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  • Originally posted by Rds View Post
    I guess the best we can do is play positionless basketball so small guys are not trained for big positions just by default.
    Originally posted by zuma169 View Post
    Are we really still into height obsession? I thought all of us are praising and glorifying Japan? Dba maliit din sila? but they are well trained and skilled.. that is the most important thing..
    china is china.. they are always focused on height no matter what..

    if you see the other line-ups hindi naman nagkalayo heights.. china lang talaga is being china..

    skill and talent above all!
    Originally posted by Rds View Post
    Yes. Reality is on average we’re a short people. You can’t reasonably expect every batch to have tall prospects. This is why we need to maximize the exposure to modern ball for the few 6’7 and up kids we get.
    Best we can do is train every 6'6" and under player to play the perimeter, and every 6'4" and under player to play both guard positions, instead of having 6'1"-6'4" players play exclusively as wings without learning PG skills.

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    • Originally posted by Gh@strider View Post

      Again, who are the tall guys who are available and at the National team's disposal? Not trying to defend Coach, but merely pointing out that this is the best available talent.

      I'm not going to put Andewil Yap, Deydi De Ocampo or even Owen Calanasan because these tall guys are raw! Also, the other taller players pulled out because of various reasons: money, logistics, school adjustment.

      I get it that it's frustrating that it looks like we can't form a competitive national team, but it is what it is. It's as if we can magically produce a team of 6'4 and up players like Lithuania 16U. It's not in our (asian) genes and oftentimes nutrition, or rather the lack of it, plays a role in the (deficient) height of our players.

      I attended from day 1 of the tryouts. Wala talagang malalaki in this age group.
      Sir,
      That is why the National Federation of the sports should establish a genuine grassroots program to cover all those you’ve mentioned, now that the FIBA World Cup 2023 are officially over it’s high time to pour out the big chunk of the budget to those kids in preparation for the next cycle.

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      • We need vision from our leaders.

        Look at Yuto Kawashima's performance in the U16. He was amazing and dominant. Casual observers will only notice that performance and think he's innately good. But the thing that made him dominate that age group is...the previous year he was already playing in their World Cup U19 team against world-level players 3 years older than him. He only averaged 10 minutes and 2 pts in that tournament but the fruit came in the U16s.

        "One step backward, two steps forward."


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        • Originally posted by BJ_Reloaded View Post

          Sir,
          That is why the National Federation of the sports should establish a genuine grassroots program to cover all those you’ve mentioned, now that the FIBA World Cup 2023 are officially over it’s high time to pour out the big chunk of the budget to those kids in preparation for the next cycle.
          Again, with what budget? Some players had to pull out because they could not afford the daily angkas commute from their school to the practice/try out venue. Kung wala ang tatay ni Irus Chua, malamang walang packed dinner ang players and coaching staff at uuwi sila ng gutom at 1030pm.

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          • Originally posted by Gh@strider View Post

            Again, with what budget? Some players had to pull out because they could not afford the daily angkas commute from their school to the practice/try out venue. Kung wala ang tatay ni Irus Chua, malamang walang packed dinner ang players and coaching staff at uuwi sila ng gutom at 1030pm.
            So are you saying since a big chunk of SBP budget goes to the FIBA World Cup, the U16 Boys are the collateral damage. I hope the next SBP officials should also give priority with our grassroot program. I will not be surprised if there will be only handful of Boys will join the next tournaments.
            Trolls are inutile individuals who want to look like the wiser and the best. But generally their are helpless, weakest and the ugly..Bato bato sa langit ang tamaan guilty.

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            • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

              Roster and Heights?
              here's the roster 378281440_706103478230225_1691707682684545609_n.jpg

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              • Originally posted by Gh@strider View Post

                Again, with what budget? Some players had to pull out because they could not afford the daily angkas commute from their school to the practice/try out venue. Kung wala ang tatay ni Irus Chua, malamang walang packed dinner ang players and coaching staff at uuwi sila ng gutom at 1030pm.
                this are the times when you need a Romero in the roster. Mikee could have bankrolled the team

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                • Originally posted by Gh@strider View Post

                  Again, with what budget? Some players had to pull out because they could not afford the daily angkas commute from their school to the practice/try out venue. Kung wala ang tatay ni Irus Chua, malamang walang packed dinner ang players and coaching staff at uuwi sila ng gutom at 1030pm.
                  We all know that the oligarch are the one who are shouldering majority of the expenses of the Federation, as for the other stakeholders, partners and sponsors I had no idea about their percentage of contributions. That is why it is very alarming on all of us IBNers this posted message of yours because it seems that it’s like a “KKB thing” as far as expenses on our youth team. I dunno know the full details of the by-laws of the SBP but as far as I know, budget about national bound players are shouldered by the NSA and the PSC/POC must also pitch in as well because were talking about Philippine representation here at the International level.

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                  • If I'm SBP I will let Delta Pineda takeover the U16 and U18 because he has a lot money to spend....if you watch the MPBL JUNIORS his team dominating the league and he develop good and tall players.... if you watch his under 14 team you will see a tall and good players. One player on his under 14 team name Guinto his about 6'3 to 6'4

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                    • Originally posted by BJ_Reloaded View Post

                      We all know that the oligarch are the one who are shouldering majority of the expenses of the Federation, as for the other stakeholders, partners and sponsors I had no idea about their percentage of contributions. That is why it is very alarming on all of us IBNers this posted message of yours because it seems that it’s like a “KKB thing” as far as expenses on our youth team. I dunno know the full details of the by-laws of the SBP but as far as I know, budget about national bound players are shouldered by the NSA and the PSC/POC must also pitch in as well because were talking about Philippine representation here at the International level.
                      Our basketball overlords dont have their priorities in order. If they did they'd actually prioritize our youth but we all know where they actually put their money.

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                      • so when do we see joke reyes resign? haha
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                        • Originally posted by live_evil View Post
                          so when do we see joke reyes resign? haha
                          If SMC really takes over, I'd doubt they keep him. Cabbagie or Tenorio maybe? Cabagnot makes a lot of sense personally. Should be an excellent recruiter in the US since he founded FAN.

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                          • Originally posted by IPC View Post





                            Best we can do is train every 6'6" and under player to play the perimeter, and every 6'4" and under player to play both guard positions, instead of having 6'1"-6'4" players play exclusively as wings without learning PG skills.
                            I feel like the 2022 U18 was the most balanced team we had so far, in terms of height, Even if nobody was above 6'9. that team has four 6'7 and above players that can play multiple positions up front and in the perimeter ( Seven, Kobe D, Pablo, Amos). and it has two 6'4 guards in Gamber and Coronel, plus a 6'5 SF in Andres.

                            Too bad SBP and Josh dont have the foresight to insert U-16ers 6'6 Calleum, 6'7 Konov, 6'5 Bayla and 6'2 Compenente in the lineup, only 5'9 Bahay made it. This possible additions, coupled with better coaching, could have made the team finish better than 6th out of 8 countries. Maybe even a podium finish

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                            • Originally posted by Dotch View Post

                              I feel like the 2022 U18 was the most balanced team we had so far, in terms of height, Even if nobody was above 6'9. that team has four 6'7 and above players that can play multiple positions up front and in the perimeter ( Seven, Kobe D, Pablo, Amos). and it has two 6'4 guards in Gamber and Coronel, plus a 6'5 SF in Andres.

                              Too bad SBP and Josh dont have the foresight to insert U-16ers 6'6 Calleum, 6'7 Konov, 6'5 Bayla and 6'2 Compenente in the lineup, only 5'9 Bahay made it. This possible additions, coupled with better coaching, could have made the team finish better than 6th out of 8 countries. Maybe even a podium finish
                              Id guess those guys needed to play some AAU so they couldn't play both u16 and u18.

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                              • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post

                                Id guess those guys needed to play some AAU so they couldn't play both u16 and u18.
                                or back to school. sayang talga

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