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  • I believe this wasn't posted here even though we already know RJ is going to Ulsan Mobis.



    Originally posted by yogaflame View Post
    I use to be a fan of Quinito Henson. But now, he is clearly oput of touch with modern day globalize basketball. He is not a credible analyst anymore even in his analytics and style, it is so old fashioned.
    Napako sa PBA ang analysis niya.

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    • Originally posted by jasper222 View Post
      I believe this wasn't posted here even though we already know RJ is going to Ulsan Mobis.





      Napako sa PBA ang analysis niya.
      I used to be proud of him when he was chosen as one of the official broadcasters for FIBA Asia 2015, and he was okay when he did commentate on the games (he only commentated on games that don't involve Gilas).

      What happened to him?
      Originally posted by gideon
      Not sure why all on here got salty when the Serbian coach said Gilas lacked any real quality. I mean isn't that glaringly obvious.

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      • Originally posted by judasmartel View Post
        I used to be proud of him when he was chosen as one of the official broadcasters for FIBA Asia 2015, and he was okay when he did commentate on the games (he only commentated on games that don't involve Gilas).

        What happened to him?
        He's out of touch like what yogaflame posted. but even before that, back in late 1990's and early 2000s, when NBA games were readily available on local media, we got exposed to the likes of Mike Fratello, Hubie Brown and Doug Collins, who dont recite useless trivia and see the play even BEFORE they happen, unlike Captain Obvious Henson. Sadly while we were treated to those bright analysts in the NBA , we are stuck with this so-called analyst in the PBA.

        I do remember Chot Reyes as guest analyst from way back. He was like Doug Collins and anticipated plays even before they happen. I wish he just stick with being a TV analyst though.

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        • Originally posted by NOiNU View Post
          In hindsight, looks like EWP got cheap on Kai, as far as agency is concerned. Remember, Bell wasn’t the first agency linked with Kai when he was just starting his US journey. Maybe the agency wanted a higher paycut. EWP practically (pun intended) SETTLED for Bell.

          This is a humbling experience for both Kai and his handlers. Might be a blessing in disguise, to temper expectations and build from the ground up.

          You can't blame EWP,since they already paying in advanced for Kai and family.

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          • Originally posted by ARMIR View Post
            You can't blame EWP,since they already paying in advanced for Kai and family.
            I think they share part of the blame. EWP likely marketed themselves to the Sotto family as people who will develop Kai as a basketball player but ended up treating him like an artista or commercial model and that the Sotto family got trapped

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            • Originally posted by Cocoy Martin
              LOL in reality Bell actually salvaged Kai's career after EWP yanked him out of Ignite, Bell's relationship with then 36ers GM Jeff Van Gronginen was instrumental in getting Kai to Adelaide (which now begs the question ... with Bell and Gronginen gone will Adelaide still continue with their investment in Kai?) basically giving Kai a second chance.

              The only issue I had with Bell is that he patronized Kai's fanbase and the Manila based Filipino media with all sorts of "misinformation" and "fake news" like they're still deciding if they will declare, if they will withdraw, that a team committed to pick Kai, etc ... (ever wonder why Bell never talked to US based Homer Sayson? its because Homer knows the NBA rules on draft eligibility and also gets insider info from his NBA contacts), Bell could still have done his job as an agent by being honest and sincere - he could've have simply said that "Since Kai is automatically eligible to be drafted and he can't withdraw we will prepare him to the best of our abilities so that he will in turn have a good workout with NBA teams and then we'll take it from there ... "

              Then again I wouldn't be surprised if someone from EWP instructed Bell to sensationalize Kai to feed the egos and excite his Pinoy fanbase - I sincerely doubt that Bell "mispoke" when he said that they're not interested in SL, 2 way contracts, 10 days etc. and that they will play for Gilas, Bell just became collateral damage.

              Given how he is painted as the "villain", I won't be surprised if Bell files a lawsuit vs EWP and Kai considering how he got Kai this close to making the NBA.
              Didnt they know that it was the next best thing after nba (or even the best thing at that moment since he will be given burn, in nba he will be a token player)... thats why I wasnt fully happy on the change agents thing again may be he get the nba spot, burning another bridge?.. The thing you want to avoid..

              Among Bell's client, its kai na who is the most promising so his priority(one of his) really is kai..unlike..
              Last edited by reamily; 07-15-2022, 01:16 AM.
              To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
              1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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              • Originally posted by reamily View Post
                Didnt they know that it was the next best thing after nba (or even the best thing at that moment since he will be given burn, in nba he will be a token player)... thats why I wasnt fully happy on the change agents thing again may be he get the nba spot, burning another bridge?.. thing you want to avoid..

                Among Bell's client, its kai na who is the most promising so his priority(one of his) really is kai..unlike..
                if this is legit, Bell doesnt have any client who attracts big paydays -> https://basketball.realgm.com/info/a...t/Joel-Bell/33

                Wasserman -> https://www.teamwass.com/mensbasketball
                i dont even want to look at official list. if Kai's parent\handlers want money, then Wasserman could probably be in a better position to get endorsements.
                WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES

                P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
                SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAAN

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                • Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post
                  if this is legit, Bell doesnt have any client who attracts big paydays -> https://basketball.realgm.com/info/a...t/Joel-Bell/33

                  Wasserman -> https://www.teamwass.com/mensbasketball
                  i dont even want to look at official list. if Kai's parent\handlers want money, then Wasserman could probably be in a better position to get endorsements.
                  Wasserman got me at White Mamba

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                  • Originally posted by Dotch View Post
                    Wasserman got me at White Mamba

                    lol we will see the tallest guy in the one sports panel hahaha
                    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                    1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                    • Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post
                      if this is legit, Bell doesnt have any client who attracts big paydays -> https://basketball.realgm.com/info/a...t/Joel-Bell/33

                      Wasserman -> https://www.teamwass.com/mensbasketball
                      i dont even want to look at official list. if Kai's parent\handlers want money, then Wasserman could probably be in a better position to get endorsements.
                      Sabagay Bell isnt really the one should be demanding here and the "clout".. jackpot sana siya if kai was able to tap his potential..
                      In Wasserman, baka masingit niyo tong si Kai sa Santa Cruz or since you keen on tarding westbrook why hire my guy kai as your tacko fall
                      To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                      1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                      • Originally posted by Cocoy Martin
                        You mean international endorsement deals? I doubt it if that's a priority right now over playing pro ball. Not to sound negative but I don't think any international brand has Kai on their endorser shortlist, Filipino brands yes but Kai doesn't need a Wasserman to get endorsement deals from SMART, Chooks, etc
                        he is playing in Australia, wont be hard to imagine he plays for Japan\South Korea\Taiwan. i dont see why the agency cant atleast explore possible endorsement. also, if Wasserman has clients endorsing Nike\Adidas etc why cant they negotiate to get Kai to endorse in Asia? why cant they negotiate for Kai to be endorser in Philippines instead of Kiefer? wasnt there news that Scottie Thomson has a signature shoe? i dont see why they cant angle for that either.
                        and yes, you are correct, for local deals he doesnt need Wasserman but, if he gets a local agent, can that agent handle his affair in current Au or any other he can play for? im sure Wasserman can represent him in the Philippines on top of whatever they can do in the international market.
                        Kai can have Wasserman for everything else not Philippines related and another agency for Philippine related matters. but thats 2 agency getting paid by Kai.
                        WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES

                        P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
                        SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAAN

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                        • Originally posted by Cocoy Martin
                          You mean international endorsement deals? I doubt it if that's a priority right now over playing pro ball. Not to sound negative but I don't think any international brand has Kai on their endorser shortlist, Filipino brands yes but Kai doesn't need a Wasserman to get endorsement deals from SMART, Chooks, etc
                          but how come there is no pinoy company endorsement this year after his supposed "good nbl play" with him expecting to enter the nba draft? or the companies were waiting for the draft result before signing any endorsements?

                          chooks i think is content with the paras family than having kai back as endorser

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                          • Originally posted by Cocoy Martin
                            Economies of scale, Nike's global brand ambassadors alone will sell more in Asia than an Asian player, why will Nike absorb an additional cost if the sales that will come in won't be that significant? Rule of thumb in endorsement and advertising spending BTW is 1%-2% of existing or forecasted business. So if Nike were to pay Kai USD1M the expected return is at least USD100M.

                            AFAIK Kiefer's deal is for the Phils only and there's no ATL involved, he just needs to wear Nike apparel during games.
                            But that's nothing new. Patrimonio had a Kaypee deal (shows my age). Mike Cortez had an And1 deal. Romeo had a signature shoe with PEAK. Even Bolick is sponsored by UA.

                            It might be too soon for Kai to be thinking about a brand or even sponsorships other than the ones active... but wth, right? The Kaiju thing makes Big Baller Brand look premium.

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                            • Originally posted by paolylo View Post
                              But that's nothing new. Patrimonio had a Kaypee deal (shows my age). Mike Cortez had an And1 deal. Romeo had a signature shoe with PEAK. Even Bolick is sponsored by UA.

                              It might be too soon for Kai to be thinking about a brand or even sponsorships other than the ones active... but wth, right? The Kaiju thing makes Big Baller Brand look premium.
                              Kai needs to show something first. All the dunks in the world are worth nothing if he cant earn regular minutes. Come on asking Blatche level money he is not even Douthit level yet. He needs games that will feature him. The Asia cup should have been the best stage.

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                              • Looks like Kai has a new trainer as well. Keep grinding bro

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