Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

[Hendriksph75]

Finally decided to join this thread after years of lurking.
Cheers to all critics and supporters of Kai..
Regarding Brett's list he said its based on intel from agents,scouts and executives in the league so does it has more weight than the mock draft list from draft boards which is based on their own scouting report and analysis?

[The_Big_Cat]

Finally decided to join this thread after years of lurking.
Cheers to all critics and supporters of Kai..
Regarding Brett's list he said its based on intel from agents,scouts and executives in the league so does it has more weight than the mock draft list from draft boards which is based on their own scouting report and analysis?

Welcome to Interbasket.

[DAdmiral]

Finally decided to join this thread after years of lurking.
Cheers to all critics and supporters of Kai..
Regarding Brett's list he said its based on intel from agents,scouts and executives in the league so does it has more weight than the mock draft list from draft boards which is based on their own scouting report and analysis?

Well no one knows for sure, as they are individual writers assessment based on the their intel and scouting, that is why either a collated or consensus mock gives you a better indication of the overall projections. (no one mock writer get's everything right ) . now if you widen the range to hundred.. because it includes those who fall out say ranked 61 for a rating, that further provides greater accuracy especially if you collate all ratings and mocks.

One consensus mock even went to the length of putting an algorithm, that accounted for factors such as timing (how close to draft day) and the frequency and time being ranked in say top 10 . that obviously again provides greater accuracy
A good analogy of mocks is they are like electoral polls.. of course with a drfferent sample population surveyed.


lastly the combine invites for Elite camp and NBA combine of over 100 hundred players voted per team , is indeed a very very accurate indicator poll of what the executives are thinking. (and note it is annonymous , meaning they dont disclose which teams vote for who, note each team also has 100 votes each ..
here is thing to note about polls or votes.. they are autonomous from why person voted for a person ( it is not infuenced by statements or stats of players but purely on poll of who people will vote. that's indeed a very good measurement indicator

[The_Big_Cat]

I have posted numerous times that the major polls or mock drafts that are more credible are ESPN, USA Today, CBS Sports, Sports Illustrated. Congrats to Kai to finally make it in one of the major polls.

ESPN is widely considered the bible of all mock drafts because of its huge network of sportswriters and sports analysts.

[The_Big_Cat]

Of all of the California teams, only Sacramento is in the rebuild mode. Since there is a large Filipino community in Sacramento its a possibility the Kings could gamble and draft Sotto in the 2nd round (36th and 50th). But does Sacramento need a center in the draft?

I dont think the Clips, Lakers or GSW will gamble on a development young big man. They would want a player who could contribute right away.

so long as LBJ is with the Lakers, thats a no
Clips will push hard with Kawhi and PG13 healthy, and would probably trade the pick as a kicker to get other pieces. if they dont, it still possible they get a project that they can chuck in their gleague affiliate for a couple of years.
Dubs, is set already. aside from the core, Wiggins, poole, kuminga, and wiseman are either for future or for trade. getting a project i actually ok. no pressure to the project, and they can cut ties after 1 season. but after 1 season, it might be very difficult to get into the rotation unless there is a significant jump in progress for the project. obviously, sana si Kai, but they can gamble with any of their picks with virtually no impact to their core or even rotation players.
kings, we are more or less in the same page so thumbs up nlng

Bro C2Hamm, Sports Illustrated is with us in projecting Kai to go to Sacramento in the 2nd round. Hehe 😉

https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/draft/brett-siegels-2022-nba-mock-draft-1-0-post-combine-edition

[DAdmiral]

I think Ron and Kai will be drafted.

And Remy wouldnt. As much as I like him.

Just my personal projection and opinion though.

But good luck to all of them

So let me ask you as both Kai and Harper jr are not in consensus top 60 , would you also predict similar none top consensus Lee and Maker to be drafted ? And if so , which 4 players that are consistently in consensus top 58 to be drafted would you take out ?

The reason for my questioning, is your prediction of players really more a vote of patronization of fellow Filipinos or really an honest analytical assessment, cause it's easy to say a player will drafted, but to be objective you have to pick someone or players who currently are in the consensus list to be drafted to be taken out and explain logicialy why that player won't be drafted. Now that the difficult part

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nba-mock-draft-2022-consensus-order-post-lottery

https://hoopshype.com/lists/live-aggregate-nba-mock-draft/

so as an example Besson is consensus 52 , while Jackson Davis is 57 th consensus , how do you explain logicialy in terms of odds that Harper is more likely to be drafted than Besson and Kai is more likely to be drafted than Davis ? if you look it at this way , you take away the emotion and patronization of specific players you affiliate out of the equation when predicting. . As they say the worst way to predict or make decisions is when you're emotionally attached to a specific decision or side

[DAdmiral]

who actually are my draft choices that you're referring to ? players that are consistently in consensus locks in mock draft some even in lottery ? If so absolutely I agree with the consensus takes.. which is self explanatory i respect mainstream writers predictions on locks to be drafted supported with sound analysis.

[cireeex]

Bro C2Hamm, Sports Illustrated is with us in projecting Kai to go to Sacramento in the 2nd round. Hehe 😉

https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fas...ombine-edition

Interestingly I cant find Hugo Besson's name on the top 58...

[Chasedown]

I think Ron and Kai will be drafted.

And Remy wouldnt. As much as I like him.

Just my personal projection and opinion though.

But good luck to all of them

I think Ron will be drafted too, he a kind of player that is fit in todays modern NBA, a Draymond and Jae Crowder type of player.

[IPC]

Bro C2Hamm, Sports Illustrated is with us in projecting Kai to go to Sacramento in the 2nd round. Hehe ��

https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fas...ombine-edition

Well, at least Sacramento has Jimmy Alapag in their G-League affiliate.

[Silent Killer]

It’s official.. Balti can bring his family

https://bit.ly/3wOmmLJ?fbclid=IwAR2iWhm9Jh17So1iR4SzoYKke7Xoq46CsnY9Bv8ESY9ECdFpuK-f8CbI5tQ

[PeeZones]

That SI mock wont be a lone wolf. I am expecting that Kai will be included gradually in other mocks moving forward. Kahit wala sa ESPN wala kaming pake.haha The more Kai will be seen by teams the higher will be the demand. In the words of Joel Bell, they will be dazzled. All those who have seen Kai were intrigue and sees his immense potential eversince.

Lakers is already looking to buy a 2nd round pick but that wont be sufficient. Sacramento has 3 picks this year 4, 37 and 49. Im okay with Sac because Jimmy is affiliated with them.

Analyze what are the ODDs of a projected late second rounder to be drafted in the lottery or first round?haha

[DAdmiral]

Mocks, consensus , collated, and combine invites are not my opinions i don't write them, i might agree with most of them especially the consistent takes , and share them frequently in all relevant threads, to put in appropriate context Bell's statements made and new mock releases on what they really mean,
This is a basketball forum that's the point to discuss and if needed correct exaggeration reports and put appropriate context. e.g. it does not mean if you make a mock the odds are strong one will be drafted. (that's exaggeration and needs appropriate context . if repeated reminder is required so be it.)

if Kai drastically improves his stock by consistently registering in all major mocks (like all the consensus picks do), then absolutely i would concur that he is likely to be drafted. I am just calling it as it is. and yes I follow and believe mainstream assessments that are explained with sound logic.

as one poster mentioned (think was big cat or Coj forgot) , if kai was invited to the combine , he will predict Kai would be drafted. this is sound analysis , because it's literally reading how executives voted. and using it as an indicator. what is not sound , is ignoring all the indicators .. like Kai is immune and exempted from all of them. this is falsehood.

[Goose]

Yes Kai Sotto has the strength, mobility, passing and shooting to play Pick N Roll

RJ Barrett 6'6" Pick N Roll Passing

I don't mind if Kai goes to the New York Knicks. They were a regular play-off contender with John Starks, Patrick Ewing, Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, Larry Johnson, etc. So if Kai grows with the young core, they can compete.

[DAdmiral]

Hate ? Obviously Kai is a major point of discussion in a Philippine thread, as he is litterarally the only homegrown NBA draft prospect in history. Why wouldn't Pinoy basketball fans not be regulary talking about a 1st in history..?
The fact that while he is a top 100 prospect but a long shot is just citing what is popular consensus opinion on Kai as a prospect.. so is everyone who shares the same long shot prospect view of Kai a hater? Really
The topic isn't just popular here in IBN , but litterarally all over social media. And the reality is the common opinion (not all) of experts in mainstream media is Kai is a long shot (period).
Those who predict Kai will.be drafted are actually the exception. (I'm talking about mainstream, not Pinoy media obviously)