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  • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
    To me this was the best SEAG men's basketball competition ever, it was of a higher level than the usual lower level in SEAG. so it's win win for the region. It's definitely a win for gilas (aside from Gold) a few more WC prospects are in consideration. and at the very least the moral of the team and it's fans should be good looking towards the WC.
    While there are still deep concerns with the program and how we will perform in the WC , at least we are better now than when we started the SEAG ( i think)
    Very much agree with U bro. That is why Gilas reclaiming the gold (although not a spotless win-loss record) has gotten much more significant becoz it was done against highly competitive opponents. Indeed, its not just about winning the gold that is important. It is mainly about lording it over worthy opponents. Becoz there's nothing much to be proud of & its much less fulfilling being crowned as the "one-eyed king in the land of the blind".
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

      It should be... Go back to developmental team to participate in SEAG... No need to prove there... Let other countries enjoy regional competition, While Gilas concentrated in Asian and world level... SEAG is only low level tournament TBH!!!! I don't know why some people here too much serious about this regional tournament that is already proved time and time again that PHL is still undisputed kings of ASEAN basketball...
      Agree with U on this bro.

      This I say: In the next SEA Games, silver medalist Cambodia would be back to the slaughter house. Indonesia & Thailand would be Gilas' main rivals.

      Just let the SEA Games be a training ground or learning experience for our young/developmental players. Let's send our best players in tournaments like FIBA Asia Cup, World Cup & possibly Olympics.
      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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      • Originally posted by barok espinoza View Post

        The 2025 SEAG in Bangkok would be a good tournament for these players to play together. The other teams in the SEA are no longer holding back. The SEAG should be viewed as a training ground for current and future FIBA mainstays. No more sending ineligibles who have no chance of being considered locals next time.
        Correct. The main purpose of sending ineligibles to the SEA Games & Asian Games should be on increasing those players chances of getting exemptions from FIBA and not really on making the team stronger with their presence.
        Last edited by JAMSKIE; 05-17-2023, 02:48 AM.
        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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        • Giannis34GOD u r really some kind of Greek Freak, why do you know so much about lowly South East Asian basketball LOL, but all good . U provide information.

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          • Maybe it's just me but I believe that the Cambodian experience should give Gilas an idea how to stop the Dominicans as well as the Angolans. If a team is athletic, deliberately slow the tempo. Never let these teams have an open court.

            Shutting down the transition offense is vital for Gilas.
            Last edited by ja.he; 05-17-2023, 05:22 AM.
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            • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
              Maybe it's just me but I believe that the Cambodian experience should give Gilas an idea how to the Dominicans as well as the Angolans. If a team is athletic, deliberately slow the tempo. Never let these teams have an open court.

              Shutting down the transition offense is vital for Gilas.
              But the issue is the guys set the tone are either ineligibles or np.. from Cstan, Ross, Bgr muntik na na nga si new..
              To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
              1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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              • Originally posted by reamily View Post

                But the issue is the guys set the tone are either ineligibles or np.. from Cstan, Ross, Bgr muntik na na nga si new..
                Yup. That's the problem. We dont have eligibles who are like CS, Rosser or Philips.

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                • Why is Chot's idea of using development players for SEA games sound like such a innovative idea, isn't this just common sense? Who is planning things ba for Gilas in SBP? Doesn't anyone think about these things ? This is 2 SEA games already wirb over 35 years old PBA vets

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                  • Is newsome a lock for world cup team as other pg..swiss knife sg?
                    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                    1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                    • Originally posted by reamily View Post
                      Is newsome a lock for world cup team as other pg..swiss knife sg?
                      i don’t think so. This is a spot where we have a plethora of options, including Clarkson. This is just recency bias due to his strong showing in this SEAG. When you look at the pool landscape, he will have to duke it out with a lot of players eager to represent the Phi in this WC.

                      Never look too far ahead. You might stumble on a block right in front of you.

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                      • Originally posted by NOiNU View Post

                        i don’t think so. This is a spot where we have a plethora of options, including Clarkson. This is just recency bias due to his strong showing in this SEAG. When you look at the pool landscape, he will have to duke it out with a lot of players eager to represent the Phi in this WC.
                        I see lot of "overrated" guys duking it out for that position..not talking kiefer in it lol, he will take the 3rd pg slot (the ross slot)
                        Last edited by reamily; 05-17-2023, 12:39 PM.
                        To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                        1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                        • I think Newsome has a decent chance. But I am not sure if he is good as a 1.

                          Plus:
                          defense
                          handles
                          some passing
                          mid range

                          Negative
                          3 pt shooting

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                          • Originally posted by Rds View Post
                            I think Newsome has a decent chance. But I am not sure if he is good as a 1.

                            Plus:
                            defense
                            handles
                            some passing
                            mid range

                            Negative
                            3 pt shooting
                            decent 3 pointer just need to be familiar in the sets to get timing.. definitely a no no in 2 week cam setups..we need athleticism.. we cant go gun and gun with dominican and angola.. we need to give the ginger head nicco mannion some problems outside parks
                            To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                            1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                            • Originally posted by reamily View Post

                              decent 3 pointer just need to be familiar in the sets to get timing.. definitely a no no in 2 week cam setups..we need athleticism.. we cant go gun and gun with dominican and angola.. we need to give the ginger head nicco mannion some problems outside parks
                              I think our real problem will be Fontecchio, do we have anyone to guard a 6'8 shooter who recently gained nba experience?

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                              • Originally posted by xenoloxy View Post

                                I think our real problem will be Fontecchio, do we have anyone to guard a 6'8 shooter who recently gained nba experience?
                                kay Polonara nga ako takot, but they have tall guys.. all our tall forwards are ineligible...

                                We need to fastrack balti, tomayo and quiambaos development

                                Edit: its Polonara not Folonara
                                Last edited by reamily; 05-17-2023, 03:53 PM.
                                To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                                1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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