Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

[greenarcher]

My guess is Quinito is thinking less about the PBA and more about La Salle here.

Correct. PBA and UAAP deserves to be raided for allowing players to play until they are 25.

[DAdmiral]

Baseless assumption of yours or from the 30 NBA teams?

No assumption at all, the 30 teams have spoken verified by none of the 30 teams offered him an invite .
No one knows for sure the reason for rejection, but most likely cause they didn't want to offer a spot to a player who's agent already declared he was committed to play elsewhere (Asia cup) and looked difficult to work with (citing they're not interested in a two way contract etc ).
Who knows for sure if he would have gotten an invite if his agent was easier to work with and didn't misspoke. (I think he would actually been invited if his camp was desperate to just give it a shot with no conditions)

After all that has happened leading to draft , it verifies the truth, Kai was really a long shot draft prospect (not serious), and how way of many here are .
Recently Kai realesed a video of him doing lateral and change of direction drills in a football field , anyone with an eye , would spot why he wasn't drafted just looking at it (it's verification)

[DAdmiral]

A few facts.
1..Kai is at best a fringe player competing with many to tryout for a team
2 fringe undrafted players really are in no position to demand ,

3 the SL has standard set pay , SL deals are not negotiable. It's take it or leave it.

4. It follows that each player representative is in communication with teams that they're trying to get a deal with. Obviously the teams know the sentiment and conditions communicated by agents for their clients . Like no team will invite Cooks if he already communicated he wants a guaranteed deal not a try out, via summer league.

A fringe player who's agent is demanding like Kai does not fit the profile you give a SL invite to, of course don't count players who were drafted or have deals secured of course they are automatically entered into the SL

Essentially SL for those who don't have a contract yet is like a walk in tryout for school teams (obviously they at least should be invited), like school tryout walk ins, they don't have a scholarship offer deal secured yet. . It's tryout at your own risk..
It seems Kai's camp wasn't wiling to fight it out as a simple walk in, but had conditions for a secured deal in place.

[mapuakid]

Homegrown player should take ncaa route so he/she will have time to choose a good agent.

Kai’s path is messed up coz of the distraction (agent/handlers)

[The_Big_Cat]

The NBA Las Vegas Summer League is about to start in a few hours. And none of the 30 teams have Kai in their roster

https://twitter.com/homersayson/status/1544995368731299840?s=21&t=aixjC5AzF8E_QcvSbUhUSw

[DAdmiral]

^^
Actually had this conversation with Kevin Braswell, (all time leader in assist in Georgetown and a Euro league and NBL player)

He told me how critical it is to have a reputable good agent to get an opportunity in the NBA, , understand this , especially if the agents other clients are stars in the NBA, let's not fool ourselves if Giannis wasn't a star , no way will his brothers get an opportunity. It's similar with agents who represent multiple clients with stars.. just like any business, if an agent has done a team a favor (e.g convinced a star to move to a team) an agent can ask a favor and say for my other player (a fringe player) can you give him.an opportunity to play in summer league and join preseason and training camp . And if you like him, no promises, sign him..
Thats a huge opportunity, and it was arranged by the agent, because of who he is .. as you can see it matters a lot just like any business.

[live_evil]

so essentially Kai's agent and EWP are sleazy salespeople with a misplaced sense of stature. Poor Kai. Perhaps we should tell all prospects not to deal with EWP.

[CoJ]

so essentially Kai's agent and EWP are sleazy salespeople with a misplaced sense of stature. Poor Kai. Perhaps we should tell all prospects not to deal with EWP.

in short, they tried to budol/ hustle Kai's way into the NBA, too bad no one bought it

[thatweirdguy]

Why did they changed agent again? I remember people were hyped when it was revealed that Goodwin was his agent

[bluenote49]

https://www.rappler.com/sports/64547...-stand-fiasco/

LOL the warning signs were there ...

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/10/27/2518228/michael-beasley-lawsuit-agent-joel-bell-benefits

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/bell-beasley-documents.html

This is worst!

Broadly speaking, the suit "contends that Bell’s relationship with Malone and payments to Beasley’s mother were 'intended, ultimately, improperly to induce Beasley into executing a player agent agreement without competition from other agents.'

In another note some function from the forum is missing for my browser, any idea why is that? I'm using Brave Browser.

[Dotch]

https://www.philstar.com/sports/2022...s-under-attack

Quinito with the a "very good" argument here ahahahahah

Blinded by money is his reasoning. LOL. Following Henson's blanket statement KG, Lebron and Kobe were also blinded by money when they didnt pursue college and went straight to the pros. I mean the real KG ( Garnett ), Lebron ( James ) and Kobe ( Bryant ) not the pinoy ones.

Also, Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson also didn't finish their 4 years, and decided to enter the draft. So they must be greedy too

[Dotch]

obviously QH, PBA and SBP are too foreign about the idea of player’s playing abroad..

studies can finish later in life.. lots of athletes are doing this..

You can even earn and get your degree WHILE working. This is not uncommon nowadays. QH is just a boomer, and trying to put that "Stay in School" narrative.

[ARMIR]

pretty shitty plan. they went back with their style of kai doing workouts instead of doing competitive games. good lord.

Its so sad watching him do the same agility training,test for NFL big men,I'm betting that an NFL big man can outrun him in 40 yards,beat him in the 5-10-5 shuttle,3 cone drill,this is why young athletes in US HS,play in 2 or 3 different sports,all year round,different type of speed,agility and strength training.Kai's movement at his age looks like an old man moving.

[paulrenzo]

FEU and Ateneo were fine with their players leaving early, though.

As for the other schools, I dunno yet.

Also, no one complained when college players decided to forego their remaining years of eligibility to join the PBA draft.

Also, isn't this good news for people complaining about the limited slots in varsity teams (although it was more for these people due to FSA's)? Now that players are leaving earlier to pursue careers abroad, slots open up for new players to come in.

[paulrenzo]

and of course PBA/SBP will be pissed on will navarro like how they’re pissed on jordan heading..

Hot take: based on how he played under Coach Chot, he will not thrive in the PBA anyway. It's actually best that he play for a team that both sees more value in him, and is a fit for how he plays the game (i.e. none of the PBA teams)