47th PBA Season (Philippine Cup, Commissioner’s Cup & Governor’s Cup)

[jasper222]

PBA is too predictable that we can even say its scripted.

I wouldn't go that far but who knows diba. Plausible deniability and all that.

I hope that Bay Area didn't come off of this season feeling cheated, because that will serve as positive PR for the PBA and maybe finally start heading in the right direction even with the current eggheads in charge. Maybe I'm hoping for too much.

[Supremo30]

That means the likes of Douthit, Blatche and Kouame will be allowed too.. And this will change the landscape of the league as whole... Brownlee might be the best of them but Blatche will be the most impactful player out there... He will easily kill the competition even he's out of shape... A 3 to 5 month conditioning will be enough for Blatche to be on shape, PBA management might think of this one...

The other question here is how much will be their salary? Do you think Andray will agree to play here as local and just getting 450k pesos a month??? I don't think so.

[Giannis34GOD]

The other question here is how much will be their salary? Do you think Andray will agree to play here as local and just getting 450k pesos a month??? I don't think so.

I think Blatche will consider this one now in his current status, He's not hot commodity unlike before....

[Silent Killer]

https://www.onesports.ph/pba/article/8966/kababayan-justin-brownlee-wishes-he-can-play-as-a-pba-local?fbclid=IwAR2x85i-htLAS1dfhys3v5XzReu46MuFqcF1SBZSTnCsAbewKn2BpWZ-A9U

[IPC]

Malonzo indeed was the difference maker in game 7. Goorjan was saying that their presence brings improvement to their opponents as well as to their team. And it is exemplified by the improvement of Standhardingers game as well as Malonzo. CS in the PBA was all about bulldozing opponents. But now his "jumper" a bit farther from the rim has been money. Malonzo on the other hand showed why a 6'2 import, no matter how good he is, can be nullified by a tall active SF. BAD was forced to play Powell at 3 so they could also play Yang and Lam. Malonzo abused them on the boards because of this. And punished them later when they sagged off him.

Tall SFs have generally not been useful in the Philippine setting because of the extreme phyisicality allowed. Laterals and dribbling skill become useless if your are mugged everytime you drive in the paint. But if calls were like in game 7 they will allow the Malonzos to thrive and actually help Philippine basketball develop to the modern era.

Hopefully, when guys like Zav Lucero arrive in the PBA, and guys like Oftana, Gray, Malonzo, and Navarro (if he stays in the PBA) develop their skillsets as tall SFs, taller players at SF become the norm.

This actually brings me to another question. Why are 6'2"-6'3" SFs preferable to 6'5"-6'7" SFs?

[BJ_Reloaded]

The PBA should really amend that old rule. Naturalized players should be allowed to play in the AFC.

It's for the PBA to study the situation. If ever PBA allows them to play as a local, how will be the recuitemnet process? Are they going to be direct hires or they'll undergo special draft?

That means the likes of Douthit, Blatche and Kouame will be allowed too.. And this will change the landscape of the league as whole... Brownlee might be the best of them but Blatche will be the most impactful player out there... He will easily kill the competition even he's out of shape... A 3 to 5 month conditioning will be enough for Blatche to be on shape, PBA management might think of this one...

If theres someone that can break that rule its JB, feel like PBA if demanded by fans enough will cave in since allowing naturalized players as well as College imports to play might be tempting enough to mitigate the talent drain of players going overseas

I think a Special Draft(Lottery) is fair enough, put Marcus Douhit, JB and Andre Blatche in the mixture alongside Fil-Foreign guys who are already beyond 30 yrs. Old(we already aware that there is already a provision in the by-laws that they are not allowed to submit their name in the regular drafting because of the age restrictions) like Jason Brickman, DJ Fenner, Scuba Holt, Mikh Mckinney and let those 6 teams from the bottom of the standings from 7th to 12th according to the draft ranking had 2 balls on those 10th to 12th ranked; 1 balls each for the 7th to 9th ranked. I think that?s good idea considering those mentioned players are already confirmed Filipinos thru a decree and thru their mothers(Fil Foreign).

[Supremo30]

I think a Special Draft(Lottery) is fair enough, put Marcus Douhit, JB and Andre Blatche in the mixture alongside Fil-Foreign guys who are already beyond 30 yrs. Old(we already aware that there is already a provision in the by-laws that they are not allowed to submit their name in the regular drafting because of the age restrictions) like Jason Brickman, DJ Fenner, Scuba Holt, Mikh Mckinney and let those 6 teams from the bottom of the standings from 7th to 12th according to the draft ranking had 2 balls on those 10th to 12th ranked; 1 balls each for the 7th to 9th ranked. I think that?s good idea considering those mentioned players are already confirmed Filipinos thru a decree and thru their mothers(Fil Foreign).

You can also throw then of other FSA who now resides here, the likes of Ola Adeogun, Prinze Eze, Kirk Long and others

[Rds]

Hopefully, when guys like Zav Lucero arrive in the PBA, and guys like Oftana, Gray, Malonzo, and Navarro (if he stays in the PBA) develop their skillsets as tall SFs, taller players at SF become the norm.

This actually brings me to another question. Why are 6'2"-6'3" SFs preferable to 6'5"-6'7" SFs?

I think the physicality in the league makes it harder for taller players to drive the basket. It is more obvious when physicality is applied to smaller players. They are lighter they will react more. The refs have to blow their whistle. Taller players may take the contact initially but certain types of physicality are dangerous when driving. My theory is this freedom of movement thing Goorjan says does not really apply to Philippine basketball. Reminds me of Sinclair. At 6'5 one of the taller SFs when he came into college. But he blew his knee in his rookie year. Even Mac Belo blew his knee in the PBA when he tried to get into the paint more. The only tall SF of the older generation who had a long career was Canaleta. Because the guy shot a lot of jumpers instead of driving it to the hoop. Let's not call Arwind an SF. The guy loses the ball when he has to dribble it more than twice.

[NOiNU]

Hopefully, when guys like Zav Lucero arrive in the PBA, and guys like Oftana, Gray, Malonzo, and Navarro (if he stays in the PBA) develop their skillsets as tall SFs, taller players at SF become the norm.

This actually brings me to another question. Why are 6'2"-6'3" SFs preferable to 6'5"-6'7" SFs?

Necessity. How many 6’ 5” players are still playing center in the highest level to date? We just DIDN’T have that many tall players to go around and as a direct by product the development of these 6’ 5” and up players are stunted and skewed. Notice how the more fluid (in tems of guard/wing skills are concerned) players on that height range come from abroad or are developed there. Even the likes of Paras and Lopez are underdeveloped.

Things have changed, though, as the influx of taller players come in steady rate. Also thanks to the ever growing emphasis on specialized training, coupled by more coaches putting premium on versatility and switchability both in roster make up and in game lineups, we are slowly getting there in terms of having more and more taller and skilled players playing the 3 (and 4) spots.

[IPC]

Necessity. How many 6’ 5” players are still playing center in the highest level to date? We just DIDN’T have that many tall players to go around and as a direct by product the development of these 6’ 5” and up players are stunted and skewed. Notice how the more fluid (in tems of guard/wing skills are concerned) players on that height range come from abroad or are developed there. Even the likes of Paras and Lopez are underdeveloped.

Things have changed, though, as the influx of taller players come in steady rate. Also thanks to the ever growing emphasis on specialized training, coupled by more coaches putting premium on versatility and switchability both in roster make up and in game lineups, we are slowly getting there in terms of having more and more taller and skilled players playing the 3 (and 4) spots.

Yeah, I hope more people here see the value of taller defensive wings (ala Navarro, Malonzo, Lucero) and taller tweeners who can be versatile on defense (ala Draymond Green, Robert Covington). Because, I feel those should be crucial parts in building a team in a Philippine setting, and we're neglecting that aspect. Height and versatility going hand in hand.

I hope the influx of taller players increases at a higher rate, and more coaches putting premium in versatility. Tab did it with Gilas (Navarro, Baltazar, Dwight, Ange) and Ateneo (Navarro, Josh Lazaro), and I think Goldwin followed suit with UP (Lucero, heck even Carl lately; hope that continues with future seasons). In the PBA, we have Ginebra (Gray, Malonzo, Brownlee). Emphasis on versatility should continue.

[carmelo7]

Necessity. How many 6? 5? players are still playing center in the highest level to date? We just DIDN?T have that many tall players to go around and as a direct by product the development of these 6? 5? and up players are stunted and skewed. Notice how the more fluid (in tems of guard/wing skills are concerned) players on that height range come from abroad or are developed there. Even the likes of Paras and Lopez are underdeveloped.

Things have changed, though, as the influx of taller players come in steady rate. Also thanks to the ever growing emphasis on specialized training, coupled by more coaches putting premium on versatility and switchability both in roster make up and in game lineups, we are slowly getting there in terms of having more and more taller and skilled players playing the 3 (and 4) spots.

Speaking of fluidity saw some clips of Kobe Demisana and he looks to be more capable of sliding to the 3 compared to say a Baltazar,Gagate or Tamayo, he's like a raw Tayshaun Prince (lefty,setshot, shotblocker etc)

[carmelo7]

Yeah, I hope more people here see the value of taller defensive wings (ala Navarro, Malonzo, Lucero) and taller tweeners who can be versatile on defense (ala Draymond Green, Robert Covington). Because, I feel those should be crucial parts in building a team in a Philippine setting, and we're neglecting that aspect. Height and versatility going hand in hand.

I hope the influx of taller players increases at a higher rate, and more coaches putting premium in versatility. Tab did it with Gilas (Navarro, Baltazar, Dwight, Ange) and Ateneo (Navarro, Josh Lazaro), and I think Goldwin followed suit with UP (Lucero, heck even Carl lately; hope that continues with future seasons). In the PBA, we have Ginebra (Gray, Malonzo, Brownlee). Emphasis on versatility should continue.

Adding Koon and Balunggay

[sroth3839]

Necessity. How many 6? 5? players are still playing center in the highest level to date? We just DIDN?T have that many tall players to go around and as a direct by product the development of these 6? 5? and up players are stunted and skewed. Notice how the more fluid (in tems of guard/wing skills are concerned) players on that height range come from abroad or are developed there. Even the likes of Paras and Lopez are underdeveloped.

Things have changed, though, as the influx of taller players come in steady rate. Also thanks to the ever growing emphasis on specialized training, coupled by more coaches putting premium on versatility and switchability both in roster make up and in game lineups, we are slowly getting there in terms of having more and more taller and skilled players playing the 3 (and 4) spots.

The only position where I don?t see us consistently producing tall players is the 5. For obvious reasons, of course.

Kai is one of a kind and a healthy Edu is great to have around. However, I say our naturalized players should still be a 6?10+ modern big like 2014 Andray, Jokic, Vucevic, and B. Lopez. I honestly don?t want us to rely on Junemar and Japeth when neither Kai nor Edu are available post-WC2023.

[IPC]

Adding Koon and Balunggay

Oh, forgot about them. Koon has been a good defensive player for Ateneo, while Ballungay has just potential on that end. Hope Ballungay can be a versatile defensive player in addition to his offense. He has the tools, e.

[IPC]

I think the physicality in the league makes it harder for taller players to drive the basket. It is more obvious when physicality is applied to smaller players. They are lighter they will react more. The refs have to blow their whistle. Taller players may take the contact initially but certain types of physicality are dangerous when driving. My theory is this freedom of movement thing Goorjan says does not really apply to Philippine basketball. Reminds me of Sinclair. At 6'5 one of the taller SFs when he came into college. But he blew his knee in his rookie year. Even Mac Belo blew his knee in the PBA when he tried to get into the paint more. The only tall SF of the older generation who had a long career was Canaleta. Because the guy shot a lot of jumpers instead of driving it to the hoop. Let's not call Arwind an SF. The guy loses the ball when he has to dribble it more than twice.

Do we add Will Navarro to the list of SFs who blew their knees? He tore his ACL after a good 8 games.