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Originally posted by ARMIR View Post
I always wonder those violent dunks that he does could have contributed to his injuries,whenever he dunks so hard with feet up in the air and then he lands hard on the court,that's like 5x of his weight on his feet,legs and knees.His fanatical fans liked him doing that,to dominate and humiliate the guy guarding him,that injury was avoidable if he just dribble to left and use his reach for a layup,he was so low like trying to power himself up over his guard.
Alphas in their injury report used the term - ACL RUPTURE
Is there any type (severity, effects) of difference between an ACL Rupture from an ACL TORN?
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Originally posted by k3ttch View Post
Also Chet Holmgren missed the entire 2022-23 season due to a foot fracture and again fractured his pelvis last November, but he's still with OKC.
Dario Saric (2021 ruptured acl)
Thomas Bryant (2021 ruptured acl)
They're the recent ones - NBA Players who suffered an actual "Ruptured ACL" (as indicated in their NBA Med Report) (not torn acl)
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I think ACL injury would be more detrimental to guards & wingmen than to big men becoz much quickness, agility & athleticism are required from guards & wingmen compared to big men. With the advancement of sports medicine as well as the advancement of player conditioning programs, I think players who suffered ACL torn can almost retain their old pre-injury form - quickness, mobility, agility, athleticism. I think the situation in the 80's & 90's s far as injury rehabilitation & recovery is different from the current situation.
Look at Allein Maliksi of Meralco, naka 2 ACL injuries na yan yet he's still playing in the PBA at age 37. If for instance Maliksi played in the PBA during the 80's or 90's & such injuries happened, baka at age 28, wala na sya sa PBA."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostI think ACL injury would be more detrimental to guards & wingmen than to big men becoz much quickness, agility & athleticism are required from guards & wingmen compared to big men. With the advancement of sports medicine as well as the advancement of player conditioning programs, I think players who suffered ACL torn can almost retain their old pre-injury form - quickness, mobility, agility, athleticism. I think the situation in the 80's & 90's s far as injury rehabilitation & recovery is different from the current situation.
Look at Allein Maliksi of Meralco, naka 2 ACL injuries na yan yet he's still playing in the PBA at age 37. If for instance Maliksi played in the PBA during the 80's or 90's & such injuries happened, baka at age 28, wala na sya sa PBA.
Hasn't been the same player since that ACL injury.
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostI think ACL injury would be more detrimental to guards & wingmen than to big men becoz much quickness, agility & athleticism are required from guards & wingmen compared to big men. With the advancement of sports medicine as well as the advancement of player conditioning programs, I think players who suffered ACL torn can almost retain their old pre-injury form - quickness, mobility, agility, athleticism. I think the situation in the 80's & 90's s far as injury rehabilitation & recovery is different from the current situation.
Look at Allein Maliksi of Meralco, naka 2 ACL injuries na yan yet he's still playing in the PBA at age 37. If for instance Maliksi played in the PBA during the 80's or 90's & such injuries happened, baka at age 28, wala na sya sa PBA.
However, the NBA dream just got farther with this recent setback. I really thought that this strong B League season and continuous impressive Gilas games will finally be the springboard for him to make the NBA next season.
This is just heartbreaking. I hate it for the kid.
He's just a kid who dreamed on making it on the next level, and it sucks that it has to happen on him.
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ACL is not a career ender. Pingris became a superstar after reconstructive surgery. Although he is known more for his defense. Definitely Kai will be more deliberate in his moves after recovery. But as many here, we would rather he not go for the highlight moves. As long as he maintains his health and not risk too much I foresee him getting back to his current level or even more. A bit of concern though with just therapy is that he will be a bit awkward in his movements and much less explosive. Kouame I think also had a ruptured ACL and opted not to have a surgery. Kouame looks less explosive as he was prior to injury.
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We have a No. of PBA players who suffered ACL tear, yet no one here can say that their respective games have deteriorated after the injury. Robert Bolick is the same player pre-injury & post injury. I think he even got better post injury. William Navarro also suffered an ACL tear, yet parang wala namang nangyari. His game is still the same with no sign of a decline in his game post injury.
Flashback about 30 years ago & U have the late Samboy "skywalker" Lim suffering an ACL injury, yet after recovering from the injury, lumilipad pa rin si Samboy with hardly any trace of deterioration."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post^ ^ ^ ^ ^
We have a No. of PBA players who suffered ACL tear, yet no one here can say that their respective games have deteriorated after the injury. Robert Bolick is the same player pre-injury & post injury. I think he even got better post injury. William Navarro also suffered an ACL tear, yet parang wala namang nangyari. His game is still the same with no sign of a decline in his game post injury.
Flashback about 30 years ago & U have the late Samboy "skywalker" Lim suffering an ACL injury, yet after recovering from the injury, lumilipad pa rin si Samboy with hardly any trace of deterioration.
However, NBA wise, if no team was willing to gamble on a then 21 years old prospect, young and no injury concerns. What more on a guy that already suffered a career altering injury which is an ACL tear. It just sucks. You hate it to happen on the kid who just dreamed and did nothing but to represent a whole nation behind him.
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post^ ^ ^ ^ ^
We have a No. of PBA players who suffered ACL tear, yet no one here can say that their respective games have deteriorated after the injury. Robert Bolick is the same player pre-injury & post injury. I think he even got better post injury. William Navarro also suffered an ACL tear, yet parang wala namang nangyari. His game is still the same with no sign of a decline in his game post injury.
Flashback about 30 years ago & U have the late Samboy "skywalker" Lim suffering an ACL injury, yet after recovering from the injury, lumilipad pa rin si Samboy with hardly any trace of deterioration.
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Originally posted by CoJ View Post
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As brilliant Ababou's college career was, marami naman yata tayong mga collegiate stars/superstars who became marginal players or benchwarmers in the PBA. Some had very short PBA careers. So it's not a guarantee that if you have a very good college career, you'll be able to carryover that status in the PBA. So I think Ababou's failure to make it big in the PBA could be attributed to his deficiency in skills &/or lack of size to play a specific position. He suffering an ACL injury had not much to do with it."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by DenzelGreat8 View Post
I understand that sentiment. I think Kai will still be a dominant force in the Asian level for the years to come as long as he makes a full recovery.
However, NBA wise, if no team was willing to gamble on a then 21 years old prospect, young and no injury concerns. What more on a guy that already suffered a career altering injury which is an ACL tear. It just sucks. You hate it to happen on the kid who just dreamed and did nothing but to represent a whole nation behind him.
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Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
The thing is we don't know how he'll be after this injury or how long he'll be out. Recovery is case to case basis, Hoping for the best but being out for a long time is a real downer for a basketball player's career especially for someone who's trying to make the NBA..
He won't make it this year for sure,so the target of him being in peak by 24 to 26 will come true then,he could make the NBA then.
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Ruptured and torn ACL is the same thing, just semantics. A lot of medical/surgical advancements has made ACL injuries not as devastating as before. Just a quick search will show that most NBA players who had ACL tears came back just as good. Exceptions are those complicated with age and some are really injury-prone. ACL by itself is not career-threatening.
What happened to Kai is a "giraffe fall."
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It's something extremely tall players are susceptible to. Wemby slipped and contorted his leg far worse but he avoided injury. I've posted earlier on things that Wemby works on to avoid injuries. The best prevention is to "bullet-proof" your body (especially lower extremities) as much as possible. Rather than avoiding getting hit (avoiding contact, using athleticism to the fullest) strengthen the body instead, because getting hit is inevitable.
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Originally posted by ARMIR View Post
He won't make it this year for sure,so the target of him being in peak by 24 to 26 will come true then,he could make the NBA then.…. I am impressed with your conviction. Let’s sing to Kai, don’t stop believing
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