Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

[DAdmiral]

EWP's statement could be wrong, or your interpretation of the statement, i don't know. I have not read the transcript so i don't know what the context was. Regardless, that shall not be accepted as an excuse. Dave, be ready to man up and leave, as I am.

If I remember correctly the bet or agreement (whatever you call it ) is I will leave if Kai is drafted in 2022( no excuses , even if reason he didn't get drafted is cause he deferred)
I or You never mentioned the agreement was about which year he would enter LoL. (You're the one changing the goal post here )

[DAdmiral]

No, I'm not moving the goal post and, no, you don't remember it correctly. Those are two separate bets. And that means we could be both gone in case of a split.

Drafted in 2022 yes or No is all I know. (No excuses).

What's the other bet you're mentioning? (Can you share a post where I mentioned anything about that as a bet or agreement

[DAdmiral]

I don't recal agreeing to leave if Kai can defer , but anyway it does not matter as yes I'm super confident he cannot defer and will leave IBN if he can defer . No problem at all

[DAdmiral]

Then at least there should be no problem at all

Bets are on.

Note I'm not betting, I'm just volunteering to leave if wrong and ask absolutely nothing if I win or am correct.

[NOiNU]

With Adelaide’s season practically over, it is time to look ahead. I’m pretty sure Kai is one player who’d gain from this, though I personally prefer he had playoffs experience at this level instead. Nonetheless, what Kai sorely lack is consistency which is but natural for a youngster stepping up to a more competitive league. He should relax and relieve himself of undue pressure now that his team would be playing with virtually nothing at stake. Keep up the intensity, aggressiveness and effort, though, just keep off the “noise” socmed has been bringing him.

More than the increase in playing time, I think it’s more important that the staff give him more usage instead. I also hope the 1 3pa per game goes up to 2-3 attempts. Establishing that facet of his game would only open up more opportunities for him as he is very adept in attacking the closeouts.

It is up to Kai to respond positively to the imminent bigger role. I think he does. Either way, I’m rooting for him.

[Enforcer]

Kai should at least try to get a double double in the last few games of adelaide. For a big man at 7 foot 3 his rebounding number is low.

[jasper222]

Both sides of the coin should watch this video.

4:19 - "You can't compare stats like sometimes with NBA prospects in college; they're in totally different leagues over there whether it be in Europe, Australia, or wherever else."

4:29 - "In order for a scout to really make an informed opinion about an international prospect, they really have to be there and watch every single one of their games. Otherwise, they'll just fall victim to the hype."

These 2 statements both have points for and against mock drafting. What depends is your interpretation, but one thing we can all agree on is this: most mock drafts, and almost all of the bigger ones, don't watch Kai Sotto.

[thatweirdguy]

Both sides of the coin should watch this video.

4:19 - "You can't compare stats like sometimes with NBA prospects in college; they're in totally different leagues over there whether it be in Europe, Australia, or wherever else."

4:29 - "In order for a scout to really make an informed opinion about an international prospect, they really have to be there and watch every single one of their games. Otherwise, they'll just fall victim to the hype."

These 2 statements both have points for and against mock drafting. What depends is your interpretation, but one thing we can all agree on is this: most mock drafts, and almost all of the bigger ones, don't watch Kai Sotto.

The draft really is a crapshoot. No amount of scouting and interview is going to guarantee how a player would turn out to be. IMO it's better to draft older productive players than younger players with high upside. That's why the Spurs, Heat, Raptors have had great success signing/drafting older players.

[PeeZones]

If NBA teams were really reliant on mock drafts, then they would be abolishing their scouting departments. Why would 10 scouts travel to watch NBL games? Are they all just aiming for bessons or dieng?lol actual impact and eye test against great competition is always proven and tested criteria for drafting.

Nakakatawa tung si analyze as if tama na puro naman mali. Problema lang kasi clear impactful si Kai at 19. NZ is already showcasing their young players because it would be impossible for them to reach the playoffs. Kai will have more chances in these remaining games. Dieng was crap in the early season when NZ was aiming to win more games.

[eiji_sawakita]

Hyunjung lee at #58

Kids a legit baller. We already know back in 2018 U18 he will be a problem for us for many years to come.
If he gets drafted that's another homegrown NBA talent from our east Asian brothers, CN, JP, KR.

Whereas our hopes and dreams rest on the skinny shoulder of a 7-3 kid coming from a country who takes pride on guard play so much that we have an obsolete dribble drive offense to showcase and leverage off our perceived advantage.
Even with so much emphasis on guard play how come our best guards can't even get a second look from NBA scouts.

[Linusports]

Kai Sotto
19yo / NBL Australia (6ppg/4rpg 15 minutes per game)

Zhou Qi
19-20yo / CBA China (14ppg/7rpg 29minutes per game)
21yo / Rookie NBA (1ppg/1rpg 7minutes per game)


Kristaps Porzingis
19yo / Liga ACB Europe (10ppg/4rpg 21minutes per game)
20-21yo / Rookie NBA (14ppg/7rpg 28minutes per game)

Joel Embiid
19yo / Kansas NCAA (11ppg/8rpg 23minutes per game)
20yo&21yo / NBA (Injury Seasons)
22-23yo / Rookie NBA (20ppg/7rpg 25minutes per game)

Nikola Jokic
19yo / Serbian League (15ppg/9rpg LEAGUE MVP)
20-21yo / Rookie NBA (10ppg/7rpg 21minutes per game)



Jahlil Okafor
19yo / Duke NCAA (17ppg / 8rpg 30minutes per game)
20-21yo / Rookie NBA (17ppg/7rpg 30minutes per game)

Frank Kaminsky
19yo – 22yo / Wisconsin (Sophomore Year: 4ppg/2rpg 10mins / Senior Year 18ppg/8rpg 33mins)
22-23yo Rookie NBA (7ppg/4rpg 21 minutes)

[mapuakid]

Kids a legit baller. We already know back in 2018 U18 he will be a problem for us for many years to come.
If he gets drafted that's another homegrown NBA talent from our east Asian brothers, CN, JP, KR.

Whereas our hopes and dreams rest on the skinny shoulder of a 7-3 kid coming from a country who takes pride on guard play so much that we have an obsolete dribble drive offense to showcase and leverage off our perceived advantage.
Even with so much emphasis on guard play how come our best guards can't even get a second look from NBA scouts.

It would take years again before another sottos would take their talent overseas whereas east asian brothers are doing it on regular basis.

[jasper222]

Kids a legit baller. We already know back in 2018 U18 he will be a problem for us for many years to come.
If he gets drafted that's another homegrown NBA talent from our east Asian brothers, CN, JP, KR.

Whereas our hopes and dreams rest on the skinny shoulder of a 7-3 kid coming from a country who takes pride on guard play so much that we have an obsolete dribble drive offense to showcase and leverage off our perceived advantage.
Even with so much emphasis on guard play how come our best guards can't even get a second look from NBA scouts.

Even a casual knows that Johnny A and Jayson Castro has attracted NBA eyes. In Johnny A's time, we even had a bigger chance, because the 80s/90s NBA were still running midget guards unlike now, where the only ones notable are DJ Augustin, Chris Chiozza, and Facundo Campazzo. Maybe there's some other names I missed, but those are the only ones I know who are 5'11 and under still playing consistently. The past had Earl Boykins, Mugsey Bogues, Spud Webb, Nate Robinson, heck even Japan's pride Yuta Tabuse. Now that the NBA is trending towards 6'4+ point guards, I don't know. Coach Tab had the right idea when he worked on making Dwight our PG.

What harms our chances imo are 2 things: an obsolete DDO system like you said, and lack of foreign success. Kiefer isn't consistently putting out star numbers in the B League, while Terrence Romeo who after Castro was our best bet, wasn't even considered and is now an old battered version of himself. Honestly if Mang Johnny accepted the offer, we would not experience this kalbaryo. Kai would be a more surefire pick.

[mapuakid]

Even a casual knows that Johnny A and Jayson Castro has attracted NBA eyes. In Johnny A's time, we even had a bigger chance, because the 80s/90s NBA were still running midget guards unlike now, where the only ones notable are DJ Augustin, Chris Chiozza, and Facundo Campazzo. Maybe there's some other names I missed, but those are the only ones I know who are 5'11 and under still playing consistently. The past had Earl Boykins, Mugsey Bogues, Spud Webb, Nate Robinson, heck even Japan's pride Yuta Tabuse. Now that the NBA is trending towards 6'4+ point guards, I don't know. Coach Tab had the right idea when he worked on making Dwight our PG.

What harms our chances imo are 2 things: an obsolete DDO system like you said, and lack of foreign success. Kiefer isn't consistently putting out star numbers in the B League, while Terrence Romeo who after Castro was our best bet, wasn't even considered and is now an old battered version of himself. Honestly if Mang Johnny accepted the offer, we would not experience this kalbaryo. Kai would be a more surefire pick.

Really? Care to share the link here pls?

[Enforcer]

Kai Sotto
19yo / NBL Australia (6ppg/4rpg 15 minutes per game)

Zhou Qi
19-20yo / CBA China (14ppg/7rpg 29minutes per game)
21yo / Rookie NBA (1ppg/1rpg 7minutes per game)


Kristaps Porzingis
19yo / Liga ACB Europe (10ppg/4rpg 21minutes per game)
20-21yo / Rookie NBA (14ppg/7rpg 28minutes per game)

Joel Embiid
19yo / Kansas NCAA (11ppg/8rpg 23minutes per game)
20yo&21yo / NBA (Injury Seasons)
22-23yo / Rookie NBA (20ppg/7rpg 25minutes per game)

Nikola Jokic
19yo / Serbian League (15ppg/9rpg LEAGUE MVP)
20-21yo / Rookie NBA (10ppg/7rpg 21minutes per game)



Jahlil Okafor
19yo / Duke NCAA (17ppg / 8rpg 30minutes per game)
20-21yo / Rookie NBA (17ppg/7rpg 30minutes per game)

Frank Kaminsky
19yo – 22yo / Wisconsin (Sophomore Year: 4ppg/2rpg 10mins / Senior Year 18ppg/8rpg 33mins)
22-23yo Rookie NBA (7ppg/4rpg 21 minutes)

These are the stats that Kai Sotto should be producing. But he is not. It is a mile a way.