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Originally posted by Sikatrix
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and yet the general public hates them due to nepotism, meanwhile their favorite "stars" who are members of teams that had been eliminated for weeks, can't commit! And to think there will be a long break until the next PBA season, can't they just delay their personal plans after the SEA games?
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Originally posted by Sikatrix View PostAnd neither is a bad option when many players are unavailable.Originally posted by CoJ View Post
Thirdy does his job on defense, it's just that his shooting is inconsistent. Still, I only have many of our best SG's above him, specifically Dwight, Parks, Heading, Perez, and Newsome. He's a decent option at the 2 spot, and his playmaking improved in Japan.
Kiefer naman, I have a less favorable view of him due to him being a liability on defense, and his shot not falling that much, and his up-and-down performances offensively overall, but he's a better PG than most. Only PG's I'd put above him at the moment are Bolick, Scottie, and maybe RJ Abarrientos. Castro and Terrence Romeo had better peaks, but for now, I dunno.
Plus, yes, they're committed to the NT.Comment
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Thirdy is passable as the third SG/SF in the roster in the event that either Parks, Malonzo or Newsome is not available. Keifer PR and game on the other hand never recovered post dust. lost too much athleticism and i think RJ, SJ would be a better fit. And of course Bolick and Scottie are superior over him. Romeo on the other hand has seen better days, Castro meanwhile could use the SEA games as his Gilas retirementOriginally posted by IPC View Post
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I prefer Jerom Lastimosa and others would like Aaron Black, but really, are they better than Kiefer at that spot? Like I said, cupboard is bare at the PG spot, e.Originally posted by CoJ View Post
As for SF, I'd prefer Will Navarro or even Francis Lopez there than Thirdy. Yes, Thirdy can't shoot consistently, but his size forces him to play 2.Comment
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No need to press the panic button yet even though SEA Games is few weeks away. At least SBP already submitted a probationary 28 man squad. I suggest cut it down to those who consistently attended practices plus those players in ongoing Finals…. So final 12 will look like this CJ Perez, Chris Ross, Arvin Tolentino, Brandon Ganuelas, Aaron Black, Chris Newsome, Michael Phillips, Mason Amos, Justin Brownlee, Jamie Malonzo, Mikey Williams and Poy Erram. Even with limited preparation, I believe we can avenge our dismal finish in last SEA and reclaim our crown…Comment
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I dunno, maybe it's just me but I think the presence of JBL (the best PBA player in a long time now) gives me reassurance that we'll go all the way for the SEAG gold. A guy like him was what we lacked in the last edition of SEAG basketball. His versatility, two-way play, and efficiency on offense is something else, he'll be a walking mismatch to any 2, 3, and 4 that our SEAG opponents will deploy against Gilas.Originally posted by FilWelsh View PostComment
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Honestly, I dunno why we need to go overboard such that veterans like Mikey and CStand are being considered. While they're good, I think it might be a waste of roster spots, which would be better served for the FIBA-eligible guys for the WC, and the younger ineligibles which we can make more use of in the long term like Phillips, Gray, and even BGR. While winning is nice, and adds to the winning mentality of the team, I'd rather build up chemistry for the World Cup and secure the eligibility of Phillips, Gray, and BGR. Yeah, that loss to Indonesia stung, but we should never have put ourselves in that situation in the first place. Simple defensive adjustments (like not leaving shooters open for threes, which you routinely do in a 2-3 zone; subbing in competent defensive players) could have won that if we can't have a talent upgrade.
Save Mikey and CStand for the Asian Games.Comment
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Because Chot and the SBP want assurances to protect their image.Originally posted by IPC View Post
Chot is a win-now coach. He is not a guy you turn to for development or establishing chemistry.Comment
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I think this lineup can compete:Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
Guards: Scottie, Perez, Newsome, Schonny (if he attends), maybe Black and Jerom
Wings: Brownlee, Oftana, Malonzo, Gray
Tweeners: Mason, BGR
Bigs: Japeth, Mike Phillips
I think this lineup can win gold while at the same time, preparing other additions to the national team, and at the same time, prepare for the WC. And besides, this lineup's chemistry is mostly established, as they already trained together.Comment
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Yeah, especially since its a must win for Gilas in this coming SEA Games having lost that precious gold medal to Indonesia in the last SEA Games, expect Chot to go all out to win with little to no regard for player development. I expect a "win now forget about player development for the meantime" mentality from Chot. In fact its not only Chot who has this mentality but unfortunately the SBP & PBA people as well as our sports officials from the PSC & some Pinoy basketball fans. And to think that this is only SEA Games. We made it a big deal that we lost that gold medal in last year's SEA Games, yet PBA, SBP & our pa epal officials from PSC hardly cared about our dismal performance in last year's FIBA Asia Cup.Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
No matter how we convince ourselves that teams like Indonesia & Vietnam has improved dramatically in basketball, still SEA basketball is several notches below Asia-Oceania basketball. Indonesia, despite its upgraded line-up is not even rank among the top 10 teams in Asia-Oceania. No matter how many SEA Games basketball Phi has won or will win, our Asian counterparts like China, Korea, Japan, Lebanon, Iran, Jordan, hardly care about it. We won't get any respect from them by dominating South East Asian basketball beciz they are aware that SEA badketball is low level. We will only get their respect if we perform decently in Asian or Asia-Oceania basketball."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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For me, Chot's PBA legacy has dimmed a little with Jolas' victory. Jolas was able to win a championship basically with the same formula as Chot, let Mikey do the shooting. I liked how Jolas used his defensive lineup to produce stops. Something that I don't remember Chot doing much. Also, I am not sure if Chot would've made plays for Oftana in the SG/SF spot. I hope Chot has learned something here. Like, a tall guy doesn't need to be at Gabe Norwood's level defensively to be effective at the SF spot if you involve him in offense.Originally posted by sroth3839 View PostComment
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Agree bro, especially in the last part.Originally posted by Rds View Post
While Oftana isn't in the level of a Gabe Norwood defensively, I think Oftana isn't a bad defender at the 3 spot. But compared to Norwood, Oftana is the better offensive player. For one, Oftana has more confidence in his offensive game than Norwood, plus Oftana is more assertive offensively than the usually passive Gabe Norwood. Besides, defense is a collective effort that requires coordination, cohesion & teamwork. Of course its a big plus if you have some defensive specialist in the team like a Norwood, Glen Capacio, Mark Pingris."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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We can tap CStand if Brownlee won’t recover from his injury… still I believe without Brownlee and Japan and Korea based players Philippines still have a strong shot at SEA Games gold…Originally posted by alfrancis View Post
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and Ange is out because... 3x3?Originally posted by FilWelsh View PostWE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES
P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
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