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  • Originally posted by PeeZones View Post
    seems legit but I still dont know if he is really talking about our Kai. This is also the first time I heard about him and their sites talking about Kai.

    https://www.facebook.com/ClutchPoint...=page_internal
    https://twitter.com/ClutchPointsApp

    This clutchpoints is somehow already famous. His other affiliations were new ones.
    I think It is Kai Jones who they rank 5th in mock draft.

    (They only put Kai there no surname)

    But someone said Kai Sotto is a mix of hakeem and kristaps in the comments.

    Anyway, Kai Jones is always late first in mock drafts. Sometimes Mid First.

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    • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
      I think It is Kai Jones who they rank 5th in mock draft.

      (They only put Kai there no surname)

      But someone said Kai Sotto is a mix of hakeem and kristaps in the comments.

      Anyway, Kai Jones is always late first in mock drafts. Sometimes Mid First.
      Isn't the guy posted that the same guy who campared Kai to Hakeen and Kristaps? Not sure if he's trolling though but you take a guy who's a mix of Hakeem and Kristaps at 1 no matter how talented Cade is. No question

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      • Peezones, Astigram...he's being sarcastic.

        He's talking about Kai Jones.

        Never mind though, if and when Kai gets into the league...they won't be booing any longer.

        EWP and SBP really took away exposure from our kid.

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        • Originally posted by astigram04
          Well, 8.8 and 4.8 sounds like a lottery pick then
          I know, and it sucks because we know Kai can do miles better than that.

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          • Originally posted by astigram04
            Well, 8.8 and 4.8 sounds like a lottery pick then
            As Coach Allen said in his video.

            Whoever Team draft Kai in the second round will have a steal.

            Anyway, less pressure for Kai Sotto if he is drafted in the second round.

            If u will ask me whick Kai is better. Sotto or Jones. I will say Sotto.

            But right now, Jones is projected higher than Sotto.

            But I really believe Sotto will be a better nba player than Jones. Well, if both are given the chance

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            • Projected Draft Range: 2nd Round to Undrafted

              Pros:

              Decent low post scorer
              Excels at scoring on off-ball motion plays
              Adequate playmaker for his size
              Good rebounder
              Good shot blocker
              Above average athlete
              Has good hands

              Cons:

              Must improve his face-up game
              Needs to improve his free throw shooting
              Needs to improve his passing ability
              Can be too passive on offense
              Needs to improve his defense
              Needs to add strength

              Summary:

              Kai Sotto is an tall, agile big man that could project to be a defensive specialist in the NBA. He can rebound and block shots, and he will look to protect the paint to help his team defensively. He also has some post up skills due to possessing deft footwork and shooting touch in the paint, but he will need extend his range and improve his ability to knock down shots when he is further away from the basket.

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              This is the latest scouting report I seen about Kai Sotto. I know Kai is a decent athlete. I am surpirsed he is listed as above average athlete.


              I disagree in some weakness.

              Kai was a below average ft shooter in his younger fiba stints. But not in TSF.

              Kai is a good passer. I dont know why it is listed as a weakness.

              Kai's faceup game is good. It just that his postup plays is more evident.

              But I agree in the last 3 weakness.(passive on offense, needs to improve defense, need to add strength)

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              • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
                gonzaga’s jalen suggs played american football
                Yes Sir..Jalen Suggs has a physical tools and moves like a typical Wide Receiver, it's just that the Baylor boys are more athletic and stronger that night. Despite all of these I think the dude is special in a way that he ain't the fancy type just plain basketball all throughout.

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                • Originally posted by astigram04
                  They're slowly recognising kai's athleticism. Older scouting reports were probably based on his older clips and Kai has constantly been improving. I agree with the need to improve on his defense. Need to improve on his strength, i think that's common with kids his age. Kai will eventually get there. I'm not sure what was meant by improve on his passing ability because obviously, he has that. If that meant work on the accuracy so to limit turnovers, i see that but i think that's also common among young players even if they're guards. Face up game, yeah and i think that's more on because his dribbling skills is still a work in progress. Is kai passive on offense? I won't call him being passive. It's actually one of his positives, he's a team player. He looks to involve his team mates and that's not being passive. Kai sees the defence and reads it. It's either he creates for himself or for a team mate or pass up for another play to develop. Kai is unlike most prospects, Kai needs touches but not necessarily a lot of attempts.
                  Jokic is always criticized as passive too.Because They both look to pass first.

                  Maybe what they meant is Kai is not really aggresive. Well, as you said. It is not his game e. Kai is a team player.

                  He is not like Shaq or Embiid who will dominate and aggresively use his physical power against his opponents

                  Agree, thats it. Kai needs touches. Welll, everybody needs touches to show off.

                  But Kai is not a ballhog player. He will pass it if it is right to pass. Maybe just limit turnovers.

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                  • Yes, most scouts werent updated with Kai's progress and they really dont dwell a lot of time checking each. That is why maybe in that particular game Kai wasnt good with those he mentioned as weakness. Good thing he did recognize that Kai is an above average athlete. Kai is a very athletic 7'3 and I think just a notch lower than Porzingis. His greatest issue is still his stamina.

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                    • With regards to Kai Jones

                      In this volume, Henry looks at the lunacy of Kai Jones’ peaks, the clear-cut argument for Kessler Edwards as a first round pick, David Johns


                      Standing at 6’11” with a 7’1” wingspan, Jones possesses a combination of size and effective movement skills that’s otherworldly, which, when paired with his baseline of shooting, ball-handling, and defensive nuance skills, makes for some ridiculous sequences. Adding to the lineage of Texas big-men with surplus athleticism, Jones displays a portfolio of functional fluidity that’s tantalizing on its own, regardless of what level of skill accompanies it. Regardless of height, Jones shows some of the most potent leaping in the country with an ability to get off the ground quickly in tight spaces, allowing him to reach his peak in a hurry to block shots and finish dunks in traffic. He pairs this vertical athleticism with freakish lateral abilities, able to slide with guards on the perimeter and weave through help defense on closeouts, pulling out sharp changes of direction with the ball in his hands to avoid charges before maintaining balance and touch on euro-step layups. With a sturdy base despite his lean frame, Jones can stop and start in a way most players with his center of gravity can’t, allowing him to shake defenders for dunks amongst the fray despite his limited, yet still functional, handle.

                      Jones’ contributions around the rim are certainly worth noticing considering how he’s arriving at these numbers. Over the year, Jones is one of five underclassmen that’s finished 33 dunks, a reflection of his athleticism, and he pairs this number with a conversion rate of 72% near the rim despite only 63% of those finishes coming off of assists. This isn’t a jaw-dropping number in terms of self-creation ability, but it reflects how Jones is able to leverage his athleticism into rim opportunities that aren’t always just lobs, and shows that he does have touch to pair with the power that often accompanies his slams. It would also be one thing if Jones was simply using dominant physical traits to control the paint, but we’ve seen some real flashes of shooting skill that don’t seem to be mirages. Jones sports a clean stroke out to the college three, where he’s shooting 42% this year, and more importantly, a level of comfort with putting the ball on the ground on pull-ups inside the arc when closed out on. Typically, players with Jones’ size and athleticism show an all-or-nothing approach at his age, where everything’s a spot up or a finish, but Jones has proven time and again that he’s more than able to hit the brakes in front of sagging help defense to hit a mid-range jumper. How important this skill is at the next level is hard to project, but what this does show is that Jones is really just scratching the surface in terms of how he may be able to contribute as a floor-spacer down the line. Considering his percentages along with the remarkable confidence behind his shots, it’s easy to see him becoming a worthwhile triggerman in the NBA, regardless of position or size. A sample size of 26 attempts can be dangerous to extrapolate on, but sequences such as this are truly one of a kind for someone with Jones’ physical profile:

                      This all not to mention his defense, which has the framework to be incredibly valuable down the line with his ability to move laterally, flip his hips, and reach his leaping peak in contorted positions — all traits that lend themselves to him executing diverse pick-and-roll coverages consistently. As I discussed on my recent appearance on Sense and Scalability, where we mused on the merits of spacing as a concept on both sides of the ball, having bigs who can guard both above and below the screen with similar prolificity unlocks possibilities on the defensive end that aren’t available to teams with more traditional bigs. With his reach, leaping, and fluidity, Jones should be able to deter shots and protect the rim in drop coverage while also being able to ice sideline screens and corral ball-handlers, with true switchability figuring within his reasonable range of outcomes. As you can see above, it’s not only his physical traits that make Jones effective, but also the level of nuance he possesses in areas that are unfamiliar to others in his position group. While the goal for many bigs after a switch is to simply send the handler into help, Jones deploys timely pokes and reaches to pry the ball loose from dribblers to force turnovers. How many 6’10” guys can be counted on to make a college guard nervous in a switch?




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                      • "Drop coverage"

                        There's that phrase again. That's the phrase Givony hates so much. It's either you keep up in the PNR or you're an absolute failure to him.

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                        • Originally posted by BJ_Reloaded View Post
                          Yes Sir..Jalen Suggs has a physical tools and moves like a typical Wide Receiver, it's just that the Baylor boys are more athletic and stronger that night. Despite all of these I think the dude is special in a way that he ain't the fancy type just plain basketball all throughout.
                          it runs in the blood.. father is former nfl player and won super bowl..

                          and yes.. i like his simple approach to the game.. whoever drafts him will be lucky to have him. whether detriot or rockets..

                          baylor did well defensively and shot the ball well..
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                          • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                            Jokic is always criticized as passive too.Because They both look to pass first.

                            Maybe what they meant is Kai is not really aggresive. Well, as you said. It is not his game e. Kai is a team player.

                            He is not like Shaq or Embiid who will dominate and aggresively use his physical power against his opponents

                            Agree, thats it. Kai needs touches. Welll, everybody needs touches to show off.

                            But Kai is not a ballhog player. He will pass it if it is right to pass. Maybe just limit turnovers.
                            Jokić has actually become a little more aggressive this season. He's averaging 26.3 PPG (+6.4 from last season) on 18.3 FGA's. He's increased his point production and efficiency (57.1% from the field, up from 52% the previous season), that's why he's now an MVP candidate.

                            Kai will have to get more aggressive as he gets stronger. Being more aggressive will actually open up more opportunities for teammates.

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                            • Originally posted by Juan Lun View Post
                              That's actually the thing that impressed me with his game, not as flashy as like lets say Jalen's but effective. And the maturity to make the right plays on those crucial moments, I think that will impress the scouts most. I'm not familiar with johnny juzang, will definitely keep an eye on him as well. Nice sig by the way, paige buckets baby
                              juzang is viet-am.. something to watch on in the future if ever vietnam decides to play in asian games next year..

                              paige bueckers. she’s rare commodity where beauty and good baller mix.. her and ionescu will have a good rivalry in the future.. too bad they got eliminated in final four. was suppose to watch the finals.. bawi next year for them..
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                              • Originally posted by jasper222 View Post
                                "Drop coverage"

                                There's that phrase again. That's the phrase Givony hates so much. It's either you keep up in the PNR or you're an absolute failure to him.
                                I don’t think it’s really Givony, more just nba teams being interested mainly because of:

                                “...having bigs who can guard both above and below the screen with similar prolificity unlocks possibilities on the defensive end that aren’t available to teams with more traditional bigs...”

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