Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

[PeeZones]

The kid,works really hard,hustles alot,very athletic 7'1,starting to develop a mid range shot,and he's going to an NCAA Div1 school that's a good developer of modern big man,I only see upside with the young man.I hope he stays the whole 4 years and get a diploma,or at least a minimum of 3 years,the only issue is his weight,he would put on some weight before he goes to draft for sure,with the schools program.

If Chet would stay long in the NCAA, he would end up as mid to late first rounder and his position would really depend on how that body would develop.

[DAdmiral]

Cite a chinese NBL player who earns a lot with a benefactor? Your theory is too far-fetch and too complicated to even materialize.lol It is easier to just say they paid kay that amount and try to understand the reason for such massive contract despite not being a next big star player.

Ok, i've dealt directly with the NBL teams, for "Asian players" , part of what it takes to make it works is beyond the limits of normal NBL salaries (note the team salary cap is just $ 1.5 M) is "income " from revenue as a result to the players popularity in an external market., ( e.g. Baba and Japan, , Inidan Bhriguvanshi (36ers)/ Singh and Chinese Terry Li (Breakers)

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/basketball/114418192/breakers-snap-up-young-chinese-basketballer-terry-li-for-development-spot

Li's compensation was not limited to Breakers but was sponsored by his Chinese benefactor.

[PeeZones]

yes really..

BTW can you post the content news of this so called $ million dollar (not pesos) contract from Adelaide, (not from external / endorsements) etc ?

We dont have a detailed writeup of the contract. Only a video of it from a legit Adelaide news. I think that site is well known to those in NZ and Australia. It is a paid subscription site similar to US news sites.

https://www.news.com.au/more-information

https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/rising-star-72-filipino-basketballer-kai-sotto-has-signed-a-multimillion-dollar-deal-with-adelaide-36ers/video/468c1a7d65794b635f29970f7f4bce02

https://web.facebook.com/news.com.au?_rdc=1&_rdr

Caption of the video was Rising Star: 7'2 , Filipino basketballer Kai Sotto has signed a multi-million dollar deal with Adelaide 36ers
Rising Star: 7'2 , Filipino basketballer Kai Sotto has signed a multi-million dollar deal with Adelaide 36ers
Kai Sotto has signed a multi-year deal to play for the Adelaide 36ers in the Australian National Basketball League. The 18 year-old, who is 7'2 (218cm) will join the team from the 2021-22 season.

[PeeZones]

Ok, i've dealt directly with the NBL teams, for "Asian players" , part what to make it works beyond the limits of normal NBL salaries (note the team salary cap is just $ 1.5 M) is "income " from revenue as a result to the players popularity in an external market., ( e.g. Baba and Japan, , Inidan Bhriguvanshi (36ers)/ Singh and Chinese Terry Li (Breakers)

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/basketball/114418192/breakers-snap-up-young-chinese-basketballer-terry-li-for-development-spot

Li's compensation was not limited to Breakers but was sponsored by his Chinese benefactor.

I dont think SBP pays for that contract because they cant just demand on the availability of Kai and they somehow would negotiate to EWP and 36ers for them to release him.

Also, how much was the contract for that Li?

[DAdmiral]

We dont have a detailed writeup of the contract. Only a video of it from a legit Adelaide news. I think that site is well known to those in NZ and Australia. It is a paid subscription site similar to US news sites.

https://www.news.com.au/more-information

https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/rising-star-72-filipino-basketballer-kai-sotto-has-signed-a-multimillion-dollar-deal-with-adelaide-36ers/video/468c1a7d65794b635f29970f7f4bce02

https://web.facebook.com/news.com.au?_rdc=1&_rdr

Caption of the video was Rising Star: 7'2 , Filipino basketballer Kai Sotto has signed a multi-million dollar deal with Adelaide 36ers
Rising Star: 7'2 , Filipino basketballer Kai Sotto has signed a multi-million dollar deal with Adelaide 36ers
Kai Sotto has signed a multi-year deal to play for the Adelaide 36ers in the Australian National Basketball League. The 18 year-old, who is 7'2 (218cm) will join the team from the 2021-22 season.

Nothing really in that press release contradicts the value of the contract being multi million dollars , side arrangements as a result of the signing can potentially be multi million $

[DAdmiral]

I dont think SBP pays for that contract because they cant just demand on the availability of Kai and they somehow would negotiate to EWP and 36ers for them to release him.

Also, how much was the contract for that Li?

of course not the SBP itself , or people working on behalf of the SBP function.
Ganito lang ka simple.

https://www.facebook.com/teamNZBasketball/photos/a.1557230954394956/3892443547540340/

Tuffin has a standard contract with his team, but as a result of the significant viewership brought by the Philippine patronage following, this game was streamed,. look who the sponsor is ( Smart). oh i arranged both "standard contract and broadcast revenue - income.. i should know how it works.. and about Kai and the ANBL , I do to...
just connect the dots na lang..

[PeeZones]

Nothing really in that press release contradicts the value of the contract being multi million dollars , side arrangements as a result of the signing can potentially be multi million $

I havent read of a press release about a player's contract in the pba or nba that would include side arrangements. Even in the pba that is really done in secret and would be prohibited in the NBL. The only logical additions would be bonuses or incentives that is acquired if players hit performance based goals.

Sbp is too unrelated to adelaide and NBL. kai could sign other deals with smart but that would not appear anywhere in his contract with adelaide.

Unless that is proven, we should assume normalcy in that press release and that contract would only contain kai's salary with adelaide.

[DAdmiral]

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this is not the PBA or NBA, ( in the case of the NBA the exact amount is publicly declared) , this is normal for "For Asian NBL players" . What is not normal is what you're suggesting that a regular player much more a development player is given more than a million dollars annual contract from their regular payroll ( the team salary cap is only 1.5 million) , that is absolutely not normal.

You're basing things on what you know happens in more commonly know leagues (PBA and NBA) , but have no knowledge whatsoever in how things work in the ANBL. Just look at the team salary cap it's puny a fraction compared to other major leagues , for the ANBL to attract notable players it has to leverage of "other " arrangements. ( how can u even comment about the other "practice workarounds" when you're not privy or even familiar with how things work in this different environment (this is not the NBA or PBA)

[DAdmiral]

Some info on speculation of Kai's NBL salary

As an NBL Special Restricted Player (SRP) - meaning a player from China, Philippines, Taiwan, India, South Korea, Singapore and Japan., Sotto’s contract DOES NOT count against the team salary cap.

So when considering Kai Sotto’s international appeal, his designation as a SRP and the pay scale of NBL Marquee Players and imports, it wouldn’t be unfair to speculate the big man is making anywhere between $150k - $300k USD (200k - 400k AUD) for his three-year deal.

Essentially the 36ers would NOT use more than $ 100k annually of their own payroll (not from other funding) for Kai.

source : https://www.josecolorado.com/blog/Au...tball-salaries

[tomcat]

Victor Wembanyama for me is the second coming of Dikembe Mutombo with a better offensive game.

He’s just 17 and not surprisingly stick-thin. Clearly he doesn’t know how to use his body as well as he will in a few years.

But like most kids today, he can play all over the court. He can shoot outside, drive and defend. And if you’re going to go with position less basketball, or something close to it, better to to it with bigger guys than little.

[DAdmiral]

How do you argue that Kai can only receive this much because the teams sa/lary cap is only 1.5M if his salary won't count against the salary cap.

1st of all this is the "authors" speculation, but you can see his logic, while his salary does not count towards the salary cap, (so does the marquee players , soft cap) , the franchise still does have to manage "spend" beyond the salary cap. And prioritize spend on Marquee players ( includes imports) , and if the marquee players are on avg getting around USD $ 100 K / yr , then yes as the writer suggest" it wouldn’t be unfair to speculate the Kai is making " something similar. Note : $ 100k is just a fraction 5 % of $ 2 M as some are suggesting, which would really be unprecedented

[DAdmiral]

Add to those your own speculation. What's factual here is that kai's salary would not be counted against the 1.5M. You know, maybe Kai is really worth what the press release said. Maybe he's worth more than most kiwis right now. Unless you can prove the news wrong.

Well the writer is part of the press, and a knowledgeable one at that , no notable NBL press is even arguing he is getting $ 1 m from Adelaide ( not external) , so there is noting to prove wrong or definitive statement released to prove wrong.
Marquee and bench players are both Kiwis and Australians locals in the NBL there is no one arguing what they are getting. If Kai is getting similar or more than marquee players then so be it. The writer is actually suggesting it is fair to speculate he is getting something similar ( which BTW is not in the Millions )

there is no press release that confirms Adelaide is paying him $ 2 M annually from their pocket. At least i haven't seen it, unless your assuming that is what the headline truly means. If that's your interpretation assumption, then you even have a better insight and understanding compared to people who actually are involved in the league.
$ 1 M means he is getting double what Lamelo (next star program) is getting. , and money will come from 36ers pockets not shouldered funded by the NBL . If that's your read , they yeah that is a historic record for the NBL

[reptilia]

Lamelo and rj got over 1 mill each.

The cap is now $1.64mill and some marquees earn $700k

[DAdmiral]

If people want to believe Kai will get $2 M (plural )annually (higher than Lamelo and marquee players) based on a press release, with no author stated and not repeated in any other publication, then so be it,
I would be elated if Kai gets that record high from Adelaide alone (not external). That would be history. There is nothing for me to regret if this is true , and is but just good news

[DAdmiral]

BTW the 36ers are one of the low budget teams , Sydney and Melbourne and PERTH are the ones who can afford

https://www.hoops.com.au/forum/48684-lemanis-nbl-is-uneven-financial-playing-field/