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  • For now , Navarro has a better plus / minus in the Gilas than Kobe. Coach Tab will prefer Navarro than Paras and most fans will agree.
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    • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
      At Peezones

      If that's the case the team's defensive pts given up per possession should be lower when Kai is on the court, eh..hindi it's higher, Cairns scores more points per possession when Kai was on the court. Stats do not lie , do you understand that stat?
      Huh? What are the stats of that?

      Anyway, With how 36ers played yesterday. All of them are surely have a negative +-.

      And I disagree that Kai's 2 blocks are overrated. I even think his rim protection and intimidating factor are not being appreciated much.

      Though I admit, it is not a very good game for Kai. And I hope and expect for him to produce better numbers along the line.

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      • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
        The coaches assessment
        "KAI'S a PROJECT, a 5 to 10 min tops. Is spot on.
        Considering this was a blowout game.

        If we put it in this context our expectations are rightfully tempered

        The next star players are key RESERVEs 15 to 20 min guys, (like King) different expectation , those are NBA prospects

        Kai's min are similar to many (not all) development player level (like Harris)
        King played 10 mins and 6 secs yesterday. Just 16 seconds more than Kai

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        • Originally posted by yogaflame View Post
          those garbage time in 4th quarter, where the lead was iinsurmountable, Kai should have been given those minutes up to the end of the game for training and to boost his confidence. Instead they put there starter Humphries to finish the game and put there starting center at risk of getting injured. I dont want to make it controversion but tts just me, is it something to do that Humphries is senior or has a very big contract?
          It was an ok not spectacular game for Kai. And while I do agree he should have gotten more garbage time minutes there's also the risk of him getting exposed / committing more mistakes the longer he plays. So I guess that's alright for his first game. At least he has a feel for a NBL game now

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          • With minimal minutes this was to be expected and I'm fine with it. A big part of people's problem here was that Kai was too slow and too soft. His play last game said otherwise.

            As for Kai's blocks being overrated, how? Blocks are blocks, nothing else. His statline is still much better than a bunch of zeros. Baby steps, unlike some people here who think Kai's defenders are the ones who want him to be drafted like a superstar, same people who are currently making fun of that statline (coming off injury!). Crab mentality is real.

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            • Originally posted by B L A C K S U N View Post
              Kai is a truly triple single walking machine. He did put effort playing defense, to be fair. But just as expected, his fanboys are blaming his teammates and coach for his mediocre performance.

              This is how I expected from here on out, If Kai played great he will get all of the credit but if he doesn't it's because of his coach and teammates.
              Nah. If Kai played great. Ofc, he will have some credit. But not all. ( Unless it is monsterly great like 20 and 10, but I doubt it will happen for now)

              Anyway this is just the first game. Hope he plays and perform better in dec 28.

              Game1: 1pt, 3rebs, 2ast, 2blks, 1/4 FT in 10 mins.

              Let's see if Kai can improve this.

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              • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                At Peezones

                If that's the case the team's defensive pts given up per possession should be lower when Kai is on the court, eh..hindi it's higher, Cairns scores more points per possession when Kai was on the court. Stats do not lie , do you understand that stat?
                Sir analyzed. I am confused on what is your take in stats.

                At first you said " It is not about stats", now you are saying " stats dont lie"

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                • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
                  It was an ok not spectacular game for Kai. And while I do agree he should have gotten more garbage time minutes there's also the risk of him getting exposed / committing more mistakes the longer he plays. So I guess that's alright for his first game. At least he has a feel for a NBL game now
                  Kai will be fine, and will learn allot and will gain allot from it and it will beeifit his NBA draft dream and also our national team. To be honest, the NBL league is a different level compared to PBA, and Japan Bleague and other Asian leagues. It is very fast, physical, and allot of shooters.
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                  • Originally posted by yogaflame View Post
                    Kai will be fine, and will learn allot and will gain allot from it and it will beeifit his NBA draft dream and also our national team. To be honest, the NBL league is a different level compared to PBA, and Japan Bleague and other Asian leagues. It is very fast, physical, and allot of shooters.
                    It is the physical part that really took noticed for me.

                    If you watch all or most games ( Not only adelaide), You can see the allowed banging of bodies.

                    I saw a lot of plays that would be a foul already in Fiba or Nba. But in NBL, it is play on.

                    Anyway, For sure Kai will adjust.

                    Good thing he have the right mindset in giving and receiving physicality

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                    • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                      It is the physical part that really took noticed for me.

                      If you watch all or most games ( Not only adelaide), You can see the allowed banging of bodies.

                      I saw a lot of plays that would be a foul already in Fiba or Nba. But in NBL, it is play on.

                      Anyway, For sure Kai will adjust.

                      Good thing he have the right mindset in giving and receiving physicality
                      I like that physicality in NBL. I miss those good old days of physicality in NBA. now nba is too soft, and post players and defenders are very much punish while three point shooters are so pampered.
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                      • Originally posted by yogaflame View Post
                        I like that physicality in NBL. I miss those good old days of physicality in NBA. now nba is too soft, and post players and defenders are very much punish while three point shooters are so pampered.
                        It's because to most casuals that's not pleasing to watch. They'll rather see high scoring, up and down games with plenty of highlights. And the NBA likes cater to these type of viewers.

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                        • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                          Sir analyzed. I am confused on what is your take in stats.

                          At first you said " It is not about stats", now you are saying " stats dont lie"
                          Context, if we're talking about a specific metric , (e.g. points per possession)that metric does not lie

                          If the context is what I mentioned before that increasing mock draft is not all about individual production stats, that indeed true

                          So it basically depends on context

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                          • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                            King played 10 mins and 6 secs yesterday. Just 16 seconds more than Kai
                            It's King's average minutes (around 15 ) his minutes are down last 2 games due to a hip injury though

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                            • Originally posted by jasper222 View Post
                              With minimal minutes this was to be expected and I'm fine with it. A big part of people's problem here was that Kai was too slow and too soft. His play last game said otherwise.

                              As for Kai's blocks being overrated, how? Blocks are blocks, nothing else. His statline is still much better than a bunch of zeros. Baby steps, unlike some people here who think Kai's defenders are the ones who want him to be drafted like a superstar, same people who are currently making fun of that statline (coming off injury!). Crab mentality is real.
                              these games clearly highlight that Kai is a complete player who could be excellent on both ends of the floor. I am satisfied with what is happening. Everyone here was bashing Kai regarding his defense though I know he is very capable. Ngayun wala nayang mapuna. Nakakatawa yung analyze.haha nagiinsist on things not related to Kai. Kai's impact is felt and real. Those are the things that matter with REAL scouts and against pros in a very physical league. NBA would be too soft and too easy after the NBL stint.

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                              • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                                Context, if we're talking about a specific metric , (e.g. points per possession)that metric does not lie

                                If the context is what I mentioned before that increasing mock draft is not all about individual production stats, that indeed true

                                So it basically depends on context
                                Data is always true but your interpretation of the DATA was so wrong.lol Kai was visibly the best defensive player when he is on the floor and yet you twist it that it was his fault.hahaha

                                How can CJ not use Kai when Kai is their best defensive big and could offer a lot on offense?haha Kai attempted two shots and both were fouled. There is a JVG interview and he doesn't see Kai as below Bairstow in the rotation but a guy after DJ and IH.

                                Sobrang mali and semplang mga takes mo.haha

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