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  • Originally posted by The_Big_Cat View Post

    What position did Amos play in Australia? Did he play wing there all his life?
    He was playing the four spot
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    • Originally posted by IPC View Post

      Teka, other posters in other threads said that Pablo could switch onto guards, and I believed them. So, how is Pablo slow? Is he slow, period, or is the seniors' game too quick for him?
      Watched them as Greenies even then they didn't have the quickness to keep up with wings and guards defensively so they should exclusively guard bigs. Offensively tho, pablo can drive it in, while gagate is more of your prototypical big in the post.

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      • Originally posted by gospursgo View Post
        Watched them as Greenies even then they didn't have the quickness to keep up with wings and guards defensively so they should exclusively guard bigs. Offensively tho, pablo can drive it in, while gagate is more of your prototypical big in the post.
        Ay, if that's so, UP should have just stuck with Demisana, who has better awareness on defense and is longer.

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        • Originally posted by gospursgo View Post

          Watched them as Greenies even then they didn't have the quickness to keep up with wings and guards defensively so they should exclusively guard bigs. Offensively tho, pablo can drive it in, while gagate is more of your prototypical big in the post.
          i haven't watched the juniors, only the the fiba u18 asian qualifiers. both pablo & gagate were very mobile and able to switch on defense in those games.

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          • It’s just unfortunate that Pablo had little playing time in a loaded UP frontline. He has to play behind the ultra athletic Lopez and veteran Torcullas. Sometimes Pablo gets pushed behind the long and versatile Mark Belmonte, who is also older than Pablo. If Lopez doesn’t turn pro, another year of suffering for Pablo. He is lucky because the guys ahead and himself can slide to 3 and that frees up playing time for him.

            More than Pablo, I think Gagate will be even buried deeper. Next year he has to play behind the new, taller and athletic FSA. Then he has to fight against the older Gani Stevens. And there’s Sean Alter as well. Mas mabuburo si Gagate compared to Pablo.

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            • lol troy rike is a far better player than amos

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              • I think Pablo and Gagate are probably just as fast/quick/athletic as Amos. You only have to look at their free throws to know the problem, they can't shoot. UP needs floor spacers to take advantage of Diouf and overall athleticism.

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                • Mason Amos is probably the most skilled guy offensively his height in the Philippines. Between him and Tamayo

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                  • Also is Francis Lopez able to play defense on the wing? I don’t watch the games but saw the highlights and he seems to have a problem moving laterally guarding Amos in OT

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                    • Originally posted by TheRodster21 View Post
                      Mason Amos is probably the most skilled guy offensively his height in the Philippines. Between him and Tamayo
                      When he was trying out for the gilas men's pool, teammates were comparing his shooting to Caidic. That coming from fellow players is the highest recommendation.

                      But as usual, knee-jerk casuals will expect a barely 19 year old rookie to be a completely developed and consistent player. Newsflash for them: we have 20 year old players in 11th grade.

                      The exciting thing about him and Tamayo is the mental part. It seems they get better when the moment is pressure packed. Those players are special.

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                      • Originally posted by Metta View Post
                        When he was trying out for the gilas men's pool, teammates were comparing his shooting to Caidic. That coming from fellow players is the highest recommendation.

                        But as usual, knee-jerk casuals will expect a barely 19 year old rookie to be a completely developed and consistent player. Newsflash for them: we have 20 year old players in 11th grade.

                        The exciting thing about him and Tamayo is the mental part. It seems they get better when the moment is pressure packed. Those players are special.
                        That's why I think the cut-off for seniors should now be age instead of college year. I think anyone over 19 should be included in the seniors team. Juniors should be limited to those 19 and under, but players within that age group can be promoted to seniors early.

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                        • Originally posted by magic_chiongson View Post

                          i haven't watched the juniors, only the the fiba u18 asian qualifiers. both pablo & gagate were very mobile and able to switch on defense in those games.
                          They can keep up with guys their age but the big men in the UAAP are mostly 22 years old and up.

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                          • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                            That's why I think the cut-off for seniors should now be age instead of college year. I think anyone over 19 should be included in the seniors team. Juniors should be limited to those 19 and under, but players within that age group can be promoted to seniors early.
                            That's what a lot of casuals do not understand. Always neglecting the age factor. They see a guy in his mid-twenties outplay a teenager and immediately makes conclusions. No concept of development/potential and looking at the wrong aspects of a player.

                            Local ecosystem is partly to blame, always prefers the "hinog" players at all levels even if there is limited upside.

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                            • ^Like Chris Hubilla, who will be an incoming rookie for UP at a whopping 21 years old next season (turned 20 last February and still finishing senior high).

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                              • Originally posted by Metta View Post

                                That's what a lot of casuals do not understand. Always neglecting the age factor. They see a guy in his mid-twenties outplay a teenager and immediately makes conclusions. No concept of development/potential and looking at the wrong aspects of a player.

                                Local ecosystem is partly to blame, always prefers the "hinog" players at all levels even if there is limited upside.
                                Heres hoping that the MPBL lowers its age eligibility and start accepting highschool graduates into their league. Although the risk of injury will always be there but I would rather see these red shirting kids or those being stashed away in college team Bs play in the MPBL and get exposed to professional play rather than wasting away 2 or 3 years while waiting their turn to come up into team A.
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