47th PBA Season (Philippine Cup, Commissioner’s Cup & Governor’s Cup)

[Rds]

Mikey Williams provided loads of offense. He was lucky though his teammates produced two stops after he misses 2 FTs that couldve iced the game.

RHJ was brilliant. It goes to show what NBA level athleticism and length can do to even thePBAs best import ever.

Kudos to TNTs defensive 5 of RHJ, Erram, Oftana, Rosser and Khobuntin. Not sure why GSM didnt hunt an Erram Brownlee switch.

[PaulLee3]

“Coach Jojo Lastimosa is the Ginebra Killer. He beat them as a player, and he outcoached them as a Coach”

[IPC]

RHJ just too much for BGSM

TNT beat Ginebra with its own version of positionless basketball. Add additional effort and a better import who plays with great effort as well.

[CoJ]

so, is Mikey Williams eligible? lol

hahaha , speaks volumes about the league, a NBA G league discard dominating a series even if it appears that he is disinterested and doesn't show much effort

Mikey should be a default member of any Gilas team in a non-FIBA sanctioned tournament

[CoJ]

RHJ just too much for BGSM

[Joe Yabuki]

so, is Mikey Williams eligible? lol

[all_about]

The ginebra and tnt series is over later ladies and gentlemen.

[Joe Yabuki]

Correct. Someone like RHJ is too much for Brownlee. RHJ might be a horrible offensive player by NBA standards ( one of the reasons he's playing in the PBA instead of the NBA) but that doesn't matter in the PBA where the defense is way below NBA standards. He's like a smaller LeBron in there

Should we start courting RHJ for naturalization?

[IPC]

I think calvon oftana had it (that troy was lacking).. but story is rhj out producing brownlee on this series..

I think it helped Yeng played him more as SF/SG in NLEX despite initially wanting him to play PF. There he created from the perimeter. Also his early exposure in Gilas surely helped. Made him aware what he needed to compete at that level. Troy was never developed to be like that. Chot or who ever was his coach just wanted him to be a mobile PF like old Kelly. Like an Arwind. Kudos also to Calvin's college. They have a good track record of developing mobile skilled forwards.

And like it or not it was actually Pogoys injury that allowed him to play his role in NLEX in TNT. Prior to that he was more of a Troy role because there were already a lot of ball dominant players in TNT.

Troy had the tools to be a switchable four, e. TNT just screwed up his development. He was 23 as a rookie, so there was still time and room. Sure, the environment and context at the time wasn't really towards positionless basketball, but that was already the time when positionless ball was showing up with the Big 3 Heat and the 2015-19 Dubs. The groundwork was already being laid. Man, that was a wasted opportunity. Instead of being a versatile forward, he became just a stretch four with a high motor, but a defensive liability. Even Arwind and Kelly could move laterally and cover ground on defense.

At least TNT didn't screw up with Oftana. They staggered his minutes, as well as Castro's, Pogoy's, and Mikey's, and allowed him to play as a shot creating 2/3 after relegating him to a 3&D role.

[thatweirdguy]

Brownlee is a good import no doubt, but he’ll get trashed by younger ex nba players, RHJ is just tiers above JB

Correct. Someone like RHJ is too much for Brownlee. RHJ might be a horrible offensive player by NBA standards ( one of the reasons he's playing in the PBA instead of the NBA) but that doesn't matter in the PBA where the defense is way below NBA standards. He's like a smaller LeBron in there

[reamily]

Ginebra doesnt need star players they need depth..even fajardo had a gabby espinas as backup.. they need someone who is kobile who can bang bodies that glenn khobuntin does ala caelan tiongson

[CoJ]

This really shows the limitation of Brownlee. Yes he is skilled, good work ethic. But he is old for a basketball player. An ace SF like RHJ can neutralize him. Well JB can be more of a glue guy I guess.

Brownlee is a good import no doubt, but he’ll get trashed by younger ex nba players, RHJ is just tiers above JB

[Rds]

It would be good long term for ginebra if they ever lose this one as they will now rely outside of brownlee from now on..

This really shows the limitation of Brownlee. Yes he is skilled, good work ethic. But he is old for a basketball player. An ace SF like RHJ can neutralize him. Well JB can be more of a glue guy I guess.

[Rds]

I think calvon oftana had it (that troy was lacking).. but story is rhj out producing brownlee on this series..

I think it helped Yeng played him more as SF/SG in NLEX despite initially wanting him to play PF. There he created from the perimeter. Also his early exposure in Gilas surely helped. Made him aware what he needed to compete at that level. Troy was never developed to be like that. Chot or who ever was his coach just wanted him to be a mobile PF like old Kelly. Like an Arwind. Kudos also to Calvin's college. They have a good track record of developing mobile skilled forwards.

And like it or not it was actually Pogoys injury that allowed him to play his role in NLEX in TNT. Prior to that he was more of a Troy role because there were already a lot of ball dominant players in TNT.

[reamily]

It would be good long term for ginebra if they ever lose this one as they will now rely outside of brownlee from now on..