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  • Originally posted by IPC View Post
    PBA All-Stars: Perez, June Mar, Romeo, Japeth, Pringle/CStand, Scottie, LA, Pogoy, Troy/Erram, Kiefer, Lee, Abueva

    Can the guys overseas beat this lineup?
    Using FIBA rules and with Kouame, the Pinoy imports can beat PBA players. the versatility of Pinoy imports will surely come into play, especially at the wings and bigman positions.

    PBA:

    Bigs:

    Junemar
    Japeth
    CStan
    Erram

    Wings:

    Abueva
    Pogoy
    Perez
    Scottie

    Guards:

    Lee
    Kiefer
    Romeo
    LA

    Coach Tim Cone/Chot Reyes/Chito Victolero

    Pinoy imports:

    Bigs:

    Kai
    Kouame (reinforcement)
    CariƱo

    Forwards/wings:

    Baltazar
    Tamayo (reinforcement)
    Navarro
    Parks
    Dwight
    Thirdy

    Guards:

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    Juan
    SJ

    Coach Tab/Nenad/Goldwin
    Last edited by ja.he; 06-14-2022, 04:07 AM.
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    • Originally posted by IPC View Post
      The 11 players abroad can form a pretty good national team pool.

      Edit: 10, sorry I miscounted.
      The more Pinoy FIBA eligible players playing in overseas leagues, the better for Philippine basketball. No need to elaborate, everybody here understands where I'm coming from.

      I hope next year at least 5 more Pinoy players would decide to play in overseas leagues.
      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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      • Originally posted by IPC View Post
        PBA All-Stars: Perez, June Mar, Romeo, Japeth, Pringle/CStand, Scottie, LA, Pogoy, Troy/Erram, Kiefer, Lee, Abueva

        Can the guys overseas beat this lineup?
        My starting 5 - Kai, Baltazar, Dwight, Parks, and Belangel.

        Yes, even if you infuse the PBA team with ineligibles, as long as they're coached by a PBA coach, I think our guys from the foreign leagues can outdo the PBA guys if they're handled by either tab or nenad.

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        • Originally posted by IPC View Post
          PBA All-Stars: Perez, June Mar, Romeo, Japeth, Pringle/CStand, Scottie, LA, Pogoy, Troy/Erram, Kiefer, Lee, Abueva

          Can the guys overseas beat this lineup?
          If including non-SMC/MVP teams, I might replace LA with Bolick and Lee or Abueva with Wright.

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          • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
            Using FIBA rules and with Kouame, the Pinoy imports can beat PBA players. the versatility of Pinoy imports will surely come into play, especially at the wings and bigman positions.

            PBA:

            Bigs:

            Junemar
            Japeth
            CStan
            Erram

            Wings:

            Abueva
            Pogoy
            Perez
            Scottie

            Guards:

            Lee
            Kiefer
            Romeo
            LA

            Coach Tim Cone/Chot Reyes/Chito Victolero

            Pinoy imports:

            Bigs:

            Kai
            Kouame (reinforcement)
            CariƱo

            Forwards/wings:

            Baltazar
            Tamayo (reinforcement)
            Navarro
            Parks
            Dwight
            Thirdy

            Guards:

            Heading
            Juan
            SJ

            Coach Tab/Nenad/Goldwin
            I noticed that the coaching pool for the Filipino imports is mostly defensive. Tab and Nenad are known for their defense, and Goldwin has a mix of defensive coverages too, especially pressing and PnR blitzes?

            How would Lee, Perez, Scottie, and Terrence react to a blitz defense with Ange, Balti, Navarro, and maybe CariƱo being the trapper?

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            • Originally posted by IPC View Post
              I noticed that the coaching pool for the Filipino imports is mostly defensive. Tab and Nenad are known for their defense, and Goldwin has a mix of defensive coverages too, especially pressing and PnR blitzes?

              How would Lee, Perez, Scottie, and Terrence react to a blitz defense with Ange, Balti, Navarro, and maybe CariƱo being the trapper?
              the main issue with PBA guards when they play under FIBA rule is that they are turnover prone as they tend to dribble too much and pass at the last second. while they look good on court, they can become an easy target because of their predictability. so you have a pba guard with an all-star attitude because he's used to buzz by the inferior defense of players with short wingspans, and then you put him in a situation where international-sized players who are just as quick can suddenly harass/double team him, of course the outcome won't be good, imo.

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              • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                I noticed that the coaching pool for the Filipino imports is mostly defensive. Tab and Nenad are known for their defense, and Goldwin has a mix of defensive coverages too, especially pressing and PnR blitzes?

                How would Lee, Perez, Scottie, and Terrence react to a blitz defense with Ange, Balti, Navarro, and maybe CariƱo being the trapper?
                Also note that aside from Coach Chito, both Tim Cone and Chot are not known defensive coaches. Tim Cone will even let the three-point arc wide open.
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                • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                  Also note that aside from Coach Chito, both Tim Cone and Chot are not known defensive coaches. Tim Cone will even let the three-point arc wide open.
                  Just asking why its ok if Miami Heat does this strategy of letting teams hit 3pt than attack the basket. And still be called defensive team and Spo as defensive coach.

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                  • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                    Just asking why its ok if Miami Heat does this strategy of letting teams hit 3pt than attack the basket. And still be called defensive team and Spo as defensive coach.
                    actually, i don't consider it as a wise move, especially if you are against a good three-point shooting team like the Golden State Warriors.

                    do this against Korea, Australia, and New Zealand, Gilas is lucky if they lose by 20 points.
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                    • @Peezones, just a reminder if u still will deposit money as you mentioned if Kai remains in draft past the withdrawal deadline. Just PM me and will give u bank details..
                      I think that was with Kaiju...

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                      • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                        actually, i don't consider as a wise move, especially if you are against a good three-point team like the Golden State Warriors.

                        do this to Korea, Australia, and New Zealand, Gilas is lucky if they lose by 20 points.
                        I think Boston does this also with GS. Leaving Green, Wiggins or Payton open or wont close out hard as they are players with lower tham 30% 3pt shooting. Ithink this can be done as not all players of Korea or ANZ are 35% 3pt shooters

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                        • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                          @Peezones, just a reminder if u still will deposit money as you mentioned if Kai remains in draft past the withdrawal deadline. Just PM me and will give u bank details..
                          I think that was with Kaiju...
                          It is good that you post this message. I am also confused about how to go about it. That Kaiju hasn't been found for several weeks. I will still push through with it. You could take the bet if you want instead of Kaiju. I know your group knows that troll from Adelaide. You could PM your bank credentials and please clarify if you will be the one to take the bet. I don't want to deal with that troll. Also, I would prefer a PH bank account.
                          Last edited by PeeZones; 06-14-2022, 08:09 AM.

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                          • From the write up of Miguel Flores of NBA Philippines - "June 13 is the pivotal date for Kai. It’s the deadline for players to pull out of the NBA Draft and explore other options."

                            I don't know how reliable is Mr. Flores as a writer in NBA Philippines as per D Admiral told us Kai doesn't need to withdraw since he is automatically eligible.

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                            • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                              I think Boston does this also with GS. Leaving Green, Wiggins or Payton open or wont close out hard as they are players with lower tham 30% 3pt shooting. Ithink this can be done as not all players of Korea or ANZ are 35% 3pt shooters
                              even Tab did not let everyone from South Korea to shoot 3's because even Ricardo Ratliffe can hit one or two.
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                              • You would be naive to think Kai's agent Bell wasn't aware of the rules, and of course he knew Kai didn't declare officially via the early entry process .

                                C'mon let's say it as it is "straight talk ". Bell was blatantly lieing. Portraying a narrative that Kai decided to declare entry given interest from team's and followed by suggesting he has decided to not withdraw but stay in the draft, cause of the interest.
                                Contrary to the real situation which is there absolutely was no decision required to be made , Kai was automatically entered and could not withdraw..
                                This was one of the most blatant make belief stories made and the thing is the media and public actually believed it.

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