FIBA-Asia Cup 2025 Saudi Arabia

[paolylo]

I might sound like a Tab defender already, but is there even any coach in the local scene who could have turned that Ateneo team into a Final Four contender? After Mason surprisingly left them hanging, the team's morale hit rock bottom. Along with an FSA who doesn’t even seem to know how to play basketball properly, their playoff hopes became even harder to achieve. And even though they finished last, they were only one or two games behind the last Final Four team, if I’m not mistaken. A Kouame-like FSA would have made them a Final Four team.

But Amos wasn't really that much of a difference-maker for Ateneo's plans. At best, he would have given Tab a 5-out option to neutralize whatever advantage teams with freak FSA's have had. He actually posts up more in La Salle and that's with guys like Mike Phillips and FSA's.

As for Ateneo, I kinda miss the banter with them now we gotta deal with the dipshit bandwagoners from UP. It's not as if they were 0-14, they lost two close games that would have made them challenge for a Final Four. They started winning when Bahay became a bit more creative with the ball. The kid made the right choice to go to Ateneo and have Tenorio-like freshman minutes instead of being on the bench in UP.

[paolylo]

Giving them exposure earlier in their careers is what i meant..

he should not give alas, gemao, pre late exposure to seniors..

When he'll give exposure to them when they're 30?

That's just about as PBA as you can get. Meanwhile, Japan got a pipeline of guys like Watanabe and Kawamura who started out as the last guys on the bench in the senior team fresh from U18's but end up establishing pro careers while being on the pool for competitions when available and actually progressing the more they get in FIBA minutes. Notice how great they became after they got their shit together when merging their leagues in 2016.

I'd like nothing more than the PBA to burn itself to the ground just to have a fresh restart. I really can't see a future for guys like Alas and Gemao in the PBA, they're better off abroad than wasting their potential... by being treated like they're still being developed even at age 26.

[paolylo]

Tab Baldwin tried to prevent Kai from going to the US or Europe and wanted him to stick to Ateneo. He deserves criticism.

Why would he stick to Ateneo? Kai's idiot handlers then at EWP were convinced he could rejoin G-League Ignite in the bubble after having spent weeks in quarantine for a 2-day practice in Calamba (with Kiefer being the only PBA player in Tab's Gilas practices, and this was when Thirdy hasn't made public his B.League plan yet)... and it backfired spectacularly in his face where he ended up doing them Star Margarine and Smart commercials before going back to the US where he'd spend even more time in quarantine until he wasn't even allowed in the G-League Bubble.

His Gilas games at the AUF gym vs Korea and Indonesia were nothing more than coincidental-consuelo de bobo for being kicked out of the G-League. Best guess is that Kai's people were already looking at the LaMelo Ball route (and if you believe that Snow Badua, there were also standing offers in Europe). Going to Ateneo was the last resort.

[IPC]

Or pba doesnt adjust its schedule to fiba asia cup tournament. Kbl and japan guys will be free from june onwards meanwhile pba still ongoing.

They scheduled gamedays on Sundays, Wednesdays, Fridays, and Saturdays. Back to 4 gamedays a week, from 6.

Coach Tim said that the PBA ends on July 27. The FIBA Asia Cup starts on August 5. Isang linggo lang mahigit ang pagitan (Just barely over a week in between).

[Silent Killer]

Declined invitations

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[lem0nadi]

Tab is good but he just got last place in the UAAP. I think he has issues dealing with individual personalities and thats his weakness as a coach. Its what got Ateneo screwed last season and its also why he wasnt able to last as the NT coach.

I might sound like a Tab defender already, but is there even any coach in the local scene who could have turned that Ateneo team into a Final Four contender? After Mason surprisingly left them hanging, the team's morale hit rock bottom. Along with an FSA who doesn’t even seem to know how to play basketball properly, their playoff hopes became even harder to achieve. And even though they finished last, they were only one or two games behind the last Final Four team, if I’m not mistaken. A Kouame-like FSA would have made them a Final Four team.

[Sikatrix]

Giving them exposure earlier in their careers is what i meant..

he should not give alas, gemao, pre late exposure to seniors..

When he'll give exposure to them when they're 30?

CTC is already 67, I think this is his last run. Then it will be a question of continuity(triangle) vs something new altogether. Personally, I think we should move on from the triangle past Tim Cone and hard reset once he is done.

[Silent Killer]

Thinking Tim is the one to deal with the development of Kieffer and Andy is massive mistake. The seniors national team being the ones in charge of developing talents is wrong thinking. Mason's development is mostly on La Salle, not on Tim even if he is part of the pool. Much more Kieffer and Andy.

Giving them exposure earlier in their careers is what i meant..

he should not give alas, gemao, pre late exposure to seniors..

When he'll give exposure to them when they're 30?

[Sikatrix]

Question

does tim knows the players like kieffer alas? andy gemao? veejay pre? jared bahay? javi GDL? dalph panopio? even does he know ron harper jr.? (i know i suggest this one real hard) does he know francis lopez?

Thinking Tim is the one to deal with the development of Kieffer and Andy is massive mistake. The seniors national team being the ones in charge of developing talents is wrong thinking. Mason's development is mostly on La Salle, not on Tim even if he is part of the pool. Much more Kieffer and Andy.

[BJ_Reloaded]

if that "every Monday Practice only" pushes thru..hmm..

let's put it into details for a particular scenario: assuming the current conf ends on July 27 and our very first game in FIBA Asia starts on the 5th of Aug.

if they decided to start it in first week of June up to last week of July.

there are 5 Mondays in the month of June plus 4 Mondays for the month of July

which is July 28.

so that's only 9 days plus from July 29 to Aug. 4 it's 7 days

so overall it's just 16 days.

oh dear!!! that's not enough bec. ballers from SMB and TNT will only available on the 28th assuming they are the one who will play for the championship and the series stretches until Game 7.

as per Grandpa Dean, CTC will gave those players at least 3 days of rest so meaning that team will only be completed on the 31st

so overall, it will only takes 4 days for them to re-familiarize again to the Triangle, each other's tendencies and other x's and o's.

man oh man!!!

enough of that "every Monday thing" sasama lang kalooban natin sa resulta ng mga laro against those toughies trans. it will not be beneficial and inspiring on Team PHIL for the coming edition.

as I said many times before and until now,

because of circumstances, attending the Barangay practice is the best option

"kunsabagay" if the real intention was to defend the Asian Games basketball gold at all cost next year.

then finishing in the top 10 is the realistic goal for Gilas Men for FIBA Asia Cup if the "every monday practice will be the unanimous choice.

[Sikatrix]

tim deserves to be criticise.. he has the most titles in PBA doesn’t mean he gets a pass..

he’s a NT coach but he doesn’t act like one.. lack of awareness to how things runs for NT..

Ive always thought prioritizing the NT is a bandaid to hide our real issue, which is poor youth development. Our top local prospects are long shots to make D1(Gemao/Alas). Is that gonna change anytime soon? Ideally we should aim to develop NBA level talent but when even D1 is an issue, I think the future aint great. So complain all you want about the NT but the root issues will remain unchanged until we fix something(resource allocation).

[Silent Killer]

Question

does tim knows the players like kieffer alas? andy gemao? veejay pre? jared bahay? javi GDL? dalph panopio? even does he know ron harper jr.? (i know i suggest this one real hard) does he know francis lopez?

[Sikatrix]

As much as it was a poor decision by Tab, it wasn’t related to Gilas. At that time, Kai wasn’t yet part of the senior program.

It was more of a personal and school-related matter.

Even if Kai had gone to the UAAP, he would still have ended up in the B.League like where he is now, right?

Tab, as a coach, is incredibly good. Going overseas was definitely the right choice for Kai, but playing under Tab wouldn’t have been bad either. I assume he would’ve only spent 1 to 2 years in the UAAP since he’s clearly overqualified for the local collegiate scene.

After all, had he left the UAAP after a year or two season, his only option would’ve been to go overseas anyway. And who knows, playing competitively in the UAAP could have been better than that one year he spent not playing in the G League. He basically wasn’t playing pro basketball for almost a year during that time, before playing in NBL.

Tab is good but he just got last place in the UAAP. I think he has issues dealing with individual personalities and thats his weakness as a coach. Its what got Ateneo screwed last season and its also why he wasnt able to last as the NT coach.

[JAMSKIE]

Did KQ will participate Summer league? So that means he is also not available for most of Gilas practice... He will be busy in summer league sessions from late June to mid July at peak...

Well KQ hardly gets playing time in Gilas' big games so maybe coach Tim can afford KQ not getting enough practices with Gilas prior to the Asia Cup. KQ is perhaps a 10th or an 11th man in the roster so ok lang that he'll miss a number of practices.

But to be honest, I like coach Tim to give KQ ample playing time & scoring opportunities at Gilas. I'm thinking maybe KQ should eat up some of the minutes of Calvin Oftana who has struggled with his shooting in the FIBA game.

[lem0nadi]

Tab got a hell of a pass by the fans. Even when he did stupid things like trying to bring Kai to the UAAP. Its the powers that be wherein Tim Cone is more well thought off.

As much as it was a poor decision by Tab, it wasn’t related to Gilas. At that time, Kai wasn’t yet part of the senior program.

It was more of a personal and school-related matter.

Even if Kai had gone to the UAAP, he would still have ended up in the B.League like where he is now, right?

Tab, as a coach, is incredibly good. Going overseas was definitely the right choice for Kai, but playing under Tab wouldn’t have been bad either. I assume he would’ve only spent 1 to 2 years in the UAAP since he’s clearly overqualified for the local collegiate scene.

After all, had he left the UAAP after a year or two season, his only option would’ve been to go overseas anyway. And who knows, playing competitively in the UAAP could have been better than that one year he spent not playing in the G League. He basically wasn’t playing pro basketball for almost a year during that time, before playing in NBL.