2023 SEA Games (Cambodia)

[Giannis34GOD]

Giannis was stateless as a youth hence his FIBA eligibility was always gonna be easy once he got citizenship.

Yeah... That's why when he get his Greek citizenship and passport, FIBA also follows the birth place of said player... Giannis born in Athens, It means it's basic that Giannis is a Greek citizen according to FIBA... Note: CJ Perez is Hong Kong born citizen, If somehow Gilas didn't notice him before, Perez can play for Hong Kong as a local player, since he was born in Hong Kong... That's basic rule... Another example.. Mavs Phenom guy Kyt Jimenez was born in Jeddah... Thus, Kyt can be a local player for KSA and play there in FIBA competitions as local if Philippines/Gilas will not tap him in any FIBA events... Tony Parker can be local in Belgium since he was born there, But because his family moved to France, And he played numerous basketball careers in France in early days before go to NBA... The same scenario with Steve Nash, born in South Africa but moved to Canada...

[DAdmiral]

definition of exception fallacy : It occurs when you reach a group conclusion on the basis of exceptional cases.

This is exception fallacy , find a case that looks to break the criteria to justify this is the norm . (Not an exception to the normal. ), BTW Jawato has residency as a minor . This line of thinking is conspiracy theory propaganda. I saw a UFO , therefor must be true that Aliens are here !.

If you use the Falasy, anyone can litterarally justify if he got away with something (let's say speeding over 200 kms per hour and didn't get caught), therefor that speeding rule does not exist . This is stupid logic

Sinaibi na ng sec general thst they look at age of residency when deciding, literarily it is stated in the letters of rejection or approval drafted by the Sec General.

every regulation is attempting to encourage a behavior. The behavior being encouraged by the Under 16 rule is established both country residency and citizenship in one's youth development years . Super clear logic, and still cannot understand rational for the rule that has a clear age stated in the rule

BTW residency is fundamental to citizenship , that is why Green card/ permanent residency leads to citizenship. So if eligibility policy has a cutt off age for citizenship ( 16 passport) then policy will logically encourage in their guideline criteria to have residency at a younger age

[Silent Killer]

and why some people need ross to be exempted? CS? as much as we need CS he’s tag as NP.. same as pringle..SBP applied before and was not given the green light..

[ja.he]

and why some people need ross to be exempted? CS? as much as we need CS he’s tag as NP.. same as pringle..SBP applied before and was not given the green light..

If I were SBP, I will place this exemption to Mike Philipps. In one article, it was said that Mike has been with La Salle since 2019 - so that makes him 17 at that time. He is a 2002 kid.

Mike Philipps is well integrated here in the Philippines - a resident, a student, part of his basketball heritage is in the Philippines and a fluent Tagalog speaker. To top it all, the kid has a good attitude, mindset and potential.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/uaap-men/la-salle-scores-big-with-acquisition-of-fil-am-michael-phillips-brother-ben-a2437-20200707

[reamily]

If I were SBP, I will place this exemption to Mike Philipps. In one article, it was said that Mike has been with La Salle since 2019 - so that makes him 17 at that time.

Mike Philipps is well integrated here in the Philippines - a resident, a student, part of his basketball heritage is in the Philippines and a fluent Tagalog speaker. To top it all, the kid has a good attitude, mindset and potential.

no need, he will get it, ganun ka sureball sbp sa kanya as he ticked all the checkboxes fiba had stated as per analyzed yun debate is the class of tyler lamb asean foreigners..and how jerichoc ruz had played from norther marianas to gilas up to Guam

[DAdmiral]

but short term in time for WC, Philipps may be only possibility , you stil have to submit application, if MVP mismo submits as primary host of WC, super sure ball yun

[Giannis34GOD]

and why some people need ross to be exempted? CS? as much as we need CS he’s tag as NP.. same as pringle..SBP applied before and was not given the green light..

And no benefit if they get exemptions... Waste of time and money, Too late for those players...

[Giannis34GOD]

but short term in time for WC, Philipps may be only possibility , you stil have to submit application, if MVP mismo submits as primary host of WC, super sure ball yun

Why not? He's good as advertise... And he's a long term plan for Gilas....

[reamily]

those players that your disregard plays much better role than your favorites

[FilWelsh]

OK... The 1st one i was fooled... Anyway you posted it too... So you fooled too... hehehehehehehehe

Second, Giannis get his passport 17 years old, 1 year after the FIBA criteria at 16, But remember, I didn't compare him to Abbasi by the way (check the post above), And he was born in Greece but because his parents are illegal immigrants, Thus, they were not considered by the government as Greek immigrants until Giaanis make it to the NBA... Giannis gets local status by FIBA because he was born there.. That's basic criteria.. The only reason it was complicated because his parents doesn't have prove to the Greek government of any visa or passport that they are legally immigrant to Athens... If not Giannis' successful NBA career, Greek government will not care Giannis' family

Third, We both are agree on this one, residency is the key for exemption... But no cut offs... I already give you examples such as Young, Lish, Jawato... Those names gets their passport late in their careers...

Forth, Any organization, Whether it's FIFA or FIBA have that issues... It was posted it before that SBP pays 1 million PHP for Newsome's exemption... They lobby before Newsome's eligibility before but it was failed... But it was accept this time after they learn how PERBASI did it easily to Jawato (They bribe FIBA for Jawato's case)... This is reality bro... You are insider of SBP but you didn't know this? Cmon!!!! And i'm not lying... VBF pays same amount of what SBP pays for Young to be exempted, But they can't pull it all since it was costly...

how about Mav Ahanmisi did SBP also shouldered bill or cost for his exemption? Considering prior to his FIBA clearance last year he is been out of Gilas pipeline for a while. And SBP sponsored him instead of Hermoso? I don’t get it.

[BJ_Reloaded]

That is why the likes of Jayson Perkins who came here in 2012 when he was still 20 yrs. old to supposedly play for San Beda at that time under then coach Frankie Lim but choose DLSU(2013 to 2016) instead because the laters eventual resignation(?) at that time. Start playing as a college student in a commercial league like D-League from 2015 to 2017; start playing a full-time professional from 2017 up to the present; already represented the country in a 3x3 team via 2019 SEA Games.

As for Ange Koume we have to be patient on him a little bit despite the fact that he already satisfied all the requirements for that basketball heritage provision as well as the so-called Marginal Case due to economic reason with his family’s consent and approval.

As for BGR(it’s a long shot but still had a small window on it) despite the fact that he may probably acquired his PH Pass during his final(?) collegiate year at UC Riverside 2016-2018 before his stint at Alab Pilipinas 2019-2020 season when he still 21 to 23 years old. I think to make a strong case buildup, he needs to present a document that he spent some time during his minor and adolescent years alongside his Kuya Matt in the country considering his older brother was born here hence classified as a local and the amount of involvement from from the domestic leagues like the PBA 3x3 and 5v5; represented the country from his Alab days, SEA Games 2021 via Gilas 3x3 team and the recently concluded 2023 SEA Games Gilas 5x5.

[DAdmiral]

The principle and concept being encouraged and promoted by FIBA by how it framed its eligibility rules is very clear and simple:

Develop and raise home base players using your own program. (Litterally youth development program residing in your country). Thst should be very easy to understand and appreciate. And why there is an emphasis on age of residency developed in the countries program. (Basketball heritage)

[FilWelsh]

Over the years SBP obtained exemptions, I believe we are quite up to the mark in this regard. Their track record includes players like Lutz, Lassiter, Malonso, Newsome, Adams, Ahanmisi and Winston. Do I missed someone?

[CoJ]

Over the years SBP obtained exemptions, I believe we are quite up to the mark in this regard. Their track record includes players like Lutz, Lassiter, Malonso, Newsome, Adams, Ahanmisi and Winston. Do I missed someone?

Greg Slaughter in 2019, though he was only tapped for one window during the 2019 WC qualifiers

[FilWelsh]

Greg Slaughter in 2019, though he was only tapped for one window during the 2019 WC qualifiers

of course Slaughter.