further. Not because I can't prove myself, I can, but because anything I say will be misconstrued as toxicity as a way to keep me quiet. The "You're not on my side therefore everything you say is wrong" playground logic, despite being all adults here, to the point of attributing to me stuff that I never said.

Moving on. I agree with was it Ja.He(?) who finally uttered it...Kai's lazy.

Everyone who has played any semblance of organized basketball knows that the higher level you go, the less playing time is guaranteed. This is especially true if you are a new player in the team.
So along the way you will learn and figure out how to get in the rotation and earn minutes. In all levels, if you defend and rebound, you will get minutes.

Defense and rebound is all about effort. You put in your maximum effort, especially at 7'3" and you will be effective in defense and rebounding. But sad to say he's not giving that type of effort. And coaches are big on "body language" and what he projects is someone who doesn't want it.

Good news is, effort is something he can decide on changing at any moment. If he wakes up tomorrow and decides he will not be lazy anymore, he can do it. It is something that can be instantly fixed if he is willing to.

I definitely said I had issues with Kai's rebounding, numerous times. Also backing down, boxing out, and footwork on the PNR. In fact I think it was in one of my replies to Juan Lun.