Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

[thatweirdguy]

Kobe's first DNP. The beginning of the end for his B-League career?

Yikes .. saw a vid of him in the last game walking angrily to the bench after committing a turnover. Kobe needs to fix himself fast

[DAdmiral]

Remember why are we talking about players with NBA experience ? To illustrate getting playing time this season is more difficult than it was 4.or 5 years ago (2016)
To further illustrate, with 27 experience NBA and maybe 5 future ( in Besson, Dieng Ariel etc ) on average each team has 3 NBA players each. Then add 2 to 3 , Australia and New Zealand World cup/Olympic vets (Goilding , Sobey. Heath, ili etc) so each NBL team.is staring 5 is composed on average of 3 NBA player and 2 Australia National team players. Add a next star each and an Australian B team or NZ national team member to.form the main 7 man core rotation. You can see why that unless you're Zhou or Baba level the chances of even getting 2nd unit bench min (14 min ) is tough.

[DAdmiral]

ok if simply playing 1 NBA game is so easy (and these ex.NBA players aren't old , retiring )
Does the B Leaque have on average 3 ex NBA players (1 game at least) per team?
And do most of the teams have a future NBA prospect ( in top 100 )?
If it's so easy and low level to form teams with this type of NBA experience, where are these teams in any Asian League composed of these # of past and future NBA players?

[DAdmiral]

C'mon it's too obvious
Prior to Kai joining Ignite , we heard no complaints of how lowly or bad Ignite was from.Astig but only praises

Then when he gets Beched all of sudden Ignite and Shaw is bad

Same modus opiradi with Kai and NBL
It was all praise of the NBL and 36ers

Then he gets little playing opportunity

As expected, dish the league, the team.and coach

So too obvious..

[Jupitersa]

Yikes .. saw a vid of him in the last game walking angrily to the bench after committing a turnover. Kobe needs to fix himself fast

Kobe started the season so well dropping 20 points and highlight reels but a lot of us at the same time were concerned at him being inefficient, a ball stopper, and standing around on offense if the ball isn't on his hands. And people were right to be worried what would happen when the teams start to figure Kobe out. That's basically what happened. Good ol' Kobe is almost the same even as far 5 years ago when he was a freshman at Creighton. Still mostly relying on athleticism to force up shots. Becomes a negative asset when his shots aren't falling.

I've seen some comments here wanting Kobe to be the main man and the focal point on offense like at the start of the season. However,.. lets be real here. He's not a 1st or 2nd option material right now. The guy is shooting 34% from the field while taking the 2nd most shot attempts on the team behind Rosco Allen. Absolutely abysmal percentage. There's 3 World Imports that can carry the load on offense. What Kobe needs is a reboot. Do the dirty work like crash the boards and stop looking for his shot.

[DAdmiral]

Ganito na lang..

The Philippines has zero homegrown Pinoys who have made a Div 1 rotation (at least 10 min a game average)

On average each NBL team has at least 8 Div 1 rotation players.

You do realize a lot of the bench warmers in the NBL are Div 1 rotation players with G league experience, it puts in context why Kai is struggling to get NBL minutes

[CoJ]

there's a reason why Australia is part of FIBA top 5 in the rankings (3rd right?) and finished with a bronze medal in the recent olympics, while the Philippines is around the 30s rank

there's also a reason why we consistently lose to Australia in FIBA games and friendlies

further, if the NBL is a barubal league, logic dictates that a player who can barely crack the rotation is way below/worst than the league's mediocre talent

[CoJ]

if Australia is only better than the philippines because of their height advantage, does this mean we could beat team USA (even in a friendly?)

well if Filipino guards are exposed to high level competition on a regular basis then maybe we could say that pound for pound we are better than australia, but until we produce a facundo campazzo or jj barea, small players with high level skills, then we could say we are better, mind you those players are just rotational.players in the nba

[CoJ]

reposting Paul Lee's interview regarding jj barea to get a clear picture of the talent gap

[Silent Killer]

Yikes .. saw a vid of him in the last game walking angrily to the bench after committing a turnover. Kobe needs to fix himself fast

Kobe started the season so well dropping 20 points and highlight reels but a lot of us at the same time were concerned at him being inefficient, a ball stopper, and standing around on offense if the ball isn't on his hands. And people were right to be worried what would happen when the teams start to figure Kobe out. That's basically what happened. Good ol' Kobe is almost the same even as far 5 years ago when he was a freshman at Creighton. Still mostly relying on athleticism to force up shots. Becomes a negative asset when his shots aren't falling.

I've seen some comments here wanting Kobe to be the main man and the focal point on offense like at the start of the season. However,.. lets be real here. He's not a 1st or 2nd option material right now. The guy is shooting 34% from the field while taking the 2nd most shot attempts on the team behind Rosco Allen. Absolutely abysmal percentage. There's 3 World Imports that can carry the load on offense. What Kobe needs is a reboot. Do the dirty work like crash the boards and stop looking for his shot.

combination of both.. the coach should done his job on encouraging kobe to do other stuffs on the court that not necessarily points (hustle points, defending, off ball movements). kobe is for sure a willing listener.. he'll listen.

[thatweirdguy]

if Australia is only better than the philippines because of their height advantage, does this mean we could beat team USA (even in a friendly?)

well if Filipino guards are exposed to high level competition on a regular basis then maybe we could say that pound for pound we are better than australia, but until we produce a facundo campazzo or jj barea, small players with high level skills, then we could say we are better, mind you those players are just rotational.players in the nba

To be honest we can't even produce someone of Delly or Patty Mills calibre guard. Campazzo , Barrea might be small in stature but they are really strong and skilled and quick. I don't think we have any local prospects who can match them right now. We don't even have any local Div 1 prospect.. SK, Japan, China had us beat.

[thatweirdguy]

combination of both.. the coach should done his job on encouraging kobe to do other stuffs on the court that not necessarily points (hustle points, defending, off ball movements). kobe is for sure a willing listener.. he'll listen.

I don't know what's exactly happening behind the scenes but I think there's a reason why Kobe is being benched. For sure the coach had a talk already with Kobe. He's still getting the green light to shoot but he still doing the same things. And he's habits and body language are going the affect the whole team.. he's getting paid like an import maybe it's about time he start acting like one.

[ja.he]

Kobe started the season so well dropping 20 points and highlight reels but a lot of us at the same time were concerned at him being inefficient, a ball stopper, and standing around on offense if the ball isn't on his hands. And people were right to be worried what would happen when the teams start to figure Kobe out. That's basically what happened. Good ol' Kobe is almost the same even as far 5 years ago when he was a freshman at Creighton. Still mostly relying on athleticism to force up shots. Becomes a negative asset when his shots aren't falling.

I've seen some comments here wanting Kobe to be the main man and the focal point on offense like at the start of the season. However,.. lets be real here. He's not a 1st or 2nd option material right now. The guy is shooting 34% from the field while taking the 2nd most shot attempts on the team behind Rosco Allen. Absolutely abysmal percentage. There's 3 World Imports that can carry the load on offense. What Kobe needs is a reboot. Do the dirty work like crash the boards and stop looking for his shot.

He should watch and learn from Caelan Tiongson who scores vary game-to-game but has a good statline in rebounds, assists and steal.

Watched his team Taoyuan and he is really good doing other stuffs. Too bad, the locals are kinda weak.

[digitalsuperman]

I don't know what's exactly happening behind the scenes but I think there's a reason why Kobe is being benched. For sure the coach had a talk already with Kobe. He's still getting the green light to shoot but he still doing the same things. And he's habits and body language are going the affect the whole team.. he's getting paid like an import maybe it's about time he start acting like one.

could be he is injured?

[thatweirdguy]

could be he is injured?

Possibly but he's not exactly gun shy when he gets the ball.. he can still jump through the roof when he wants too. I dunno he's probably thinking he's going to do the exact same things until his shots start falling again. He's such a gifted player that I still want him to realize his potential but at the same time I'm starting to see why he may never reach it.