UAAP season 86

[digitalsuperman]

Scouting report probably was that Amos is just a jump-shooter so you can put a smaller but quicker player to guard him very tight. They did not expect him to put the ball on the floor or to do stepback threes like that.

thats just so wrong. when he was with batang gilas he was good at the post. also that step back he did that as well in batang gilas iirc.

[Crustacean]

UP is just too deep. What more next season when Gani Stevens comes in.
I think 7 should transfer if he wants more playing time

They are not deep in the front court though. After Malick, big men rotation is thin. Alter is too raw and there's a reason Pablo and Gagate are not given significant minutes (they're both too slow for the seniors game, defensively).

I've always thought the thin big man rotation of this UP team will be the reason why they wouldn't sweep this season, and this game showed exactly why. They also had a hard time against DLSU for the same reason. Make Diouf work on defense and his offense suffers greatly.

[digitalsuperman]

He has mentioned it frequently, his goal is always to develop players. The winning is a bonus if you do the developing correctly. I think he enjoys the challenge in the developing part.

Hopefully him recruiting plenty of 18-19 year olds (unlike getting 1-and-dones or 2-and-throughs) means that he still plans to continue doing that.

yes indeed. its fulfilling for him to develop players and its really having results as he was able to develop players good enough to play in korea and japan. although i noticed that ateneo is hardly recruiting locally. they have a lot of foreign based players. not that im complaining, i guess UP and the other schools just get to them first and also most local players have handlers with political background.

[Metta]

thats just so wrong. when he was with batang gilas he was good at the post. also that step back he did that as well in batang gilas iirc.

That's the thing with levels, players can do so much at a certain level and not be able to do it when they go up a level. You have to prove it first.

So far in the season, I don't think Amos showed enough of what he can do yet. And Lopez is not a slouch on defense, they probably thought he was good enough to contain Amos.

[digitalsuperman]

They are not deep in the front court though. After Malick, big men rotation is thin. Alter is too raw and there's a reason Pablo and Gagate are not given significant minutes (they're both too slow for the seniors game, defensively).

I've always thought the thin big man rotation of this UP team will be the reason why they wouldn't sweep this season, and this game showed exactly why. They also had a hard time against DLSU for the same reason. Make Diouf work on defense and his offense suffers greatly.

i think ateneo showed how to play around diouf. in many cases they played small ball against UP. diouf was easily pushed around with proper boxout.

[digitalsuperman]

That's the thing with levels, players can do so much at a certain level and not be able to do it when they go up a level. You have to prove it first.

So far in the season, I don't think Amos showed enough of what he can do yet. And Lopez is not a slouch on defense, they probably thought he was good enough to contain Amos.

or a bad scouting report. i did see that UP has focused a lot of balungay. they did shut him down and played good defense on balungay.

[Crustacean]

yes indeed. its fulfilling for him to develop players and its really having results as he was able to develop players good enough to play in korea and japan. although i noticed that ateneo is hardly recruiting locally. they have a lot of foreign based players. not that im complaining, i guess UP and the other schools just get to them first and also most local players have handlers with political background.

And sadly, a lot of local players really don't care about studying. There was a discussion here before that Fil-foreign players still put a premium on the STUDENT part of being a student-athlete because most of them aren't wired to think that they can get to the pros anyway.

[Metta]

or a bad scouting report. i did see that UP has focused a lot of balungay. they did shut him down and played good defense on balungay.

That's where the chess game begins. Balungay was the consistent producer this season and of course he will be game planned. This is where coaches strategize on what the other coach expects and throw curveballs on those expectations.

[IPC]

That's where the chess game begins. Balungay was the consistent producer this season and of course he will be game planned. This is where coaches strategize on what the other coach expects and throw curveballs on those expectations.

That's where Koon, Brown, Obasa, and Mason came in.

[digitalsuperman]

And sadly, a lot of local players really don't care about studying. There was a discussion here before that Fil-foreign players still put a premium on the STUDENT part of being a student-athlete because most of them aren't wired to think that they can get to the pros anyway.

true. most of the local players who are good, already have padrinos and a lot of those players think they will be successful without a good program. i mean there are some who went successful but only small percentage. ateneo in generaly doesnt really want to deal with padrinos as they have politics as a baggage.

i do hope that with the likes of gagate who has very limited PT, they can just go to other schools and develop. UST now seems to be sponsored and they will thrive there. or gagate can go SBU or letran. if he will ride the bench then all those potential will just go to waste.

[Crustacean]

i think ateneo showed how to play around diouf. in many cases they played small ball against UP. diouf was easily pushed around with proper boxout.

Did they really? For the overtime period, they played:

6' Quitevis/6'4" Koon vs. 6'1" Alarcon/6'1" Torres/6'1" Cansino
6'2" Brown vs. 5'9" Cagulangan
6'7" Amos vs. 6'6" Lopez
6'11 Obasa vs 6'11 Diouf

[digitalsuperman]

That's where Koon, Brown, Obasa, and Mason came in.

indeed. it looked like balungay played a bad game but he was really covered defensively well. UP really did prepared for him. including Obasa, UP prepared for him. ateneo adjusted and placed Amos against diouf defensively. obasa did well off the ball as well but wasn't much of a factor. it was amos who really stepped up and to some extend brown as well. im quite impressed with ateneo at this stage.

[digitalsuperman]

Did they really? For the overtime period, they played:

6' Quitevis/6'4" Koon vs. 6'1" Alarcon/6'1" Torres/6'1" Cansino
6'2" Brown vs. 5'9" Cagulangan
6'7" Amos vs. 6'6" Lopez
6'11 Obasa vs 6'11 Diouf

yes. obasa was mostly guarding lopez and amos for diouf.

[Metta]

or a bad scouting report. i did see that UP has focused a lot of balungay. they did shut him down and played good defense on balungay.

Bro just days before the game clowns called Amos Troy Rike 2.0 and a bust.

That's how unexpected his game was for some.

[digitalsuperman]

Bro just days before the game clowns called Amos Troy Rike 2.0 and a bust.

That's how unexpected his game was for some.

if you look at his batang gilas performance as well as being invited to play for gilas, he cant be just a troy rike 2.0 as the kid is capable. one can argue that in his previous games in uaap he was hesistant and lacks aggressiveness overall but then again the potential was there as his skills was already known before. maybe they did not expect him to do a lot. but then again this is still the first round and next ateneo games, for sure amos will be marked. however one player that seems lackluster is geo chiu? is he injured or something? i expected more of him this season.