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  • Originally posted by Titan View Post
    This is different. This was written by Jeremy Woo. The other SI mock where Kai was included was that of Brett Siegel
    both writers actually collaborate , for each release there is a lead writer and support writer. but this is actually consistent with the spredsheet Brett had.

    anyway regardless , Kai in top 10 most reliable mocks (CBS, SI , ESPN, Yahoo, BR etc) is not on average in the top 70

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    • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
      Your argument that teams don't use mocks to base decisions isn't the point, ( of course they do not care or use mocks , that's silly) also data analytics does not look into the how or quality of assessments of those making invites for combines etc, it's independent of that. Like it does not factor if a team down 3 zero in a best of 7 series has lost each game by just 1 point . ( that's not the point at all)

      those facts 1 and 2 are mentioned are independent of the how or whatever other factors. and BTW it's not saying it's impossible, it's just saying that if one beats the odds he's an outliner. . nothing else

      I'm not actually arguing with anyone who wants to make a bold prediction beating the odds. you're totally entitled to that.
      now if you're arguing the odds are incorrect , that's not possible because they are events that already happened in history as fact.

      There is nothing obscure or meaningless in the fact that no one who has been drafted was not invited to both the combine or elite camp , it's a very meaningful indicator and statistical historical fact.
      May I asked if you know how data probabilities work or Game theory. Just want to see how did you compute for it. What to learn about it based on your understanding.

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      • Originally posted by zairex View Post
        May I asked if you know how data probabilities work or Game theory. Jist want to see how did you compute for it. What to learn about it based on your understanding.
        No, i just use machine and deep learning as part of my work,..
        U might find some info here as a background on the data science field.
        Using our leading AI and remote sensing technology to process vast amounts of data, empowering our clients to make better real-time decisions on the ground, every day.

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        • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
          No, i just use machine and deep learning as part of my work,..
          U might find some info here as a background on the data science field.
          https://www.adatos.com/about
          I know data science, you mention data probabilities so I though you know how this works in decision making.

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          • Originally posted by zairex View Post
            I know data science, you mention data probabilities so I though you know how this works in decision making.
            Not really I just advise .. but not something i want to discuss in this forum..

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            • Knicks Draft Q&A w/ Rafael Barlowe | Knicks Workout Daniels, Eason & More!0:00:00 Rafael Barlowe (@Barlowe500) Returns0:04:16 Early impressions of Rokas Joku...


              A New York Knicks Fan channel, on the last part, they talk about Kai Sotto w/ guest NBADraftjunkies founder Rafael Barlow.

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              • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                Not really I just advise .. but not something i want to discuss in this forum..
                Just how did you know using data probability what Kai percentage of being drafted. Previously, some of your stat are wrong or not based in facts. So wonder how do you know about data probabilities
                Last edited by zairex; 06-07-2022, 06:59 AM.

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                • As a tangent, will Belangel's decision to move to Korea affect Ateneo in the upcoming UAAP Season 85 (which is just less than 4 months away)? Coach Tab's system does not rely on a single star but this will be still an abrupt loss of talent

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                  • Originally posted by robert0326
                    That's why a big mistake for Chot not tapping Mikey Williams for SEAG... He should be the NP player than Tautuaa (He sucks) then tapped Erram to replace Montalbo... Mikey will save Chot's coaching stubbornness in SEAG but he believe that NP should always a big man... Now he suffers all the hate of Pinoy fans...
                    According to news reports Mikey has been a no-show inside the TNT camp since the end of the Governor’s Cup.

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                    • SJ deserved that KBL contract..the dude wil surely blossom in that league.

                      Off topic:
                      Congrats to our Floorball team for giving the Thai some competition in the recently concluded World Cup Qualifiers held at Singapore, the two team will are already qualified for the World Championship to be held in Switzerland this November.

                      see full championship match.


                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Iq1HebBhws

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                      • Originally posted by robert0326
                        What I know KBL has only ten teams, so don’t expect that KBL will take some Filipino players there…maybe atleast 2 or 3 more pinoy players there and that’s it because of limited teams at Korean league
                        it's fine. for as long as there is a filipino player being offered by overseas leagues, that's good.
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                        • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                          Just how did you know using data probability what Kai percentage of being drafted. Previously, some of your stat are wrong or not based in facts. So wonder how do you know about data probabilities
                          It's not exclusive to Kai. But anyone
                          1 It's historical fact that no one has been drafted since the elite camp was introduced and was not invited to both the camp and combine . How is that fact wrong if verified as true?, of course it does not translate that Kai will automatically not be drafted as there are always 1st or outliners .

                          As to consensus mocks, just simply do the math e.g. % drafted who are not in any of the top 10 mocks identified 3 weeks prior to draft date.
                          Whatever that % is when investigated throughly is what it is . And becomes historical facts .
                          Again it doesn't mean Kai will not be drafted, but is just historical precedence to use as an indicator. If Kai will be the exception for other factors then so be it. , that factor can then be used to include in future data sets .
                          Example invited to draft green room.. (that's is indeed a feature that can be added)
                          All historical data features can be added to improve granularity for more precise probability , increasing factors used. (basically the concept of big data)
                          Last edited by DAdmiral; 06-07-2022, 08:19 AM.

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                          • Kai allegedly sprained his ankle in one of his workouts and would be postponing his other remaining workouts. Philstar reported that he won't be backing out from the draft. I don't think he will continue his workout with other teams anymore. Why? I feel he has already secured a first round commitment from one of the teams. No use of continuing if that is the case. If indeed he doesn't back out from the draft that will be my confirmation. Another thing to wait for is Kai gets invited in the green room. What do you guys think?

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                            • Juan GDL excpected to sign with a KBL team: https://twitter.com/baekpd1983/statu...JvKkPLIuw&s=19

                              I'm interested to know who are the Filipino forwards expected to sign with the KBL.

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                              • There actually is no withdrawal process for automatically eligible players like Kai. The withdrawals are only for those who are officially entered in the early entrant list. Kai is not one of them.. but is listed as auto eligible.

                                If Kai is one of 20 players invited to Geen room he is assured to be drafted (99%)

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