40 years ago during 1983 Asian Basketball Championship, Philippines did the same travesty as what Cambodia is doing today. Some of our games were nullified due to presence of 5 American imports masquerading as naturalised players. That ill- fated national squad includes Chip Engelland, Jeffrey Moore, Dennis Still, Johnny Nash, John Hegwood, Hector Calma, Franz Pumaren, Tonichi Yturri, Jong Uichico, Alfie Almario, Jun Tan and Teddy Alfarero. Hard pill to swallow but we were the original cheaters in our region. So they said. How ironic. The Cambodians just copied us hence 4 decades later.
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Originally posted by DAdmiral View PostNote, most of the current SEAG gilas players are not even World cup eligible or main pool members LOL , they not risky the world cup availability , they are risking their pro careers (PBA etc) due to possible injury , let's be accurate.
For all intents of purposes this is like " Mighty sports" playing in Dubai invitational or Jones cup .. peace..
but honestly we all know why the SBP is doing this, " redeem itself raw " , sige.. go ahead.. redeem reputation LOL
I'm surprised they still have their jobs after last year's SEA Games screw-up, as well as the fiascos with Joke and the U16 and U18.
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Originally posted by IPC View Post
Well, the screw-up in last year's SEA Games (which was very winnable; just that the defense sucked and the wrong people played and the wrong people were DNP) led us to this point of having to win at all costs to save their asses (at least we do have a development angle with Mike, Mason, and Jerom, and are gunning for the eligibility of Mike and BGR, two assets for future FIBA cycles).
I'm surprised they still have their jobs after last year's SEA Games screw-up, as well as the fiascos with Joke and the U16 and U18.
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Originally posted by thatweirdguy View PostI'm ok with including ineligibles for the sake of establishing residency/ eligibility. The others not so much. This might even be the last time they play for our NT
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostMore like a 6-8 Mark Pingris, which would be awesome. BTW, Mike Philipps is only 21 yrs old, right? He will certainly get stronger & tougher in the few yrs to come. Maybe he needs to polish some medium range jumpers so that he becomes an offensive threat maski papaano. That's doable since he's only in his early 20's.
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Originally posted by reamily View Post
hahah your overestimaing cambodia..thats why the effort of mike earlier was commendable as.. its linoleum flooring
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Originally posted by CoJ View Post
lol, that flooring injured a cambodian player as well, so its just incompetence on their part not lutong macau. Heck if I'm the PBA im pulling out my players, they might get a severe injury.
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Originally posted by FilWelsh View Post40 years ago during 1983 Asian Basketball Championship, Philippines did the same travesty as what Cambodia is doing today. Some of our games were nullified due to presence of 5 American imports masquerading as naturalised players. That ill- fated national squad includes Chip Engelland, Jeffrey Moore, Dennis Still, Johnny Nash, John Hegwood, Hector Calma, Franz Pumaren, Tonichi Yturri, Jong Uichico, Alfie Almario, Jun Tan and Teddy Alfarero. Hard pill to swallow but we were the original cheaters in our region. So they said. How ironic. The Cambodians just copied us hence 4 decades later.
We surely have the benefit of some genetics... Fujian province/Chinese mainland immigrants, being a Spanish colony and an American protectorate, now we got hordes of biracials from the overseas Filipino diaspora. Even the words biracial and diaspora are practically non-existent in some Asian cultures... that's why the impulse if you don't know Philippine basketball is that only Lastimosa, Oftana, and Tolentino are the real Filipinos, Phillips is the only Fil-Am because he speaks Tagalog, which leaves the other 67% to be naturalized.
NCC led us to believe that "naturalizing" Still/Moore/Engelland/etc was fair because of the Filipino's inherent lack of height... and we carried that mindset all the way to almost 50+ PBA seasons (the last 10 or so being invaded by Fil-Ams) and FIBA World Cup appearances (we don't reach the World Cup without Douthit and Blatche). The double standard is just so squatter by design.
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The SBP people should have made the call to join , prepare or not , months ago.. if based on their investigations / intel , too many concerns , then it should defer. mag send ng sorry regrets na lang.... but once they agreed wala na ...
Australia and New Zealand sent their apologies not to join Asia U18 last year , months in advance , for whatever reason (safety etc) , what they could not do is join and travel there , then the day before the 1st game or half time say , ayoko na LOL
i guess what i am saying it's inappropriate, to be already there , and the head coach, says. " we shouldn;t even be here , LOL. what kind of logic is that
you're preparing and everything , and asked the boys to train hard.. tapos you will say teka teka, we shouldn't even be here , LOL
essentially they made a decision based on supposedly information , eh what Chot is saying , hindi namin alam na it will be like this...
if unacceptable , the participants should decide not to join , that should be the action point , months ago, not now
sobrang messed up yung messaging ni Chot , what do you expect the players to do, coach sabi mo , puso , give your all , play hard , tapos hindi pala safe .. LOL walang ganoon
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Originally posted by DAdmiral View PostThe SBP people should have made the call to join , prepare or not months ago.. if based on their investigations / intel to many concerns , then it should defer. mag send ng sorry regrets na lang.... but once they agreed wala na ...
Australia and New Zealand sent their apologies not to join Asia U18 last year , months in advance , for whatever reason (safety etc) , what they could not do is join and travel there , then the day before the 1st game or half time say , ayoko na LOL
i guess what i am saying it's inappropriate, to be already there , and the head coach, says. " we shouldn;t even be here , LOL. what kind of logic is that
you're preparing and everything , and asked the boys to train hard.. tapos you will say teka teka, we shouldn't even be here , LOL
essentially they made a decision based on suposedly information , eh what Chot is saying , hindi namin alam na it will be like this...
if unacceptable , the participants should decide not to join , that should be the action point
sobrang messed up yung messaging ni Chot , what do you expect the players to do, coach sabi mo , puso , give your all , play hard , tapos hindi pala safe .. LOL walang ganoon
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Originally posted by IPC View Post
So basically SBP should have done their due diligence and assessed if the playing conditions were safe beforehand?
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Originally posted by DAdmiral View PostThe SBP people should have made the call to join , prepare or not , months ago.. if based on their investigations / intel , too many concerns , then it should defer. mag send ng sorry regrets na lang.... but once they agreed wala na ...
Australia and New Zealand sent their apologies not to join Asia U18 last year , months in advance , for whatever reason (safety etc) , what they could not do is join and travel there , then the day before the 1st game or half time say , ayoko na LOL
i guess what i am saying it's inappropriate, to be already there , and the head coach, says. " we shouldn;t even be here , LOL. what kind of logic is that
you're preparing and everything , and asked the boys to train hard.. tapos you will say teka teka, we shouldn't even be here , LOL
essentially they made a decision based on supposedly information , eh what Chot is saying , hindi namin alam na it will be like this...
if unacceptable , the participants should decide not to join , that should be the action point , months ago, not now
sobrang messed up yung messaging ni Chot , what do you expect the players to do, coach sabi mo , puso , give your all , play hard , tapos hindi pala safe .. LOL walang ganoon
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Originally posted by DAdmiral View PostThe SBP people should have made the call to join , prepare or not , months ago.. if based on their investigations / intel , too many concerns , then it should defer. mag send ng sorry regrets na lang.... but once they agreed wala na ...
Australia and New Zealand sent their apologies not to join Asia U18 last year , months in advance , for whatever reason (safety etc) , what they could not do is join and travel there , then the day before the 1st game or half time say , ayoko na LOL
i guess what i am saying it's inappropriate, to be already there , and the head coach, says. " we shouldn;t even be here , LOL. what kind of logic is that
you're preparing and everything , and asked the boys to train hard.. tapos you will say teka teka, we shouldn't even be here , LOL
essentially they made a decision based on supposedly information , eh what Chot is saying , hindi namin alam na it will be like this...
if unacceptable , the participants should decide not to join , that should be the action point , months ago, not now
sobrang messed up yung messaging ni Chot , what do you expect the players to do, coach sabi mo , puso , give your all , play hard , tapos hindi pala safe .. LOL walang ganoon
chaka pare, what shot said is basically we shouldn't be playing ON A SURFACE LIKE THIS for the safety of the players to avoid injuries.. hindi ung WE SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING IN THE SEA GAMES PERIOD.. kaya i think there is a personal hatred na eh because words are being spun around..
and pre, is there a precedent in recent memory that the basketball court provided is deemed unsafe? and honestly, please pre tell me, how in the blue hell would you know what kind of court would be presented gametime? months ago? let's be honest...
hayyy naku...
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Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
absolutely and make the decision then to join or not , no one is forcing them to join, you cannot say now,.. hindi namin alam ganito pala,, where is the due diligence work ?
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