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Originally posted by DAdmiral
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Sorry to disagree with you bro but nothing beats "actual" games. A scrimmage is a scrimmage. An actual game is an actual game. As soldiers would say, there's nothing like fighting in a real combat.Last edited by JAMSKIE; 04-03-2021, 12:27 PM."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV -
The problem with this set -up is that both the Gilas cadets & TNT & its import/s will have some sort of friendly atmosphere. On the other hand if the cadets are to face a PBA team in an actual game, there's that drive by players of opposite teams to try to beat the other team to prove something. If you're a Kouame for instance, you want to prove yourself against the top bigs of the PBA like CStand, Slaughter, Almazan, Erram, Tautuaa. Or if you're a Dwight Ramos, you want to measure yourself against a Matt Wright or a Rayray Parks or a Calvin Abueva. Or if you're a 1GDL or a RJ Abarrientos you want to try yourself if you can hold your own against a Jayson Castro or a Robert Bolick or a Kiefer Ravena.Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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We can suggest all we want.
But only sbp and coach tab knows what will they do.
May is a crucial month. It is the preperation month for consecutive international eventsComment
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Tab does , (he knows what is important), no one is suggesting not to have official games, the PBA, pocket games or tournaments is a last resort, do note the option as a regular invite team was turned down.
Having said that a few pocket games vs PBA teams is not in lieu of having tune up games vs hybrid teams using FIBA rules.
People may not know that prior to the Pandemic the cadets did have arranged games vs PBa teams using FIBA rules.
Having these games closed door are always part of the preparation, and are more important than PBA all filipino games, in planning prospect discussions with Tab these thought is stressed.Last edited by DAdmiral; 04-03-2021, 10:25 PM.Comment
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Are there any video clips of Kai Sotto scoring against Kouame and also Angelo scoring against Kai?Comment
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I don't think they will show it to the media even if there isOriginally posted by tomcat View PostComment
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TnT does not become a non team , and all individuals by adding an import with size , that they dont have, when you tpractice against them.
Note in simulation you don't even need the import reinforcement to play offensive end if he's not familiar with the system
Finally doing this is not replacing actual games , you do not miss out on playing actual games by doing thisLast edited by DAdmiral; 04-04-2021, 11:46 PM.Comment
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In practical sense , the PBA may not start until mid May,
But IATF may allow professional practice, sooner
So really it is inevitable that Gilas have close door practice games as part of their training vs PBA teams with 1 or 2 import centers .Comment
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Yes they have clips , people have requested (fans and media ) have requested to watch them, obviously they haven't shared them.Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
What people have seen between the 4 walls of a gym for all the times Kai has played in Ignite and Inspire (last 5 months). Is in the minds of those who have witnessed it. 100% sure they've shared what they've seen within circles of the industry that need the info for critical decisions that matter .
It is not true that there are no people who have significant exposure watching Kai that know how he has performed and his level, strength and weaknesses. It's pointless to speculate what their assessment is , but you can be assured there is indeed people who have assessed him and the results of what the actual assessments are will be reflected in the decisions made in the next 3 monthsComment
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you are funny, last time i will reply regarding this.Originally posted by DAdmiral View PostYou're really not reading and understanding the details.
Let me spell it out for the nth time.
The definition of a US prospect is signed with a US pro team,
Definition of an international prospect, lived and played overseas not in the US anytime in the last 3 years prior to the draft.
So Lamelo is classified as an international draft prospect not US (despite being American), cause he played in both Lithuania and Australia in the last 3 years.
Therefor as an international prospect he is required to declare entry to be included in the list before turning 22 year old.
So yes for the nth time those who declare early both US college players and international players are on the list!
Not Kai , he is classified as a US prospect cause of signing with a US based pro team
Here is the list of early entrants included in the list both US college underclassmen and international prospects below 22 years old. All the other college graduates, international 22 years old and US pros are not required to declare but are automatic entries and are not on the list
Hope that's clear
The number of players who are automatically entered or eligible is just too many to list. (In thousands)
"You will not hear an announcement from Green, Nix or whoever that they will enter the draft this year in the same way you did not hear an announcement from RJ and Lamelo that they entered last years draft .
The only announcement we heard from these people is they joined ignite or NBL, that in essence is their announcement of entry and intent to join the next draft.
Kai in essence has made his announcement when he joined Ignite"
thats your comment above. then you contradicted yourself
"So Lamelo is classified as an international draft prospect not US (despite being American), cause he played in both Lithuania and Australia in the last 3 years.
Therefor as an international prospect he is required to declare entry to be included in the list before turning 22 year old.
So yes for the nth time those who declare early both US college players and international players are on the list!"
also on the list you provided, lamelo is nowhere to be found.why? because he is in the "also eligible" portion. ifComment
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i don't even know why he is being naturalized aside from the fact he can play as a filipino. he is not that dominating against college players lolOriginally posted by astigram04Comment
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should have done that years ago. fiba would not even know hahaOriginally posted by DAdmiral View PostComment
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trying harder to "hit" the cadets. if anything, cadets should play against import laden teams and not against all filipino teams. aside from the smc teams, i think the center for pba teams is 6"8 and below.Originally posted by Sikatrix View PostComment
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Sorry for the confusion and contradiction on lamelo .
Hope you do understand now the draft process , and the two ways to be made available to be selected
1. Automatically entered (no need to declare) as they reach a status of eligibility defined differently for US and international
prospects .( There is NO official list of all the players automatically entered!)
2. Those who need to declare and put their names in (enter ) earlier than when they reach the status of being automatically eligible. Again different for US college underclassmen and international prospects, and other .."also eligible ". e.g. US based pros. (There is a list of early draft declared entries)
This is not my opinion, just read the CBA it's all there .
As to how Ignite one and done players are treated, unless they have an exception to the rule, it's mere speculation, there is nothing to suggest they have a special exception. Have we heard anything to suggest that ?Comment
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here's the section of the NBA CBA regarding Draft Eligibility:Originally posted by KOYATURLING View Post
ARTICLE X
PLAYER ELIGIBILITY AND NBA DRAFT
Section 1. Player Eligibility.
(a) No player may sign a Contract or play in the NBA unless he has been eligible for selection in at least one (1) NBA Draft. No player shall be eligible for selection in more than two (2) NBA Drafts.
(b) A player shall be eligible for selection in the first NBA Draft with respect to which he has satisfied all applicable requirements of Section1(b)(i) below and one of the requirements of Section 1(b)(ii) below:
(i) The player (A) is or will be at least nineteen (19) years of age during the calendar year in which the Draft is held, and
(B) with respect to a player who is not an international player (defined below), at least one (1) NBA Season has elapsed since the player’s graduation from high school (or,if the player did not graduate from high school, since the graduation of the class with which the player would have graduated had he graduated from high school); and
(ii) (A) The player has graduated from a four-year college or university in the United States (or is to graduate in the calendar year in which the Draft is held) and has no remaining intercollegiate basketball eligibility; or
(B) The player is attending or previously attended a four-year college or university in the United States, his original class in such college or university has graduated (or is to graduate in the calendar year in which the Draft is held), and he has no remaining
intercollegiate basketball eligibility; or
(C) The player has graduated from high school in the United States, did not enroll in a four-year college or university in the United States, and four (4) calendar years have elapsed since such player’s high school graduation; or
(D) The player did not graduate from high school in the United States, and four (4) calendar years have elapsed since the graduation of the class with which the player would have graduated had he graduated from high school; or
(E) The player has signed a player contract with a “professional basketball team not in the NBA” (defined below) that is located anywhere in the world, and has rendered services under such contract prior to the January 1 immediately
preceding such Draft; or
(F) The player has expressed his desire to be selected in the Draft in a writing received by the NBA at least sixty (60) days prior to such Draft (an “Early Entry” player); or (G) If the player is an “international player” (defined below), and notwithstanding anything contained in subsections (A) through (F) above:
(1) The player is or will be twenty-two (22) years of age during the calendar year of th Draft; or
(2) The player has signed a player contract with a “professional basketball team not in the NBA” (defined below) that is located in the United States, and has rendered services under such contract prior to the Draft; or
(3) The player has expressed his desire to be selected in the Draft in a writing received by the NBA at least sixty (60) days prior to such Draft (an “Early Entry” player)
(c) For purposes of this Article X, an “international player” is a player:
(i) who has maintained a permanent residence outside of the United States for at least the three (3) years prior to the Draft, while participating in the game of basketball as an amateur or as a professional outside of the United States; (ii) who has never previously enrolled in a college or university in the United States; and (iii) who did not complete high school in the United
States.
(d) For purposes of this Article X, a “professional basketball team not in the NBA” means any team that pays money or compensation of any kind – in excess of a stipend for living expenses – to a basketball player for rendering services to such team
source: https://cosmic-s3.imgix.net/3c7a0a50...-Agreement.pdfComment
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