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  • NBL contracts explained to regulate competitive balance against richer teams

    first rule : each team is restricted to 4 marquee players (maximum of 3 imports can be used for the 4)
    The amount included in the cap for a club’s first Marquee player is $171,654.

    However, that value increases for each additional Marquee guy on your roster. A second Marquee player will cost you $228,873 in the cap, a third is valued at $286,091 while a fourth costs $343,309.



    2nd rule : The Five Player Salary Maximum Rule

    One rule the system has to ensure there is an element of talent spread across the league is the Five Player Salary Maximum rule.

    This rule is designed to stop a club from simply signing all the best players – having a bench full of talent who would be starters on other rosters – and essentially buying a championship.

    The rule states that the five lowest-paid players on each roster cannot have a combined player value of more than 40% of the Salary Floor.

    In other words, every team needs to have some cheaper players on their roster to balance out the higher-priced talent.

    With this season’s floor set at $1.287 million, the combined value of each team’s bottom five players cannot exceed $514,800.

    : Asian restricted player rule
    Special Restricted Player. These are players from a select number of Asian countries that the NBL has selected as possible areas to market the NBL and bring more supporters in from outside of the Australian or New Zealand market.

    are generally treated in the same way as a local player. (must fit within the rules of 4 marquee player and 5 player maximum rule )


    Here is the thing if a team is to offer an Asian import over $ 200k , he has to be classified as one of the 3 open imports as one of the 4 marquee players.

    THE $ 200 K PLAYER CANNOT COME FROM OUTSIDE THE 4 MARGUEE PLAYERS , because the $ 200k , plus 4 other signings ( 5 player rule ) CANNOT exceed $ 514 K. so for instance if Kai get's $ 200k , then $ 314 K is left for 4 players , that's around $ 75 k each, which is significantly below the $ 100k above avg for bench players.


    In summary to make it simple, if a team wants to sign Kai to over $ 200k , they have to sign him as an open import as one of the 4 marquee players. the 36ers did not. of course the Next star sign up is separate as that is a league signing , not a TEAM signing.
    Last edited by DAdmiral; 08-11-2021, 11:41 PM.

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    • tasmania signs MiKyle McIntosh

      Philippine Malditas to FIFA Womens World Cup 2023

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      • Originally posted by Rds View Post
        Kai and his support system was hitting for the homerun. Akala nila siguro 5 years is too long to be NBA ready. But with Adelaide's seemingly full frontcourt I don't know how Kai can show himself to scouts. Well I assume training with NBL players will still be good for him. In that case he will need to ask to join the Philippine team to show his improvement.
        Actually man, sayang talaga for me na he did not take the deal. In my opinion, Kai at Real Madrid is better than his arrangements with Ignite and the NBL. I am not sure if there is a FIBA clause if he plays for Real Madrid, but from purely, what's best for his basketball development, career, and future potential NBA career? Real Madrid would have been the best path, hands down. Also, it is not necessary that he finish his 5 years, though frankly, I am not familiar with buyouts and contracts, but if let's say he develops/plays for 3 years in Real Madrid, maybe an NBA team can draft him and buy him out if ever? Either way, Kai would have been a much better player right now if he had taken the deal and he might as well have been in the NBA right now as a 1st/2nd round draft pick. We should have been watching Kai in the summer league right now.

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        • International buyout's explained
          Jeremy Berman explores the contractual complications that can be presented when an international player is selected in the NBA Draft.


          Often, when an international player shows significant potential at a young age, they’ll sign a long term contract with a high level European team that locks them in from the age of 15 or 16 until they are upwards of 20 years old. The player is guaranteed a good bit of money, while the team gets to develop and control the player’s playing status. On the surface, you might think that once a player enters the draft, they are free from any obligation to their previous team. However, in most situations, that is not the case.

          Usually, when a young international player agrees to a contract with a top-level European team, they agree to pay a fee to get out of their contract to go to the NBA. This is commonly referred to as an “NBA out clause,” or an “international player buyout.” The NBA out clause is negotiated between the player’s agent and the team. Depending on the agreement, the cost may fluctuate from year to year. The payment schedule for these buyouts is also a matter of negotiation between the player agent and his international team.

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          • Originally posted by Stevy View Post
            Actually man, sayang talaga for me na he did not take the deal. In my opinion, Kai at Real Madrid is better than his arrangements with Ignite and the NBL. I am not sure if there is a FIBA clause if he plays for Real Madrid, but from purely, what's best for his basketball development, career, and future potential NBA career? Real Madrid would have been the best path, hands down. Also, it is not necessary that he finish his 5 years, though frankly, I am not familiar with buyouts and contracts, but if let's say he develops/plays for 3 years in Real Madrid, maybe an NBA team can draft him and buy him out if ever? Either way, Kai would have been a much better player right now if he had taken the deal and he might as well have been in the NBA right now as a 1st/2nd round draft pick. We should have been watching Kai in the summer league right now.
            If I remember correctly, the rumored main reason why kai did not accept the euroleague offer is because he will not be allowed to play for Gilas. And we know how Kai love to play for Gilas, evidenced by sacrificing ignite.

            anyway, past is past, we cannot take it back anymore.

            Kai's focus now is in NBL. A good showing, or even decent showing will get him drafted in nba.

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            • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
              International buyout's explained
              Jeremy Berman explores the contractual complications that can be presented when an international player is selected in the NBA Draft.


              Often, when an international player shows significant potential at a young age, they’ll sign a long term contract with a high level European team that locks them in from the age of 15 or 16 until they are upwards of 20 years old. The player is guaranteed a good bit of money, while the team gets to develop and control the player’s playing status. On the surface, you might think that once a player enters the draft, they are free from any obligation to their previous team. However, in most situations, that is not the case.

              Usually, when a young international player agrees to a contract with a top-level European team, they agree to pay a fee to get out of their contract to go to the NBA. This is commonly referred to as an “NBA out clause,” or an “international player buyout.” The NBA out clause is negotiated between the player’s agent and the team. Depending on the agreement, the cost may fluctuate from year to year. The payment schedule for these buyouts is also a matter of negotiation between the player agent and his international team.
              Thanks for the clarification, since Kai's contract would have been 1 million for 5 years. I guess his buyout would have been relatively reasonable, definitely cheaper than the Bolmaro guy in the article.

              Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
              If I remember correctly, the rumored main reason why kai did not accept the euroleague offer is because he will not be allowed to play for Gilas. And we know how Kai love to play for Gilas, evidenced by sacrificing ignite.

              anyway, past is past, we cannot take it back anymore.

              Kai's focus now is in NBL. A good showing, or even decent showing will get him drafted in nba.
              Yes man, which is why I said that, purely the best path for his development would have been to sign with Real Madrid. No worries dude, Kai still has a very good chance of being drafted this year. I do hope that his 10 minute projection from Silent Killer will increase as the NBL season progresses.

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              • This is just all speculation estimate from me , but factoring all the information i have on hand , this is how i would estimate and structure Kai's arrangements.

                36 ers, 2 years guaranteed, with 3rd year as a player option.
                declared in salary in NBL books - $ 100 to 150 k annual. , so in essence only $ 100 k is his remaining contract for 2nd year guaranteed. , So if an NBA team draft him in 2022 , they just have to pay that last year, however the "out clause" amount will be lower , say 50 % , so only $ 50K , that way no NBA team will see it is a deterrent to draft him even late and pay the low out clause,

                2nd a broadcast and marketing arrangement driven by revenue as a result of Kai patronage viewers playing for 36ers is arranged , that amount can easily be $ 200k annually. Note SMART has a model of it's subscribers paying for content , Kai's 36ers game content is build in. (I've done this. in essence this is like pacman arranging for a pay per view deal)

                So in essence Kai's total value annually for his 36ers deal can be over $ 300K . ($ 500 k is possible) to me this is realistic , and addresses the need of all parties , including fitting within the salary framework system of the NBL.

                with increases every year , it's not unreasonable for the total 3 year value of the arrangement to be close to $ 2 million.

                just my estimate. obviously it is just an opinion estimate based on information ...
                Last edited by DAdmiral; 08-12-2021, 02:20 AM.

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                • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                  If I remember correctly, the rumored main reason why kai did not accept the euroleague offer is because he will not be allowed to play for Gilas. And we know how Kai love to play for Gilas, evidenced by sacrificing ignite.

                  anyway, past is past, we cannot take it back anymore.

                  Kai's focus now is in NBL. A good showing, or even decent showing will get him drafted in nba.
                  LOL he didnt sacrifice ignite, EWP got cold feet that he will be benched and they promptly offered him to Gilas, get your facts straight

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                  • BTW interesting that Hugo Besson also signed a three-season contract, in the NBL (Breakers) with, as often in this case, clauses that will allow him to leave his engagement, if he were to land an NBA contract in particular.

                    He had this to say about the decision to join the Breakers “For each choice, there are pluses and minuses, but this NZ Breakers matches my style, and my NBA Draft goal next season. “.

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                    I hope people can now see, the strategy on the approach. Hugo is an import sign up

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                    • ^^

                      Based on those stats alone. I think, its most likely Kai will only have 10-15mins./ game. At its lowest, i think its 8-12mins. If he proves himself within the next 5-10 regular games, he may become a solid 15-25mins. backup for Adelaide.

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                      • Originally posted by PaVi View Post
                        ^^

                        Based on those stats alone. I think, its most likely Kai will only have 10-15mins./ game. At its lowest, i think its 8-12mins. If he proves himself within the next 5-10 regular games, he may become a solid 15-25mins. backup for Adelaide.
                        Can't imagine what NBL Facebook Page will be, Once Kai plays an average less than 10 mins. a game... you known hot toxic Filipino's online can be..

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                        • Originally posted by fadzki View Post
                          Can't imagine what NBL Facebook Page will be, Once Kai plays an average less than 10 mins. a game... you known hot toxic Filipino's online can be..
                          Dude expect a lot of crappy comments and relentless bashing HAHAHAHA.

                          Originally posted by robert0326
                          I will pray for his success in NBL ..
                          I am sure that we all are dude. Hehehe. I hope he will have a nice season in the NBL. He will get drafted if he does, and we will finally have a Filipino NBA player.

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                          • Originally posted by PaVi View Post
                            ^^

                            Based on those stats alone. I think, its most likely Kai will only have 10-15mins./ game. At its lowest, i think its 8-12mins. If he proves himself within the next 5-10 regular games, he may become a solid 15-25mins. backup for Adelaide.
                            Isaac Humphries averaged 6.9 points, 3.6 rebounds and 1.0 blocks while shooting 58 percent in 16 minutes per game in his rookie season for the Sydney Kings(2017–2018) making six starts in 26 appearances. He was subsequently named the NBL Rookie of the Year.

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                            • Originally posted by tomcat View Post
                              Isaac Humphries averaged 6.9 points, 3.6 rebounds and 1.0 blocks while shooting 58 percent in 16 minutes per game in his rookie season for the Sydney Kings(2017–2018) making six starts in 26 appearances. He was subsequently named the NBL Rookie of the Year.
                              The kid must have been efficient and possibly played good defense. Which doesn't usually appear in the box scores. 16 minutes seems to be a lot for a rookie. And he started too. Statswise alone I think Kai can produce the same if not more, as long as he plays good enough defense to stay on the floor.

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                              • Originally posted by fadzki View Post
                                Can't imagine what NBL Facebook Page will be, Once Kai plays an average less than 10 mins. a game... you known hot toxic Filipino's online can be..
                                coach will be bashed for not playing kai for 40 minutes
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