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  • whata choke job.

    so weird to suddenly put in a cold ilagan who has barely played the entire game during the clutch.

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      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
        Bro, do U think Marlou Aquino would have been that good a shot blocker if he was 2 inches shorter. I think he would have been a significantly less efficient shot blocker if he was only 6-foot-7. Yes, shot blocking isn't really about height as aspects like timing, athleticism & even basketball I. Q. are even more important, but one can't deny that height matters in shot blocking & and 2-inch difference in height matters significantly.

        Ask this questions to everyone: Would you want Kai Sotto to be 2 inches shorter than his actual height? Would you prefer a 6-foot-3 Dwight Ramos than a 6-foot-5 one (of course given the same skills, speed, athleticism, & basketball I. Q.)? Would Gabe Norwood have been as effective a wing defender if he is 2 inches shorter?

        Please somebody tell me that its no big deal that Kai Sotto is 7-foot-2 & not just 7-foot-flat. I think everyone here except zairex would agree that even just a 2-inch height difference matters.
        a bit of a zag but i would look more into their wing spans. (considering everything else is equal: defensive awareness, quicknessm etc.)

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        • Originally posted by dubidub View Post
          a bit of a zag but i would look more into their wing spans. (considering everything else is equal: defensive awareness, quicknessm etc.)
          Bro, its with the notion that a player who is 2 inches taller would have longer wingspan than the other guy. There's that thing called proportion.
          "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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          • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
            Bro, its with the notion that a player who is 2 inches taller would have longer wingspan than the other guy. There's that thing called proportion.
            that's not always true. THT is 6'5 but has a 7'1 wingspan. Mykhailuk is 6'6 with a 6'6 wingspan.

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            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
              Bro, its with the notion that a player who is 2 inches taller would have longer wingspan than the other guy. There's that thing called proportion.
              Yes but usually just two inches also. But some have long wingspan like Pingris has 80 inch wingspan. Aside from the motor and other attributes thats why he is a better defender than players with two inches taller.

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              • don't get me wrong tho, of course height is important and tend to gravitate towards taller players considering all other things.

                but in basketball were there are a lot of physical freaks, there will be biological outliers. i wouldn't use height as an end all be all.

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                • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                  I will put prime abueva. Defensive skills, timing and motor. He will be a better defender than Dwight at just 6'1"
                  Here's the thing with Abueva, though. He's unique. He has a combination of speed, jumping ability, strength, and motor, which not many 6'1"-6'2" players have.

                  He and Thirdy are the only 6'2" guys in recent memory that are successful at defending from the 3 position internationally. At least from what I've seen. The rest I've seen are Gabe, Dwight, Navarro, and probably MGR, all 6'4" and above. You're more likely to find good wing defenders from the latter taller group, although their length and defensive instincts also helped.

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                  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                    Bro, its with the notion that a player who is 2 inches taller would have longer wingspan than the other guy. There's that thing called proportion.
                    Agree with this. Wingspan is actually more important in basketball than height. CJ Perez at 6'2 is taller than Abueva at 6'1.5. Perez is probably more explosive and better footspeed. He has better handles and shooting form. But Abueva has superior wingspan that allows him to play PF in the PBA and SF internationally. Perez for his athletic advantage is better as an SG because of his shorter wingspan. Abueva and Pingris wouldnt be the players they are if they didnt have long wingspan for their height.

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                    • Parang benta ung mali nung isang player, may history ba un player na yun?

                      Translation:

                      What a match! An unfortunate loss for BW but luck was with BG side.
                      Samahan ng mga Bopol ng Pilipinas

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                      • Originally posted by bluenote49 View Post
                        Parang benta ung mali nung isang player, may history ba un player na yun?

                        Translation:

                        What a match! An unfortunate loss for BW but luck was with BG side.
                        Yup Amer did not look good in the last plays to me. Seemed a basic mistake dribbling on your own foot on the last play and also dribbling into a crowd.

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                        • Originally posted by robert0326
                          Before that, He make a crucial jumper that gave Converge a lead... But they pressured against more experienced TNT squad... Olsen Racela vibes for Ilagan today!!!!
                          He is a very clutch shooter. Thats why the missed FTs were a surprise. That shot couldve been the FG that won the game if he made just one FT.

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                          • Originally posted by robert0326
                            Amer seems he will be a MPBL bound in foresee future... He doesn't improve since his rookie years... He has no value at all....
                            I thought he was going to be a superstar back in 2016 when Meralco made it into the finals.

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                            • Originally posted by robert0326
                              He has no eagerness to improve... He's OK just to have salary then nothing else... No passion at all... Teams doesn't want that attitude for a player...
                              He regressed. At one point he was a GILAS member. And he's never the same player after his name started coming up in trade rumours. His game got worse when he got actually got traded. He's a guy who's got shaky confidence. Also him being out of shape coming in during the pandemic didn't help either.

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                              • Originally posted by dubidub View Post
                                that's not always true. THT is 6'5 but has a 7'1 wingspan. Mykhailuk is 6'6 with a 6'6 wingspan.
                                My point is, when I say "player A is 2 inches taller than player B" then it follows that player A has a longer wingspan than player B (though of course its not always the case). When I say "I'll always take a 6-foot-5 version of Dwight Ramos than the 6-foot-3 one" (with skills, speed, athleticism & court smarts being equal), then I also mean that the 6-5 Dwight has a longer wingspan than the 6-foot-3 one. Automatic na yan becoz this is just hypothetical lang naman.
                                "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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