Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

[CoJ]

Ahh, no, that wasn't my original point. I said, there's a reason why they're there, and a certain person isn't. Why do they receive a big fat monthly paycheck from their work even if, even if you say they're not doing a good job?

Oh my gosh, could it be that you never thought you're wrong in the first place? Shocking, and it's cute that you never considered that

Oh, and this applies to publications, scouts, and writers. You can criticize all you want, but that doesn't make any of your points valid at all

reminds me of comments made by political analysts who have published works on peer reviewed journals vs random posters/bloggers online. One cam has the credentials while the other doesn't have a structured or a logical argument.

[CoJ]

He signed for the money and the lifestyle being in Chiba. Good for him

is Chiba a party town? oh boy

[jasper222]

Exactly, he wasn't a star at any point, yet, he got a fat paycheck. I mean, I don't know dude, but this kinda did trip you up

Cleveland was already willing to sign him for $80 million. Tristan got $82 million. If that makes Rich Paul good at his job I guess, you do you, I just think those that secured the Mozgov contract are good agents, not Rich Paul. It's not hard to have leverage in negotiations when the best player in the world backs you up. The star analogy obviously doesn't apply to Tristan.

Ughh, no, I didn't, and no, it's your point that's weak . And sure, let's make a comedian's (Nigel and Auntie Hersha make a great pair btw) "criticism" for laughs and giggles hold water in this regard.

The thing is, we don't know what's going on behind Rich Paul and the inner workings of an NBA Agent enough to comment about it, but obviously, there are people who think they know better, so kudos to you. Do we know Chot and Josh are incompetent as hell based on their recent performances? Hell yes.

Rudimentary knowledge? Hmmm, all right then, here's knowledge for ya: https://hoopshype.com/reps/rich-paul/

You say for laughs and giggles, but how many of us agreed with Uncle Roger that Jamie Oliver's way of cooking egg fried rice was wrong? Are we not supposed to agree with him because he's a comedian, not a chef? That's why your point was weak.

We know some, thanks to NBA 2k (which is a basketball simulator video game that researched a draftee's life to fully immerse the player into how the draft works) and numerous reports, like the Earl Watson one I posted.

The Hoopshype page has been open on my tab ever since this discussion started. That roster means nothing to me, easy to build a roster like that when you have connections. After all, the Lebron James endorsement is one of the greatest there is in terms of basketball. When LBJ says you're good, you're gonna get attention.

[dubidub]

The only agent Homer Sayson has a connection with historically is Aaron Goodwin, knowing his past with Kai I'd take this tweet with a grain of salt

sayson "reporting" something that is very predictable, and when it comes true, he will say i'm right yada yada lol

[jasper222]

agents are good contract negotiators and good talker. all those clauses involved and other stuffs involved that will make both parties happy.. how to sell your clients to teams that wanted him. what is it for the client, talk to your client what do you want this and that and the agent will think what he’ll gonna say to the gm/owner of suitor team and go from there..

Yes I know, but thanks anyway.

Ahh, no, that wasn't my original point. I said, there's a reason why they're there, and a certain person isn't. Why do they receive a big fat monthly paycheck from their work even if, even if you say they're not doing a good job?

Oh my gosh, could it be that you never thought you're wrong in the first place? Shocking, and it's cute that you never considered that

Oh, and this applies to publications, scouts, and writers. You can criticize all you want, but that doesn't make any of your points valid at all

LMAO that's cute, you think EVERYTHING that comes out of writers and scouts writeups are CORRECT? You also think Harold Yu is better than Kai?

HAHAHAHAHA this is absolutely hilarious

I guess Choke and Joke are infallible because they're getting big fat paychecks from their jobs? That I should believe Homer Sayson even when he got his Ginebra prediction absolutely wrong because he gets paid to write about basketball while I don't?

I've always admitted to being wrong in IBN whenever I'm proven wrong, the problem is that you don't think the people in their jobs with fat paychecks can ever be wrong.

Why do you think owners fire coaches when owners know nothing about coaching?

Absolutely hilarious, the way you're arguing, you know my points struck deep inside you. That just because people are in the positions they're in, doesn't mean they're doing as good a job. Like Chandler Parsons getting a king's ransom just to sit on the bench.

reminds me of comments made by political analysts who have published works on peer reviewed journals vs random posters/bloggers online. One cam has the credentials while the other doesn't have a structured or a logical argument.

So random posters/bloggers online cannot have good points and those who have jobs are always right. Hmm I guess I should believe Steven A Smith and Skip Bayless now.

[dubidub]

What I'm actually curious about is assuming he doesn't get drafted,
How soon does he take an offer ?
Will he accept a Summer league invite without a guaranteed contract after ?
Or does he wait for a contract, even if 2 way contract?

The predictions and questions don't end after the draft

if kai doesn't go drafted, maybe he also has promise to be picked up by a team via the free agency? hasn't this happened in the past?

[jasper222]

sayson "reporting" something that is very predictable, and when it comes true, he will say i'm right yada yada lol

Didn't you know? Homer Sayson is getting paid the fat pesos by Spin dot ph, that means his information is 100% reliable and he can see in the future!

[thatweirdguy]

That just because someone is hired doesn't mean they are doing a good job. I just raised up Rich Paul because that agent utterly failed Eric Bledsoe's desire of a contract extension with the Suns because he tried to hustle Sarver, which also resulted in Earl Watson being fired as Suns HC. Naging domino effect pa lmao, since Watson's agent was also, you guessed it, Rich Paul.



I'm not smart but I'm not dumb either. Sorry, I never thought this at all.

I remember Lebron campaigning for Bledsoe's extension. Said something like "break bread". To be fair Suns did give him what he wanted and even made it his team. Traded away the better PGs and kept the worst one yet how did he repaid them? This is why you never let players/agents run your team.

[ja.he]

He signed for the money and the lifestyle being in Chiba. Good for him

is Chiba a party town? oh boy

he is turning into Chandler Parsons.

[dubidub]

Didn't you know? Homer Sayson is getting paid the fat pesos by Spin dot ph, that means his information is 100% reliable and he can see in the future!

im also astonished how homer sayson knows an agent and a scout who knows what all the 30 NBA gms will be doing tomorrow.

[Silent Killer]

Yes I know, but thanks anyway.



LMAO that's cute, you think EVERYTHING that comes out of writers and scouts writeups are CORRECT? You also think Harold Yu is better than Kai?

HAHAHAHAHA this is absolutely hilarious

I guess Choke and Joke are infallible because they're getting big fat paychecks from their jobs? That I should believe Homer Sayson even when he got his Ginebra prediction absolutely wrong because he gets paid to write about basketball while I don't?

I've always admitted to being wrong in IBN whenever I'm proven wrong, the problem is that you don't think the people in their jobs with fat paychecks can ever be wrong.

Why do you think owners fire coaches when owners know nothing about coaching?

Absolutely hilarious, the way you're arguing, you know my points struck deep inside you. That just because people are in the positions they're in, doesn't mean they're doing as good a job. Like Chandler Parsons getting a king's ransom just to sit on the bench.



So random posters/bloggers online cannot have good points and those who have jobs are always right. Hmm I guess I should believe Steven A Smith and Skip Bayless now.

because that part you only know the basic ones and not in depth of it..

there’s a reason team scouts and well renowned are good what they’re doing.. not all the time they’re right but for sure they’re good what they’re doing..

[kaiziken_pinas]

Yes I know, but thanks anyway.



LMAO that's cute, you think EVERYTHING that comes out of writers and scouts writeups are CORRECT? You also think Harold Yu is better than Kai?

HAHAHAHAHA this is absolutely hilarious

I guess Choke and Joke are infallible because they're getting big fat paychecks from their jobs? That I should believe Homer Sayson even when he got his Ginebra prediction absolutely wrong because he gets paid to write about basketball while I don't?

I've always admitted to being wrong in IBN whenever I'm proven wrong, the problem is that you don't think the people in their jobs with fat paychecks can ever be wrong.

Why do you think owners fire coaches when owners know nothing about coaching?

Absolutely hilarious, the way you're arguing, you know my points struck deep inside you. That just because people are in the positions they're in, doesn't mean they're doing as good a job. Like Chandler Parsons getting a king's ransom just to sit on the bench.

LMAO, nope, you’re absolutely putting words on my mouth now which is both cute and pretty hilarious because you’ve obviously got no way out in this argument unless you do so

All I’m saying is they’ve got more authority than you - or any of us - do because they’re there, receiving a paycheck and doing their jobs. And of course, this doesn’t apply to EVERY case because it’s idiotic to think so. But yeah, only one of us thinks that way (it’s me by the way) based on your points

I didn’t know your points struck deep inside me, but yeah, you obviously know more about me than, let’s say, Rich Paul’s knowledge of Lebron’s contract. This is a perfect case of the Dunning-Kruger effect unfolding right here

[Silent Killer]

calling givony et al scouts as bad scouts because kai isn’t in top 58 in major sites mock drafts

[kaiziken_pinas]

This is only what I learned in NBA 2k, I will not pretend to know a lot of agents in the NBA, but what I know is that agents are there to represent their client, to read the fine print, and secure a good salary for their client, since most NBA players especially those drafted usually didn't finish college. They're there to make sure their client is rewarded for their potential and/or body of work.

So your knowledge of an NBA agent’s work stems from a video game? Maybe we should all get surgery from someone who played Surgeon Simulator or hire someone who played CoD.

Rudimentary knowledge, everyone.

[Tuck]

is Chiba a party town? oh boy

Like most players playing in japan they were home sick and alone. Living in a more major city theres more activities and more than likely more friends visiting this was at least the consideration to some.

A lot of the b league guys are really sad there but the money is too good. $50k monthly is a lot. Its a culture thing Filipinos are too used to being with family