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  • What is material to the point , is this question - Are the weaker World cup teams in 2014 and 2019 come mostly from a particular zones (e.g. Asia and Africa)?

    Well here are the results

    In 2019, 8 of 10 (23 to 32) last placed teams are from Asia and Africa.

    The only wins of Asia in 2014 were wins over African teams

    Case closed.

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    • Originally posted by zairex View Post
      I am stating facts. Why rather than correct the fake news you want us to follow your narratives. Thus truth hurts. Beside no more challenge for teams for 17 to 32. Unless your Iran or China or Africa. Do you play the same if your eliminated already.
      So where is your proof that they don't play the same when eliminated?

      What facts are you talking about?

      Truth hurts? Where? The only truth that hurts is that for the last 10 years, all Asian teams accumulated 0 wins against Europeans.

      You can do mental gymnastics all you want but facts will always prevail.
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      • To give you an idea of how lopsided and convincing truth it is.

        Since 2010 , three World cups (2010 to 2019)
        Record head to head between Europe and Asia is something like this. EUROPE - 40 WINS , ASIA - 0
        Last edited by DAdmiral; 01-23-2023, 05:55 AM.

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        • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
          So where is your proof that they don't play the same when eliminated?

          What facts are you talking about?

          Truth hurts? Where? The only truth that hurts is that for the last 10 years, all Asian teams accumulated 0 wins against Europeans.

          You can do mental gymnastics all you want but facts will always prevail.
          Did Turkeys top players in US games played in NZ games? Answer that? Did they have the same rotarion

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          • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
            To give you an idea of how lopsided and convincing truth it is.

            Since 2010 , three World cups (2010 to 2019)
            Record head to head between Europe and Asia is something like this. EUROPE - 40 WINS , ASIA - 0
            Moving the goal post again. You will find any stats even fake news to fit the narrative. The question was between Asian teams Japan, Korea and Philippines. Then inserted NZ and Crotia are non Asian teams. Next the whole Europe. What next just to fit your narrative, Aliens. Its useless to even discuss with you when you go to the moon with you statement and fake news on some.

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            • For more context aside from.NZ two wins vs European teams in 2019.

              In 2014 Nz beat Euro teams Finland and Ukraine

              In 2010 NZ beat France and Canada ( yes I know they're not European)

              So 6 quality wins vs European level teams by NZ since 2010 in world cup vs all of Asia , zero wins vs European teams.

              Sorry to rub point in...

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              • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                Did Turkeys top players in US games played in NZ games? Answer that? Did they have the same rotarion
                Turkey did not field Ilyasova and Korkmaz but Osman and Wilbekin were still there. Ilyasova and Korkmaz were DNP due to injuries.

                The link is provided below:

                Turkey, aiming for Olympic qualifiers, will wrap up China journey against New Zealand - Anadolu Ajansı


                Still, Turkey fielded 9 but New Zealand fielded only 10 players.

                Regardless, the fact remains that New Zealand beat Turkey and it was not New Zealand's fault that Turkey did not play Korkmaz and Ilyasova.

                Another thing, do you even think that Iran or any other Asian teams can beat a nine-man Turkey team?

                The point here is that New Zealand beat Turkey fair and square. Asian teams can just dream off of beating a team like Turkey.
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                • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                  For more context aside from.NZ two wins vs European teams in 2019.

                  In 2014 Nz beat Euro teams Finland and Ukraine

                  In 2010 NZ beat France and Canada ( yes I know they're not European)

                  So 6 quality wins vs European level teams by NZ since 2010 in world cup vs all of Asia , zero wins vs European teams.

                  Sorry to rub point in...
                  Another fake news. Lebanon did beat a team WC 2010. Again fact check

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                  • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                    Turkey did not field Ilyasova and Korkmaz but Osman and Wilbekin were still there. Ilyasova and Korkmaz were DNP due to injuries.

                    The link is provided below:

                    Turkey, aiming for Olympic qualifiers, will wrap up China journey against New Zealand - Anadolu Ajansı


                    Still, Turkey fielded 9 but New Zealand fielded only 10 players.

                    Regardless, the fact remains that New Zealand beat Turkey and it was not New Zealand's fault that Turkey did not play Korkmaz and Ilyasova.

                    Another thing, do you even think that Iran or any other Asian teams can beat a nine-man Turkey team?

                    The point here is that New Zealand beat Turkey fair and square. Asian teams can just dream off of beating a team like Turkey.
                    Beat them in non bearing game, not even complete lineup and only by 1pt. What value is that? None? More impressive is Korea beating NZ 3 times and two game without NP

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                    • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                      Another fake news. Lebanon did beat a team WC 2010. Again fact check
                      Beat a european team

                      Lebanon's lone win is against Canada in 2010

                      Iran beat an african team
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                      • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
                        Beat a european team

                        Lebanon's lone win is against Canada in 2010

                        Iran beat an african team
                        Yet you include Canada lossing to NZ in your statement then when its Lebanon not ok. Why limit it to just Euro o because it doesn't fit your narative. I see now.

                        Against full of lies and fake news to fit your narative. And not saying that Turkey was not full strength to deceived people. Thats how you like to say it right.

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                        • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                          Another fake news. Lebanon did beat a team WC 2010. Again fact check
                          A European team? Besides does it change the obvious difference in zones ( and I clearly mentioned Canada is not European , what lies are you talking about) oh BTW do want me.to count NZ wins vs Amercas teams to increase the difference in gap?

                          BTW NZ beat Italy full 2019 roster a week before the world cup.

                          The things you're citing materially does NOT change the the.gap between Asia va Europe , Oceania and Americas zone teams in World cup competition since 2010..
                          Ok not a total zero shut out
                          But something like 100 wins for those 3 zones vs Asia , and like no more than 1 win (need to check) that litterally 99 % for 3 zones vs Asia . Are you happy with that , how does that change the disparity
                          Last edited by DAdmiral; 01-23-2023, 08:19 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                            A European team? Besides does it change the obvious difference in zones ( and I clearly mentioned Canada is not European , what lies are you talking about)

                            BTW NZ beat Italy full 2019 roster a week before the world cup.

                            The things you're citing materially does NOT change the the.gap between Asia va Europe , Oceania and Americas zone teams in World cup competition since 2010.
                            What your saying wasn't the point of the conversation in the first place. The point was development of Asian teams. But you love to put NZ even it wasn't mention.

                            A friendly now is as important as actual game. What next winning in barangay is the same as UAAP. China and Lebanon beat Euro teams. Why not included because they happen earlier than 2010. See fit your narative.

                            You love to say Gilas vs Senegal was a non bearing game thats why it doesn't matter and now your saying this. Can't even stick to an argument points.

                            PS it wasnt non bearing for Senagal.

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                            • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                              Beat them in non bearing game, not even complete lineup and only by 1pt. What value is that? None? More impressive is Korea beating NZ 3 times and two game without NP
                              You only play with what is in your hands.

                              Translated to tagalog: huwag kang maghanap ng wala.

                              No excuses.

                              That's the same thing I always say to sir Dave whenever he says that Tall Blacks will only send their youth team.

                              - not your opponents' fault if you are shorthanded and you send an underpowered team.
                              Last edited by ja.he; 01-23-2023, 09:31 AM.
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                              • Point of conversation has always been about the gap of asia competitivnes compared to other zones aside from. AFRICA (WHICH Is also bad ) in World cup

                                Gap is this lopsided to stress point .WC since 2010
                                Americas, Euro and Oceania 100 wins vs ASIAN teams , Asia vs the 3 zones , 1 win ! . Is this not convincing enough to verify point of disparity!

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