Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

[CoJ]

So expect Sotto to be an UDFA. His team like this scenario, isn’t it? So they can chose the team that will provide the right atmosphere for Kai.

same here, if not drafted I expect Kai to be invited to the summer league then eventually be signed to a 2 way contract, plus his management team, as you said, could pick the perfect team for Kai, in terms of fit and culture (team culture and the culture of the city)

[NOiNU]

There's nothing wrong with his post. Did he flamebaiting? Curse someone? Name calling? Post in tagalog? He didn't insult someone.. We're not overly sensitive here.. it's nice to read here but when people who don't like analyzed post people will act toxic and forget about forum rules?

Why TBC gets it and some don't? It's easy to comprehend and behave and get decent posts and reply..

Again you name call him again. Theirs a reason your post got deleted.

I pointed out his latest but someone deleted it. Can’t handle truth apparently. When you ask, “A hard concept for you guys to understand, right?”, isn’t that a blatant insult? You find nothing wrong with this, it’s understandable. But you gotta do a better job discerning. Not because something isn’t addressed to you and it is written by your boy, it gets a pass.

Why did you delete the u16 game links of math? Is it against the rule to post them? I get it you don’t wanna get us scouted, but you don’t do those things as a mod if it didn’t violate any forum rules. That’s clear bias and an abuse of power. I PM mo na lang na iwasan magpost ng ganun.

You can stick to your guns or you can listen to the criticisms (which are a lot from the get go). Either way is fine with me.

[Kris@]

“He said unimpeachable source.” Either there’s some truth to it or he’s just stirring the hornet’s nest. Either way, just wait for the draft day.

[NOiNU]

He did not specify which workouts. Are we supposed to conclude Homer means all of them? He also known to infuse his own opinion into his newsbites, and go radio silent whenever something he reported first on is confirmed to be wrong.

Homer was already wrong about Kai before during the draft combine stuff. Nang-iintriga lang. I remember all of us agreeing with DAdmiral on that issue.

Take this with a grain of salt. I'm willing to believe Kai's drafts either didn't go very well or didn't go excellently. But to leave stupid cryptic lines like "It did not go well." Lol, drama mo Snow Badua 2.0.

I would pay ringside to see Homer and Snow go at it. Lol I think Homer’s scared of Snow, though, judging from their spat recently. Nangagaw raw ng scoop si Homer. Ahaha

Trans: taking this with a grain of salt, given the rep of the messenger.

[dubidub]

I would pay ringside to see Homer and Snow go at it. Lol I think Homer’s scared of Snow, though, judging from their spat recently. Nangagaw raw ng scoop si Homer. Ahaha

Trans: taking this with a grain of salt, given the rep of the messenger.

always felt like homer has been riding snow's coattails haha sorry OT

Go Kai!

[Jupitersa]

If we let it pass it will gone worse. And you already saw the effects of it

If you've been here that way before you lurk and become a member, spidey acts like the way he acts.. swearing in tagalog, name calling, post in tagalog, accusing people, name it.. I could've had ban him from the get go but no.. i give him chance but he didnt change and acts the way he acts and provide toxicity from the get go..

I've been lurking on this forum since Gilas 1. And that's not what my point was. Of course Spidey deserved to get banned. But what happened prior to that is my problem.

A mod (Sikatrix on this instance) was having a spat as usual with Spidey. He one upped him by revealing to everybody he uses a VPN and insinuated he is the one behind the troll accounts. That is abuse of authority right there. I am not giving spidey a pass for his vulgarity but it is understandeable why he went balistic and "called the admins trash" and a quite few colorful words that was deserving of him getting kicked out.

Now, you guys may say is just indeed telling the truth that Spidey is using a VPN. HOWEVER, him revealing he uses a VPN casted doubt to everyone here whether he is the one behind the troll accounts and put ammunition on his 'enemies' here. Truth be told, you said it yourself we don't have a definite evidence and somone such as a Mod insinuating him as the one guilty certainly didn't help. The dude just tried to desperately defend himself(in his own vulgar way) before getting banned pretty much. That was my problem. You guys dropped the ball on that one. The "Kaiju 2nd account" one that lead to astigram getting banned is another story.



Now back to my whole point above about "limiting the policing unless it's absolute necessarry". This topic itself is extremely controversial and nit picking everyone by the letter of the rules does not help at all. I did not say stop enforcing the rules. Only when it's absolutely necessarry. Just don't shoot the goddamn gun every single time and treat this forums as "1984" where everyone needs to by the book. Let people discuss and argue. Only intervene when it is needed. The argument I see nothing wrong with the back and forth of analyzed and jasper in my own opinion. I did not see what NOiNU posted so I have no opinion on that.

I can clearly see bias when I see one and it is even more concerning if a mod dictates the conversation here. I see you guys get hyper critical to someone you are in odds with and shoot him down the moment even he takes a single step out of line while giving leeway to somebody else. Please don't favor one group for the other, or should I say a specific poster. That is why I am advising to tone down the deletion of post. Give him a warning on the edit if you have to but shadowbanning posts should not be your first option. Especially if it's nothing blatantly rule breaking. The loss of trust is already showing on this forum. Don't make it even worse by ignoring the signs.

[Silent Killer]

I pointed out his latest but someone deleted it. Can’t handle truth apparently. When you ask, “A hard concept for you guys to understand, right?”, isn’t that a blatant insult? You find nothing wrong with this, it’s understandable. But you gotta do a better job discerning. Not because something isn’t addressed to you and it is written by your boy, it gets a pass.

Why did you delete the u16 game links of math? Is it against the rule to post them? I get it you don’t wanna get us scouted, but you don’t do those things as a mod if it didn’t violate any forum rules. That’s clear bias and an abuse of power. I PM mo na lang na iwasan magpost ng ganun.

You can stick to your guns or you can listen to the criticisms (which are a lot from the get go). Either way is fine with me.

Free scouting.. and complains why teams figure out how we play? It happened here many times. You should've known about that..

Funny though people complained that no active mod to control things here but the same people complaining why this and why that when mods show up. some people don't like to be controlled

[dubidub]

I've been lurking on this forum since Gilas 1. And that's not what my point was. Of course Spidey deserved to get banned. But what happened prior to that is my problem.

A mod (Sikatrix on this instance) was having a spat as usual with Spidey. He one upped him by revealing to everybody he uses a VPN and insinuated he is the one behind the troll accounts. That is abuse of authority right there. I am not giving spidey a pass for his vulgarity but it is understandeable why he went balistic and "called the admins trash" and a quite few colorful words that was deserving of him getting kicked out.

Now, you guys may say is just indeed telling the truth that Spidey is using a VPN. HOWEVER, him revealing he uses a VPN casted doubt to everyone here whether he is the one behind the troll accounts and put ammunition on his 'enemies' here. Truth be told, you said it yourself we don't have a definite evidence and somone such as a Mod insinuating him as the one guilty certainly didn't help. The dude just tried to desperately defend himself(in his own vulgar way) before getting banned pretty much. That was my problem. You guys dropped the ball on that one. The "Kaiju 2nd account" one that lead to astigram getting banned is another story.



Now back to my whole point above about "limiting the policing unless it's absolute necessarry". This topic itself is extremely controversial and nit picking everyone by the letter of the rules does not help at all. I did not say stop enforcing the rules. Only when it's absolutely necessarry. Just don't shoot the goddamn gun every single time and treat this forums as "1984" where everyone needs to by the book. Let people discuss and argue. Only intervene when it is needed. The argument I see nothing wrong with the back and forth of analyzed and jasper in my own opinion. I did not see what NOiNU posted so I have no opinion on that.

I can clearly see bias when I see one and it is even more concerning if a mod dictates the conversation here. I see you guys get hyper critical to someone you are in odds with and shoot him down the moment even he takes a single step out of line while giving leeway to somebody else. Please don't favor one group for the other, or should I say a specific poster. That is why I am advising to tone down the deletion of post. Give him a warning on the edit if you have to but shadowbanning posts should not be your first option. Especially if it's nothing blatantly rule breaking. The loss of trust is already showing on this forum. Don't make it even worse by ignoring the signs.

honestly, i don't see how having a VPN is suspicious. in this day and age where cyberattacks are becoming common, everyone should probably be investing in VPNs anyways.

[NOiNU]

Free scouting.. and complains why teams figure out how we play? It happened here many times. You should've known about that..

Funny though people complained that no active mod to control things here but the same people complaining why this and why that when mods show up. some people don't like to be controlled

You realize you’re a moderator, right? Your intention is good but your means is not. If you wanna continue being biased, then suit yourself. Go ahead and make your own rules on the fly, while you’re at it.

Lol I never complained having no mods, so you’re barking up the wrong tree.

[Silent Killer]

You realize you’re a moderator, right? Your intention is good but your means is not. If you wanna continue being biased, then suit yourself. Go ahead and make your own rules on the fly, while you’re at it.

Lol I never complained having no mods, so you’re barking up the wrong tree.

Biased? Nope never.. but people applaud that we're doing a good job..

The same group who can't help themselves swear, name calling in their post and flame baiting.. they can have long post all they want but if they include those it will be deleted. It was clear as day in the forum rules and i mentioned this in my first few days as mod.. try to read thread about the rules if you have time

Not pertaining to you about complaining.. but other people here..

[jasper222]

“He said unimpeachable source.” Either there’s some truth to it or he’s just stirring the hornet’s nest. Either way, just wait for the draft day.

Maybe he's referring to Sam Smith.



If he's the "unimpeachable" source then Homer has never been on his site, since the ff paragraph is on Sam Smith's NBA page.

The contents of this page have not been reviewed or endorsed by the Chicago Bulls. All opinions expressed by Sam Smith are solely his own and do not reflect the opinions of the Chicago Bulls or their Basketball Operations staff, parent company, partners, or sponsors. His sources are not known to the Bulls and he has no special access to information beyond the access and privileges that go along with being an NBA accredited member of the media.

Unless Homer has a source that's privy to all those teams' FO and workouts, and I doubt Joel Bell and Ervin Sotto would tell him, then his chika should be taken lightly. These are several NBA teams we're talking about. Besides, it wasn't him who broke the news of the teams working him out, but a Youtuber.

[NOiNU]

@Jupitersa

I called analyzed Mang Marites, and some. Ahaha I figure since he can go on insulting everyone and not get the slightest warning, then I can return the favor. I don’t have a problem that post getting deleted, but rules should be applied to everyone no matter which side of fence they’re at.

[jasper222]

I pointed out his latest but someone deleted it. Can’t handle truth apparently. When you ask, “A hard concept for you guys to understand, right?”, isn’t that a blatant insult? You find nothing wrong with this, it’s understandable. But you gotta do a better job discerning. Not because something isn’t addressed to you and it is written by your boy, it gets a pass.

I can clearly see bias when I see one and it is even more concerning if a mod dictates the conversation here. I see you guys get hyper critical to someone you are in odds with and shoot him down the moment even he takes a single step out of line while giving leeway to somebody else. Please don't favor one group for the other, or should I say a specific poster. That is why I am advising to tone down the deletion of post. Give him a warning on the edit if you have to but shadowbanning posts should not be your first option. Especially if it's nothing blatantly rule breaking. The loss of trust is already showing on this forum. Don't make it even worse by ignoring the signs.

I've accepted the judgement lol. I can see the signs, it's not much effort for me to toe the line as long as I don't go over it. I just have to weather the storm just like I always have in my life...life will forever be unfair to guys like me after all...I have fully accepted that some people have all the privileges in the world while we have to line up for our salary at the ATM when it's payday...ganun talaga ang life...full of chocolates for the privileged and full of dried fish for everyone else...but thanks for the concern.

[Kris@]

Maybe he's referring to Sam Smith.



If he's the "unimpeachable" source then Homer has never been on his site, since the ff paragraph is on Sam Smith's NBA page.



Unless Homer has a source that's privy to all those teams' FO and workouts, and I doubt Joel Bell and Ervin Sotto would tell him, then his chika should be taken lightly. These are several NBA teams we're talking about. Besides, it wasn't him who broke the news of the teams working him out, but a Youtuber.

Are the media invited to a private workout (guess not)? Are insiders allowed to divulge information about private workouts (guess not again)?

[jasper222]

Are the media invited to a private workout (guess not)? Are insiders allowed to divulge information about private workouts (guess not again)?

That's what makes it hard to believe for me. Media guys aren't invited to private workouts afaik. Then there's the whole "unimpeachable" thing, so either he has a source for each NBA team Kai worked out for, someone in Kai's camp, or Adam Silver himself.

He didn't specify which workout, since he said workouts, so it gives off the impression that Kai failed either all or majority of his private workouts. Tapos may dramatic one-liner pa in the end, feeling Marvel superhero.