2023 SEA Games (Cambodia)

[reamily]

Tama robert guam has quality bigs while cambodia has quality guards plus home court..

[greenarcher]

There's no better way for the Indos to further humiliate us than by beating us again tomorrow and making us settle for 3rd. Worse than last time's silver.

Good luck Indonesia!

[Rds]

We play bad on defense like last year, we're done for.

Unlike last year our main rotation guys are known to move their feet on defense. In fact most of our guys have good to decent perimeter defense. We can switch. Guys like Jerom are even good at going over screens

[bballcrazy]

Why thailand has a indonesian curse? Haha
just like us againts s.korea.
i think coz theres also plenty of thai-for for them
nagiging iso ball narin sila haha
antonio price is one. typical guard ball hugger

Yah too many me ball although on paper they are more talented team. Their new center Martin bruenig also is meh not a game changer. Indonesia play with way better ball movement and chemistry.

[Bonifacio]

Yep, semis set tomorrow.

I dunno if this counts as homecooking, but after the 8v5 we saw last Thursday, anything is possible, I guess.

Isnt it unfair for the Indonesians that they have to fight Gilas a day after they fought Thailand. Unlike Gilas that had some rest (and with an easy opponent Singapore as their last opponent), Indonesia had no rest.

[Metta]

The mission of this version of Gilas is supposed to be the SEAG Redeem Team, meaning it's all about beating Indonesia (team Cambodia is just an unexpected aside).

There should be absolutely no reason or excuse for us not to be ready against Indonesia.

[DAdmiral]

I think the eligibility rule of Asian Games basketball is similar to that of the previous SEA Games. Meaning a player of a certain country is considered local if he is a natural born citizen of that country regardless of when he secured the passport of the country he wants to represent. I think that has been the rule of Asia Games & SEA Games eversince until this edition of SEA Games in which host Cambodia modified the rule in which allowed a player who is not a natural born citizen of a certain country to become a local player provided that he obtained passport of his adopted country.

From a implementation perspective verifying grant of a 2nd citizenship via "natural born " vs naturalization (defined as acquiring a 2nd citizenship after original (e.g congress ) is really not feasible verifiable , especially by just the Asian games eligibility committee.
residency however is easy verifiable (simple look up league of player )
for all intents and purposes really are ineligibles are as naturalized or as American as the Cambodian imports legally. What differentiates our ineligibles from Cambodian imports is residency ( ineligibles play in the PBA) , I'm serious. , That is why we shouldn't be so quick to judge others without looking at our selves 1st. We are gaming the rules as well, just differently. (We grant 2nd citizenship to Americans and establish PBA residency), there are many ways of granting (based on relationships (parents) etc, but legally it's still naturalized to a 2nd citizenship)

[JAMSKIE]

Isnt it unfair for the Indonesians that they have to fight Gilas a day after they fought Thailand. Unlike Gilas that had some rest (and with an easy opponent Singapore as their last opponent), Indonesia had no rest.

Yes, it is really unfair. Less than 24 hours after that hard fought win over Thailand, the Indons will have to deal with Gilas who had the benefit of a day off & had an easy assignment in Singapore in its last game in the elims. But actually nadamay lang tayo sa Cambodia who I think consciously set this schedule so as it will get a day off going into the semis while its opponent will get no day off going into the semis. We are just lucky to be grouped with the host. So in a sense, both Gilas & Cambodia get the benefit of this scheduling while Indonesia & Thailand will be on the disadvantageous side.

This is a break that we didn't ask for but was given to us. Maybe this is the break that coach Chot badly needs to avoid further dissaster.

[DAdmiral]

REALISTIC IMPLEMENTABLE ELIGIBILITY RULES EXPLAINED

If people remember the Fil Sham issue , were the Senate was inquiring if Asi had established roots/ relatives in Samar , you will realise the difficulty of verifying heritage at even the National level, much more the International governance level, the granularity at the regional provincial level verification is just not doable at the International governance level. (each and every local authority can have it's own unique independent way of establishing lineage to a country (a high priest Moari monk can grant lineage to Jason Mamoa) . So what is FIBA or any International governance eligibility committee left with for verification? There are only 2 things to go by for as universal verifiable fact , they are Immigration documents ( passport) and records of residency (includes parents former residency) , so limited to using those 2 sources of verifiable truth a governing body can draft it's level of restrictions . e.g. by what age a passport is required , how many years of residency is required , this goes for both the player and his parents or grandparents if one is to use heritage as one of the basis. (it's not realistic however for FIBA or SEAG to be able verify residents of parents )

[hmbopbaduwap]

limited rest hrs for thailand hehehe, anyway i dont like our chances against Indo

And they can also deliberately delayed the 2nd game hehe

[reamily]

if they use fiba rules in 3x3, still possible we can field Cstan, oftana, mikey and brownlee in it on asian games..and thats freaking legal..or worse Mikey, clarkson, brownlee cstan

[DAdmiral]

if they use fiba rules in 3x3, still possible we can field Cstan, oftana, mikey and brownlee in it on asian games..and thats freaking legal..or worse Mikey, clarkson, brownlee cstan

Same legal if Cambodia fields 4 NP in 3x3 FIBA rules, from a legal basis there is actually no difference

The difference legally is if you add a residency requirement ( as Brownlee, Mikey are all PBA residents , while Cambodia NP are not)

[Rds]

Looking at the Indo box score, DMX or Derrick Michael isn't there. Is he not playing or are they hiding him?

[C2Hamm]

Looking at the Indo box score, DMX or Derrick Michael isn't there. Is he not playing or are they hiding him?

injured, not part of the team for this Sea games

[Rds]

injured, not part of the team for this Sea games

Thanks