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  • Gilas playing in Jeddah is like playing at home unless they are playing KSA. Hordes of Filipino fans will definitely swarm venues in every Gilas’ playdates. I am hoping we will not be drawn in the same group as the hosts. Third place or bronze finish is doable.

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    • What is the significance of the February window? *If we are already qualified

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      • Originally posted by Blueorgreen22 View Post
        What is the significance of the February window? *If we are already qualified

        Valentine's

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        • Originally posted by Blueorgreen22 View Post
          What is the significance of the February window? *If we are already qualified
          Nothing. Just bragging rights. You know, Filipinos hate losing.
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          • Originally posted by ja.he View Post

            Nothing. Just bragging rights. You know, Filipinos hate losing.
            My main concern with winning/losing in the 3rd Window is its impact on our rankings

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            • Originally posted by Blueorgreen22 View Post
              What is the significance of the February window? *If we are already qualified
              Confidence booster.

              Beating the Kiwis is always a big deal.

              Losing to Taiwan isn’t great PR wise.

              The SBP doesn’t want flak from the public like what happened with Chot.

              The Gilas program profits by having a strong fanbase with positive reception. They have that currently with CTC and, arguably, Long Hair.

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              • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                Confidence booster.

                Beating the Kiwis is always a big deal.

                Losing to Taiwan isn’t great PR wise.

                The SBP doesn’t want flak from the public like what happened with Chot.

                The Gilas program profits by having a strong fanbase with positive reception. They have that currently with CTC and, arguably, Long Hair.
                It sounded like the SBP was banking on Chot's performance in 2013-2024 but the embarassing losses and performances post 2016 really got on people's nerves especially losing to Indonesia with a lot PBA players and the unflattering WC performance added to the fire of anger

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                • Originally posted by Artek View Post

                  My main concern with winning/losing in the 3rd Window is its impact on our rankings

                  See,we hate losing,we even care about that,thinking that other Asian countries above us don't deserved to be there,it should be us.

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                  • Originally posted by ARMIR View Post


                    See,we hate losing,we even care about that,thinking that other Asian countries above us don't deserved to be there,it should be us.
                    Where is it implied other Asian countries not to be there? While not a totality, rankings are good assessment of the programs. When we slipped, it truly was reflective of how the program went downhill. We went from 32 in 2021 to 38 in 2023. If we do bad in the third Window to the point of losing to CT and NZ beating us by 20-40 points, that meant we got lazy and overconfident simply because we have secured our spot.

                    FIBA has way more weight than the SEA Games. Rules in the SEA Games are set by the host country so it can be rigged to their favor (again, we also do this when we are host).

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                    • Originally posted by Artek View Post

                      Where is it implied other Asian countries not to be there? While not a totality, rankings are good assessment of the programs. When we slipped, it truly was reflective of how the program went downhill. We went from 32 in 2021 to 38 in 2023. If we do bad in the third Window to the point of losing to CT and NZ beating us by 20-40 points, that meant we got lazy and overconfident simply because we have secured our spot.

                      FIBA has way more weight than the SEA Games. Rules in the SEA Games are set by the host country so it can be rigged to their favor (again, we also do this when we are host).
                      True... If a team perform poor in past tournaments, their rankings will decrease faster, just look at Spain? From top ranked team last year, now become number 7... That's why rankings are important to assess if a national team doing good or not...

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                      • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
                        Yes, true. It's pretty much the same format. Last window of ACQ will be an interesting one as the Kazakhstan/India, Guam/Mongolia, Iraq/Palestine, and UAE/Syria battle it out for the final qualifying tournament. We'll get to see some first times for the WCQ and traditional ones not make it.

                        Based on the current rankings, the pots could go like this:

                        Pot 1: Australia + Japan

                        Pot 2: Iran + Lebanon

                        Pot 3: New Zealand + China

                        Pot 4: Jordan + KSA

                        Pot 5: Philippines + Korea

                        Pot 6: Qatar + Bahrain

                        Pot 7: Guam/Mongolia + Taiwan/Thailand

                        Pot 8: India/Kazakhstan + UAE/Syria

                        There's a possibility (if the rankings stay unchanged) that Australia and New Zealand could be drawn in the same group in the first round.

                        Best case scenario:

                        Japan
                        China
                        Philippines
                        Mongolia/Guam

                        Worst case scenario:

                        Australia
                        New Zealand
                        Philippines
                        Taiwan

                        We need to improve our rankings by placing high in the Asia Cup.
                        We might need at least a semifinal appearance in this Asia Cup to help our rankings and maybe get better matchups in the World Cup windows.

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                        • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                          We might need at least a semifinal appearance in this Asia Cup to help our rankings and maybe get better matchups in the World Cup windows.
                          Semis is doable. Finals will depend if Australia isn't in our bracket.

                          I honestly don't see any team beating them aside from full-team Japan.

                          I don't see Tim risking Kai for this tournament, which makes the task of beating the Boomers harder.

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                          • with the latest situation reaching the medal rounds is the best that our team can do.

                            before the main and only option is to aim to reclaim that FIBA Asia trophy nothing less

                            because we already had the tools to get along with AUS Team B and NZL's Team B as well.

                            with Kai and AJ spearheading our frontline alongside JMF, Carl and JB

                            unless Grandpa Chualay uses his full audacity to get an exemption to AK34 which is already ripe

                            and QMB's claimed that he had this green covered document since he was still a child

                            well at least it lessen our worrisome with the absence of Kai and AJ's not yet reaching his full momentum yet.

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                            • Originally posted by BJ_Reloaded View Post
                              with the latest situation reaching the medal rounds is the best that our team can do.

                              before the main and only option is to aim to reclaim that FIBA Asia trophy nothing less

                              because we already had the tools to get along with AUS Team B and NZL's Team B as well.

                              with Kai and AJ spearheading our frontline alongside JMF, Carl and JB

                              unless Grandpa Chualay uses his full audacity to get an exemption to AK34 which is already ripe

                              and QMB's claimed that he had this green covered document since he was still a child

                              well at least it lessen our worrisome with the absence of Kai and AJ's not yet reaching his full momentum yet.
                              Also, will the team go with Boatwright immediately or stick to JB?

                              The guy will turn 37 this year.

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                              • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                                Also, will the team go with Boatwright immediately or stick to JB?

                                The guy will turn 37 this year.
                                I will go for Brownlee.. this might be his Gilas swansong before retires for Gilas.. he deserve it by the way ... I have still more confident with Brownlee rather than Boatwright even with the former's advance age...

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